Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Scores a hat-trick , takes off his shirt to reveal the words , "Fuck off TC " while doing a back flip.Hasn't scored or assisted since the 17th of january but sure a hattrick... stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Scores a hat-trick , takes off his shirt to reveal the words , "Fuck off TC " while doing a back flip.And that exactly describes Oscar's career at Chelsea. Play one "good" match and goes on vacation for 2-3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Hasn't scored or assisted since the 17th of january but sure a hattrick... Funnily enough, he could/should have scored a hat-trick on that day but it was taken away from him. He probably has been sulking since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Scores a hat-trick , takes off his shirt to reveal the words , "Fuck off TC " while doing a back flip.I would be elated with an oscar hattrick.Infact a hattrick in each match till tje end of the season. Would increase his price tag before he is kicked out stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Is not it ironic that somepne with the name "suckmydickpsg" calls others "haters" iseah100, Fernando and stroey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Hasn't scored or assisted since the 17th of january but sure a hattrick... Has 3x more goals than our man of the match Willian... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Is not it ironic that somepne with the name "suckmydickpsg" calls others "haters"Judging by the fact you actually took some time to attack me i guess you felt yourself a hater and wanted to hit back.Well let me give you a simple answer for your remark. I never said im not a hater but im not a hater of my own team, also i don't hate any but any of our players, unlike some of you. Im confident you figured this by yourself and only went to respond because you felt attacked with what i wrote in my preview post. For a Legend member such as yourself one would think you can actually give a persuasive and elaborated post instead of throwing one sentence of nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I would be elated with an oscar hattrick.Infact a hattrick in each match till tje end of the season. Would increase his price tag before he is kicked out And that exactly describes Oscar's career at Chelsea. Play one "good" match and goes on vacation for 2-3 months. Hasn't scored or assisted since the 17th of january but sure a hattrick... It was a joke guys. blimey, this place is too grouchy for a team that must be running away with the title. RoyalBlues, DYC. and CFC888 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Judging by the fact you actually took some time to attack me i guess you felt yourself a hater and wanted to hit back.Well let me give you a simple answer for your remark. I never said im not a hater but im not a hater of my own team, also i don't hate any but any of our players, unlike some of you. Im confident you figured this by yourself and only went to respond because you felt attacked with what i wrote in my preview post. For a Legend member such as yourself one would think you can actually give a persuasive and elaborated post instead of throwing one sentence of nothing.I would have if I had thought it to be worthwhile. But considering that you think wr are all "haters" I don't see the point of arguing with someone who is So great and morally right. I mean, woe dude, you should get a noble prize for your morality.As fpr arguing and actually saying what I think of oscar, I have already do ne that. I can't waste any more of my time on a player who puts half arsed performances for the club. Considering the fact that he finds it hard to play a 5 yard simple pass and suddenly puts in a wonderful performance for brazil, its all pretty evident. And then come the people who think, ita jose fault for restricting his role and hence his poor performances. Well if he is not a good fit for our system, and the fact that we have 2 players who are better for that same position, then I think its pretty obvious to sell him and buy a worldie player like pogba/koke. And then comes the fact that our loyal and morally awesome fans think that it is blasphemy to state the obvious truth. But some of us think that for the betterment of the team, its important that we get ourselves rid of players like oscar before he goes down the torres/mikel road. Some of us would want to act on what is evident rather than suffer woth his averageness for the next 4/5 years and be ruined in the long term.Elaborate and persuasive enouhh for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted April 11, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 11, 2015 Judging by the fact you actually took some time to attack me i guess you felt yourself a hater and wanted to hit back.Well let me give you a simple answer for your remark. I never said im not a hater but im not a hater of my own team, also i don't hate any but any of our players, unlike some of you. Im confident you figured this by yourself and only went to respond because you felt attacked with what i wrote in my preview post. For a Legend member such as yourself one would think you can actually give a persuasive and elaborated post instead of throwing one sentence of nothing.Has 3x more goals than our man of the match Willian... You say you don't hate any of our players mate, but you are in an Oscar thread, a player who was dragged off(not for the first time) at the half our last match, trying to slyly slag off a player who was a HUGE reason we won that match. It comes off like deflection and almost vendetta-like.The amount of goals Oscar has scored has fuck all to do with Willian putting in a hero performance last match. didierforever, stroey, Reddish-Blue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 How is Ross barkely doing these days? Says the wise men .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Has 3x more goals than our man of the match Willian... seems likes someone is hating on one of our players. That too on a different player thread without any reference to the other player. Hmmm... oh welll stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Dunga Advises Juventus to Buy Oscar From Chelsea This Summer http://www.90min.com/posts/2049401-dunga-advises-juventus-to-buy-oscar-from-chelsea-this-summer?utm_source=fotmob&utm_medium=share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Dunga Advises Juventus to Buy Oscar From Chelsea This Summerhttp://www.90min.com/posts/2049401-dunga-advises-juventus-to-buy-oscar-from-chelsea-this-summer?utm_source=fotmob&utm_medium=shareI'm not...totally against this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 You say you don't hate any of our players mate, but you are in an Oscar thread, a player who was dragged off(not for the first time) at the half our last match, trying to slyly slag off a player who was a HUGE reason we won that match. It comes off like deflection and almost vendetta-like.The amount of goals Oscar has scored has fuck all to do with Willian putting in a hero performance last match.Judging by the emoji i used that the end one would actually understand it wasn't to be taken seriously. I genuinely believe some aren't even 18 when giving a proper reply.My definition of hate is when you deliberately insult a player even if he is indeed poor, rubbing him on all side or using false arguments deliberately just to put him down more. seems likes someone is hating on one of our players. That too on a different player thread without any reference to the other player.Hmmm... oh welll Im not hating Willian it was just a reply for that guy who seems to think the Goals and Assists are the most important. Learn to respect a player before actually trying to give me a reply about hating. Atleast i don't bash and insult the players of the team i support. Also you do seem to have sharp tongue when someone is defending him juding from your posts. I don't even like Oscar more than Cahill or Ramires but the hate he accumulates makes me support him more due to people such as yourself. There is no problem giving your opinion about a player thats why this forum is for, but atleast talk polite without attacking a certain player and insulting him like the last man on earth.Oscar is very poor at the moment, it's frustrating to watch him in the last period not only because of his on field perfomances but also because i don't understand how he dropped his form in middle season yet again but yet i won't go as down as to insult him in such a bad manner like you did a few days ago. I might get angry sometimes with certain players but i try to temperate myself when writting because at the end of the day its a football match, he didn't killed anyone and doesn't even have antecedents or bad behaviours. You would probably explode is he was Balotelli.Another and final point to end this discussion i dont even understood why you need to reply to me. I didn't used any names for those called "haters" some actually take the time to write a post in a constructive way that it makes it very enjoyable to read even if its negative or positive about Oscar.The fact you try to attack me with useless facts only proves what i said is indeed true and you do actually feel yourself like a hater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 11, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 11, 2015 Mikel comparison? I never saw Mikel as someone with world class potential like i did with Sturridge and i do with Oscar, or did he get misteaken for our best player. I always saw Mikel as solid, and defended him many times because most of the time because i thoght he was our best option in the team before Matic arrival. So i can't sayThe comparisions with Mikel and Torres are bloody ridiculous which only proves how much you know about football.Mikel and Oscar do compare quite a bit... Contrary to what you're saying, any one that knows anything about football would know they have actually had a similar pattern in their development. (Not a dig at you Joker, more so at SMDPSG). I'll detail how they do below.Mikel was once considered a world class talent, believe it or not. He led his Nigeria to the finals of the U20 World Cup in 2005 where they lost to Argentina. He finished behind only a certain Lionel Messi in the Golden Ball award. He was seen as a huge talent from then onwards. Oscar is another player that shone massively in the U20 World Cup, hence why he was so heralded - he did after all score a hat trick in the 2011 final in which Brazil won. Both were considered massive talents at a very young age.Don't forget that Mikel scrapped a massive, controversial transfer saga between us and Manchester United. Surely, if he wasn't considered such a huge talent at the time he wouldn't have caused the above. I'm pretty sure you are well aware of the details of Mikel's transfer to us. Huge things were expected from him, he was seen as a potential world class midfielder. Oscar similarly had a lot of clubs after him after his showings in the 2011 U20 World Cup.Both came at the club as massive talents and were seen as players that had the potential to be world class midfielders. As we all know, Mikel did not develop as well as we wanted to - various reasons for that i.e. him having his position changed from originally being a number 10 to a number 6-like anchor man, him not developing into a star at all etc... While IMO Mikel is not a bad player, he certainly isn't good enough to be a starter for us. Very solid squad player IMO though. I can easily see the same happening to Oscar. It's scary how his best game IMO for us was his Champions League debut three seasons ago. He hasn't developed as well as he should have despite having an ample amount of game time (just like Mikel) and he definitely hasn't shown enough over the last three seasons that he is good enough to be a nailed on starter in his position and one of the best in his position in the world either. I used to be a massive Oscar supporter, until after a few months ago, you can check my posts. I have run out of patience with him though. If you believe that Oscar still has the potential to be one of the best number 10s in the world then fair enough but I've seen that that ship has sailed a long time ago. I didn't want to bring Eden into it but one thing I will always remember is how some said that Oscar will be a better player than Eden. That's how highly he was rated. Now anyone would laugh if you suggested the same.Unfortunately, he just isn't a special player like that. As I've said many times before, he'd be a pretty good squad player and he isn't useless but we can definitely do better. Luckily for us, Oscar has a pretty high market value it seems, so I definitely wouldn't hesitate to sell if a nice offer came in. didierforever, Stingray, hjperdeath and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I just read a post on WAGNH, and it's changed my perspective on him again. The fact he is constantly covering for Fabregas' defensive deficiencies when out of possession means that his end product is lost. Of course, at the moment he is in aa bad run of form, coincidentally while Willian is currently in a good run. Willian's pace means he can make up for these things, while Oscar...is not so quick. Which is fine. At previous clubs he's always had good visions for passes etc. Which leaves various possibilities open for his Chelsea career to further or terminate:A:We continue to move towards the Barcelona model of possession based football. This includes the possibilities of being left open to getting bullied off the ball by strength; ironically a common fixture in our historical midfields. This would include utilising a quick back 4; Azpi-Zouma-Terry/Varane/Stones-Luis will be the final solution for the next 2 or 3 seasons, Matic playing Busquets. Iniesta being Oscar in a new CM role for him, and him getting stronger too, which gives the luxury of time to pass that is afforded to Fabregas. Similarly he can use his vision to be "Xavi" in Fabregas' absence for whatever reason. This seems to me to be the direction we are beginning to move to as a team.B:The next option is that we bring in a more defensively competent midfielder. Such as RLC, Koke, the list goes on, with Oscar being able to be the true number 10 he is for Brazil and his old club and he is the one who provides the incisive passes.C:We lobby the Premier League to clamp down on physicality, with the Spanish league the model for this. I don't want this, not at all, as I am not a fan of the league. But nonethless it is still an option.D:We sell or loan Oscar and use Willian, who is arguably more equipped for the job we ask of him (if we wish to play the same as we do now) in the number 10 and use Cuadrado and soon our academy grads on the RW.E:We do as above on D but rather than selling Oscar, we simply just invert Willian's and Oscar's positions with Willian in the 10 and Oscar on the RW.But I'm almost certain he will not be sold. Apparently coaching staff regard him as one of the best talents we have, alonside Hazard. RoyalBlues and CFC888 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Mikel and Oscar do compare quite a bit... Contrary to what you're saying, any one that knows anything about football would know they have actually had a similar pattern in their development. (Not a dig at you Joker, more so at SMDPSG). I'll detail how they do below.Mikel was once considered a world class talent, believe it or not. He led his Nigeria to the finals of the U20 World Cup in 2005 where they lost to Argentina. He finished behind only a certain Lionel Messi in the Golden Ball award. He was seen as a huge talent from then onwards. Oscar is another player that shone massively in the U20 World Cup, hence why he was so heralded - he did after all score a hat trick in the 2011 final in which Brazil won. Both were considered massive talents at a very young age.Don't forget that Mikel scrapped a massive, controversial transfer saga between us and Manchester United. Surely, if he wasn't considered such a huge talent at the time he wouldn't have caused the above. I'm pretty sure you are well aware of the details of Mikel's transfer to us. Huge things were expected from him, he was seen as a potential world class midfielder. Oscar similarly had a lot of clubs after him after his showings in the 2011 U20 World Cup.Both came at the club as massive talents and were seen as players that had the potential to be world class midfielders. As we all know, Mikel did not develop as well as we wanted to - various reasons for that i.e. him having his position changed from originally being a number 10 to a number 6-like anchor man, him not developing into a star at all etc... While IMO Mikel is not a bad player, he certainly isn't good enough to be a starter for us. Very solid squad player IMO though. I can easily see the same happening to Oscar. It's scary how his best game IMO for us was his Champions League debut three seasons ago. He hasn't developed as well as he should have despite having an ample amount of game time (just like Mikel) and he definitely hasn't shown enough over the last three seasons that he is good enough to be a nailed on starter in his position and one of the best in his position in the world either. I used to be a massive Oscar supporter, until after a few months ago, you can check my posts. I have run out of patience with him though. If you believe that Oscar still has the potential to be one of the best number 10s in the world then fair enough but I've seen that that ship has sailed a long time ago. I didn't want to bring Eden into it but one thing I will always remember is how some said that Oscar will be a better player than Eden. That's how highly he was rated. Now anyone would laugh if you suggested the same.Unfortunately, he just isn't a special player like that. As I've said many times before, he'd be a pretty good squad player and he isn't useless but we can definitely do better. Luckily for us, Oscar has a pretty high market value it seems, so I definitely wouldn't hesitate to sell if a nice offer came in. Ah Skip .... Always a joy to read your posts. #notjokingasusual #boss #skipper Blue Colored Sky, mediator, iseah100 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Judging by the emoji i used that the end one would actually understand it wasn't to be taken seriously. I genuinely believe some aren't even 18 when giving a proper reply.My definition of hate is when you deliberately insult a player even if he is indeed poor, rubbing him on all side or using false arguments deliberately just to put him down more.Im not hating Willian it was just a reply for that guy who seems to think the Goals and Assists are the most important. Learn to respect a player before actually trying to give me a reply about hating. Atleast i don't bash and insult the players of the team i support. Also you do seem to have sharp tongue when someone is defending him juding from your posts. I don't even like Oscar more than Cahill or Ramires but the hate he accumulates makes me support him more due to people such as yourself. There is no problem giving your opinion about a player thats why this forum is for, but atleast talk polite without attacking a certain player and insulting him like the last man on earth.Oscar is very poor at the moment, it's frustrating to watch him in the last period not only because of his on field perfomances but also because i don't understand how he dropped his form in middle season yet again but yet i won't go as down as to insult him in such a bad manner like you did a few days ago. I might get angry sometimes with certain players but i try to temperate myself when writting because at the end of the day its a football match, he didn't killed anyone and doesn't even have antecedents or bad behaviours. You would probably explode is he was Balotelli.Another and final point to end this discussion i dont even understood why you need to reply to me. I didn't used any names for those called "haters" some actually take the time to write a post in a constructive way that it makes it very enjoyable to read even if its negative or positive about Oscar.The fact you try to attack me with useless facts only proves what i said is indeed true and you do actually feel yourself like a hater.So stating the FACT that oscar has not scored/assisted sonce jan is now "hating" on him???!!!! What school of thought do u follow my friend??!!!And again, a lot of moral drivel that I barely skime d thru. Could not even get myself to really give it a read. But it just clicked me that u have do convinient ignored all that I had actually written about oscar. Well, not surprising to be honest. As for attacking, well like u said, this is a forum. I expressed my opinion and indtead of expressing yours, u tried to put down others as haters while claiming the moral high ground. Yet, your name (basic sense should prevail) and the fact that u tried to bring willian into the equation when someone replied to another poster that oscar had not scored/assisted since jan and thus is unlikely to score a hattrick, is well another evidence of your massive hypocrisy. As for oscar, I will start respecting him, when he starts respexting the club. Here is a little thing about "RESPECT". It needs to be EARNED. Just being wearing a chelsea does not mean that we have to respect him. Wheb I see that he is putting his 100% even if it is like the likes of GC, rambo or iva etc etc even if its not the world class performance but the fact that a player puts his 100% for the shirt and badge, then I will start "respecting" a player. Like I said, respect needs to be earned, itit's not a findamental right. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Let's hope he could do the best for the rest of minutes he would get on the remaining games. No used to hate him. I will support any player wearing a Chelsea shirt. CFC888 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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