🇧🇷 Oscar

[Barbara 15,149]

Balance was missing today.

Hopefully he brings the balance next game.

it wasn't only balance and he was the only decent player in the first... what can he do when everyone around him sucks?

He wasn't that good, but the others were much worse...

[Styles 9,790]

it wasn't only balance and he was the only decent player in the first... what can he do when everyone around him sucks?

He wasn't that good, but the others were much worse...

True, everybody was bad today.

When everybody else is on fire Oscar can be the balance guy, but when when everybody is off he will struggle.

[robsblubot 3,595]

He adds balance but the likes of Fabregas and Hazard performing is not down to Oscar. It is down to us not having control in the game. My point is when we are losing in situations like this and Hazard is not playing well Oscar will not step up in the same way others would and that is my biggest concern and why I prefer seeing Willian in the team.

It does not help that he was not impressive. I have said and others for a long while that we probably are better of in a 4-3-3. Like I said he improved second half, in dictating play, linking play and spraying passes but when we needed a goal and others were not up to their usual standards, I don't think he steps up and that is why he came off imo. Willian is much more direct.

Fair enough, but that was not the point I made.

Oscar did have a poor showing and did not step up. Though I find it funny that Hazard gets no criticism and he's been consistently one of the poorest performers this season.

[killer1257 3,282]

it wasn't only balance and he was the only decent player in the first... what can he do when everyone around him sucks?

He wasn't that good, but the others were much worse...

We all know that Cesc is not famous for winning tackles and Oscar can win tackles,but he is not consistent with his game.Against Arsenal,he jumped in every duel and he did not win every duel,but almost everyone.One week later,he does not win any of them.Sometimes I think,that he does not win his tackles against the more physical sides,while playing against a more technical team,he shines.

Furthermore,we know that if Cesc,nor Oscar win tackles,Matic will not win his tackles either,because he can´t be the one who will win every tackle that Oscar and Cesc lost before.

Ok,sometimes Matic has his superman performances,but that can´t be the case all the time.

I like how you defend him,but his performance was not good.I expect from him much better pressing and this time he did not deliver.

Ramires did much better and our play improved immediately after Rami came.

[Barbara 15,149]

True, everybody was bad today.

When everybody else is on fire Oscar can be the balance guy, but when when everybody is off he will struggle.

because it's impossible to save a whole team by yourself. He was tackling, pressing and doing everything he could in the first, he tried the through ball many times - some successful others no, but he was trying. His limited dribbling skills showed, but what other players did with those balls he offered and from the tackles he recovered the ball? He came deep to give more options and space for Fabregas and Hazard, but what have they done with it? Bullocks.

I still think we play better with him than without him - given the current players we have - but today was simply impossible to help that team.

I've never seen such a heartless and toothless presentation from so many players at once.

[Stats 7,142]

Fair enough, but that was not the point I made.

Oscar did have a poor showing and did not step up. Though I find it funny that Hazard gets no criticism and he's been consistently one of the poorest performers this season.

One thing I give to Hazard despite our poor he has been is that he still comes up with that little bit of magic. Done excellently for Ramires goal and you just need him on the pitch tbh. But I don't think he has been as awful as people make. Just not been at the same standards as last season. Swansea poor first half. Second half he was a one man show and was very good imo. WBA, when we went down to 10, he was actually one of the key reasons we won. Constantly drawing fouls and using his excellent balance to keep hold off the ball. City poor but could not really do anything when our CM were dominated. Palace did not standout. Arsenal was very good, so mixed and match.

I desperately want him to score. Arsenal fans are obviously going to have a wankfest over Sanchez scoring his hattrick now.

[Tomo 21,751]

True, everybody was bad today.

When everybody else is on fire Oscar can be the balance guy, but when when everybody is off he will struggle.

That's true, its not always a bad thing, We can't expect everyone to be team carriers, some player just play their best when the tteam is on song, Malouda and Sterling two other examples.

[Styles 9,790]

because it's impossible to save a whole team by yourself. He was tackling, pressing and doing everything he could in the first, he tried the through ball many times - some successful others no, but he was trying. His limited dribbling skills showed, but what other players did with those balls he offered and from the tackles he recovered the ball? He came deep to give more options and space for Fabregas and Hazard, but what have they done with it? Bullocks.

I still think we play better with him than without him - given the current players we have - but today was simply impossible to help that team.

I've never seen such a heartless and toothless presentation from so many players at once.

That's true, its not always a bad thing, We can't expect everyone to be team carriers, some player just play their best when the tteam is on song, Malouda and Sterling two other examples.

OK, here's a question.

If we play bad as team regularly will a player like Oscar ever play well consistently?

Guys like Oscar are supposedly good players in well-drilled teams that have good players around them performing well.

We play shit football 90% of the time. How useful is Oscar in this set up?

[Tomo 21,751]

Probably not because like I said some players basically follow the form their team is in like say Oscar and Sterling.

But when we are on song, Oscar is a key part for the team flowing and clicking, like the West Brom first half last season for example, every thing went through him.

OK, here's a question.

If we play bad as team regularly will a player like Oscar ever play well consistently?

Guys like Oscar are supposedly good players in well-drilled teams that have good players around them performing well.

We play shit football 90% of the time. How useful is Oscar in this set up?

[robsblubot 3,595]

One thing I give to Hazard despite our poor he has been is that he still comes up with that little bit of magic. Done excellently for Ramires goal and you just need him on the pitch tbh. But I don't think he has been as awful as people make. Just not been at the same standards as last season. Swansea poor first half. Second half he was a one man show and was very good imo. WBA, when we went down to 10, he was actually one of the key reasons we won. Constantly drawing fouls and using his excellent balance to keep hold off the ball. City poor but could not really do anything when our CM were dominated. Palace did not standout. Arsenal was very good, so mixed and match.

I desperately want him to score. Arsenal fans are obviously going to have a wankfest over Sanchez scoring his hattrick now.

because you only (want to) see his attacking contribution. I also want to see him on the pitch because he can create, but he hasn't been creating enough and he is part of the defensive problem we have - all players are.

What I see is that all progress Hazard had made concerning his (sometimes lacking) defensive game seems to have gone down the drain this season. It's a matter of time until Jose starts criticizing him again for being lazy on the pitch and I'd have to agree with Jose on this one.

Teams cannot have prima donnas anymore and every player needs to work hard. Hazard should be enjoying even less freedom this season because of pedro. That's IMO one of the reasons for the imbalance we see today.

[Stats 7,142]

He definitely should have played tonight. Him playing would have meant we would not have lost. When Oscar plays, Chelsea don't lose. Would have brought great balance tonight and ensured we would not have lost the game. Oscar plays against Southampton we win. He does not play, we draw or lose. That simple.

[DYC. 7,542]

He definitely should have played tonight. Him playing would have meant we would not have lost. When Oscar plays, Chelsea don't lose. Would have brought great balance tonight and ensured we would not have lost the game. Oscar plays against Southampton we win. He does not play, we draw or lose. That simple.

Now you understand. Once his essence touches the pitch, Chelsea are about 80% less likely to lose.

If he doesn't play against Southampton, Chelsea will not win. Quote me on it.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

He definitely should have played tonight. Him playing would have meant we would not have lost. When Oscar plays, Chelsea don't lose. Would have brought great balance tonight and ensured we would not have lost the game. Oscar plays against Southampton we win. He does not play, we draw or lose. That simple.

I know you're on a wind up but had he played in place of Cesc I honestly think half of their play would not have happened.

And we probably would have squeezed a 1-0 out of it.

[didierforever 7,349]

I know you're on a wind up but had he played in place of Cesc I honestly think half of their play would not have happened.

And we probably would have squeezed a 1-0 out of it.

i personally dont like oscar, but at the fucking least, he can do the job defensively

cesc is probably the most over-rated player in the history of football for me. i honestly have never been able to understand the hype around a player who

1. cant win headers

2. cant shield the ball

3. loses the ball under the slightest pressure

4. is hopeless defensively.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

i personally dont like oscar, but at the fucking least, he can do the job defensively

cesc is probably the most over-rated player in the history of football for me. i honestly have never been able to understand the hype around a player who

1. cant win headers

2. cant shield the ball

3. loses the ball under the slightest pressure

4. is hopeless defensively.

He got cast in an Arsenal mould. And he is a classic example of a gooner loser. I like the boy but I think unless we get a coach like Klopp he will never excel here.

[didierforever 7,349]

He got cast in an Arsenal mould. And he is a classic example of a gooner loser. I like the boy but I think unless we get a coach like Klopp he will never excel here.

pep could not get him to excel, dont know how klopp will.

cesc is a loser, simple as that. he has got his PL medal, now he does not give a shit about anything. the sooner we get rid of him, the better.

[Stats 7,142]

He definitely should have played tonight. Him playing would have meant we would not have lost. When Oscar plays, Chelsea don't lose. Would have brought great balance tonight and ensured we would not have lost the game. Oscar plays against Southampton we win. He does not play, we draw or lose. That simple.

:wank2:

Seriously, the whole team was bad but another game where he has not done anything. People got a boner because we won a game against 2 shit teams and apparently ir proved how good he makes us and balances the team. Biggest bullshit ever. Not scapegoating him but please just end that hypothesis now. Coutinho over him anyday and to think some people even compare him to KDB. Just don't...

[Shaan 263]

:wank2:

Seriously, the whole team was bad but another game where he has not done anything. People got a boner because we won a game against 2 shit teams and apparently ir proved how good he makes us and balances the team. Biggest bullshit ever. Not scapegoating him but please just end that hypothesis now. Coutinho over him anyday and to think some people even compare him to KDB. Just don't...

totaly starting to agree now..oscar just cant control midfield...

[spyros_cfc 52]

THIS GUY IS MILLIONAIRE BECAUSE OF FOOTBALL!

[couris 232]

Worst #10 i have ever seen. GTFO Jose.