Barbara 15,149 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I don't care that much about it but if you understand crystal clear that he said "Ele não" you are lying in my opinion.Why?Because Parreira in that video said at least 2 times "Ele não". In minute 0:56 "Ele não tem jogado" , and 1:04 "Ele não tava muito confortável". And for you he said crystal clear the same thing in minute 1:09?Are you joking?Dude, if you don't believe us (don't know why we would lie because his pronunciation in Brazilian Portuguese is crystal clear) ask any Brazilian that I'm sure you know and see what they say. It's not that hard to understand why there are so many Portuguese jokes in Brazil when a Portuguese makes a comment like yours. Unless of course you mean we're all lying to all people in the forum. We aren't Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Needs to get his shit together start of next season because his form has been woeful for a bit too long. Way too long. He is better than this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Hope he have a good WC, it doesn't matter if he tired after it as he can rest as long as he likes, we have others to fill in now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I'm sure Oscar deep down knows he needs to be better, he's a clever lad and I think he will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 After all the talk about him prepping for WC towards the seasons's end, you better have a good WC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted May 14, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 14, 2014 As people (not necessarily here) love to make a big deal out of non-stories, I was checking my architect website and Oscar and I happen to share him (the architect). So I came across his house (he lives very near to me when he's in Brazil) and a few things should be noted.His house is named Chelsea. His TV room has a London Bridge panel that takes the entire wall, his TV has a wallpaper (or something like that, too much of a modern and expensive TV for me to know what exactly is that) that is him wearing a Chelsea shirt, not a Brazil NT jersey. So I think he's going to retire at Chelsea 12 years from now because he clearly loves this club.See? I can do a non-story become something I want and have an agenda and an angle about it. It just depends on who is telling the story I guess and they can twist the way they want. Muzchap, TacticalBlues, DJames and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 If I could remember it right, didn't Oscar said something in his last interview that he is, looking to stay for many years just like Lampard or JT? Just wait and see how he plays in Brazil with his style, and people will forget whatever he said in the past, and crying for him to be our no. 10 next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 If I could remember it right, didn't Oscar said something in his last interview that he is, looking to stay for many years just like Lampard or JT? Just wait and see how he plays in Brazil with his style, and people will forget whatever he said in the past, and crying for him to be our no. 10 next season.We need a few players stay for years. Hazard, Matic, Azpi, etc. Hopefully Oscar joins that list. Dude is sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 As people (not necessarily here) love to make a big deal out of non-stories, I was checking my architect website and Oscar and I happen to share him (the architect). So I came across his house (he lives very near to me when he's in Brazil) and a few things should be noted.His house is named Chelsea. His TV room has a London Bridge panel that takes the entire wall, his TV has a wallpaper (or something like that, too much of a modern and expensive TV for me to know what exactly is that) that is him wearing a Chelsea shirt, not a Brazil NT jersey. So I think he's going to retire at Chelsea 12 years from now because he clearly loves this club.See? I can do a non-story become something I want and have an agenda and an angle about it. It just depends on who is telling the story I guess and they can twist the way they want.I'm going to make this go viral Oscar loves the Chels TacticalBlues and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Regarding Parreira: I think the european portuguese speakers are not used to "num", which is how brazilians will sometimes pronounce "não" when they're speaking really fast as Parreira was. He said "ele 'num' tava reclamando". It's crystal clear to us because we're used to it, but if you think about it, he says it really fast, maybe it's not as easy for non-brazilians. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Fuck Parrerria or whatever the hell his name is, and his big ass mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 In my opinion he said clearly: "So he was complaining / "então ele 'tava' reclamando"Ele está bem fisicamente. ELe não tem jogado... problema mais do Mourinho do que dele.Querer jogar ele quer, e ele gosta de jogar e ele não estava confortável com essa situação. Conversamos e ele até se abriu um pouco... ENTÂO 'tava' reclamando porque o treinador lá faz muitas mudanças, tira mete...By the way it doesn't make many sense for him to say "he wasn't complaining because the coach make a lot of changes".And in the first question, he lost himself a little bit, but it makes sense for him to talk about the past because the question was: "Do you think that TODAY Oscar is the only pure CAM in Brazil?". Maybe he drinks too much,,, but here he has to say that football changed and Brazil can't expect to have players like they had in the past. This is also because he sees (and everyone can see that) that this team in tearms of quality is really far from beeing as good as many others that Brazil had in historyActually it kinda makes sense that he wasn't complaining precisely because the coach was making a lot of changes. Oscar understands now that this is the way it works in Europe, especially at top teams playing in a lot of different competitions as we did, there is just way more squad rotations than in Brazil. In general, the starting eleven in brazilian clubs is a lot more fixed than the typical top european team, especially for a player like him, who was used to being pushed into every single game because he's always been regarded as a special player in every club he played for. What he meant is despite being uncomfortable with this kind of situation, he understands why it is so, thus he hasn't been complaining. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I'm curious.. I tend to agree with Rom, as I did last night.In fact I wanted to translate it (not as good as you and Barbara of course) but he was faster.I also have a friend who is learning Portugese and he told me that translation is 'he was complaining'.So, can you tell me how is said in Portugese - by using the same words (expressions) -He was complainingHe wasn't complainingIn words, I'll figure out pronunciation.He was complaining - Ele estava reclamando (formal) / Ele 'tava' reclamando (informal) / Ele reclamava (this could also be used, very very subtle difference in meaning though).He wasn't complaining - Ele não estava reclamando (formal) / Ele 'num' 'tava' reclamando (informal) / Ele não reclamava (Same as above). laura90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Regarding Parreira: I think the european portuguese speakers are not used to "num", which is how brazilians will sometimes pronounce "não" when they're speaking really fast as Parreira was. He said "ele 'num' tava reclamando". It's crystal clear to us because we're used to it, but if you think about it, he says it really fast, maybe it's not as easy for non-brazilians.Yes, but if he is not sure about what Parreira really said because he is Portuguese and not Brazilian, he definitely shouldn't have called Barbara and I flat out liars! Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Yes, but if he is not sure about what Parreira really said because he is Portuguese and not Brazilian, he definitely shouldn't have called Barbara and I flat out liars! Yeah, maybe. But still an understandable mistake. I could see myself in his shoes translating something from a portuguese player slightly wrong due to minor differences in speech that I wasn't aware of. As a native speaker you would never imagine yourself not being able to translate at least an overall idea of what's being said accurately, even if you consider you're listening to a variant of your native language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 He was complaining - Ele estava reclamando (formal) / Ele 'tava' reclamando (informal)He wasn't complaining - Ele não estava reclamando (formal) / Ele 'num' 'tava' reclamando (informal)I think that you can be right. I'm not 100% convinced yet but...He speaks fast , in low tone and maybe the word is "não", but he pronounced it as "num". Scolari also does that for example and many other brazilians, but it's easiest to understand when you speak slowly.I think it was to Alex that I said he was lying, I'm sorry for that, I just did it because for me it's far from crystal clear that the word he said was "não", "num", or even "então" that was my first interpretation. EDIT: I didn't said Barbara was a liar, I said you Alex were, because that's not the right way to pronounce the word "não" in portuguese from Portugal, Brazil or other country, and he speaks in such a low tone and so fast that at least for me that's not crystal clear. But ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Apparently removed "Chelsea FC" from his twitter bio. Probably off too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Apparently removed "Chelsea FC" from his twitter bio. Probably off too.LOL no .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Silly crap going around that Oscar will follow Luiz to psg, all because people think he took Chelsea fc out his twitter bio, im pretty sure it was never in there lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Silly crap going around that Oscar will follow Luiz to psg, all because people think he took Chelsea fc out his twitter bio, im pretty sure it was never in there lol 40-50m too and it is fine, we go for Reus or Gritzemann. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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