Thorgan Hazard

[The Skipper 20,609]

I would say that he hasnt even begun

Exactly.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Apparently 17 goals at West Brom at age 19 including a second half hat trick at Old Trafford and 9 goals in less than half a season at Everton at age 20 is insufficent progress. Couple that with the blinding strike force of Eto, Torres and BA I'd say yes Lukaku has failed at Chelsea

So far, he failed at CHELSEA. I'm a huge fan of Lukaku. But he lost an entire year playing in the reserve squad after being top scorer in the Belgian league for two years and already being an important international. He has yet to get his first real chance in the senior squad. He's had two good years on loan, but next year his future will once again be uncertain.

I'm just saying the next generation is looking at this as well, and might take smaller steps before they sign a contract at an absolute top team.

I'm actually really against this international trend of just buying every big talent around and then not even playing half of them. It slows down the players, it sucks the smaller leagues dry and more important for you guys, it stunts the development of your own youngsters. When was the last time a talented English player came out of your youth teams and became a regular in your first squad?

Terry, if I'm right. Well, he'll soon be 34 years old.

[The Skipper 20,609]

He has yet to get his first real chance in the senior squad.

Exactly, you're saying it yourself... So how has he failed when he hasn't even been given a chance?

Failure is someone like Torres.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Exactly, you're saying it yourself... So how has he failed when he hasn't even been given a chance?

Failure is someone like Torres.

Now you're just talking about semantics.

My point is that he wouldn't have lost that year, had he signed for a slightly smaller team. Of course, you can't know that beforehand, I thought he would work himself in the team during his first year too. But as I said, maybe the next generation will take that extra step before they go from a Belgian or Dutch top team to the top of the Premier League.

[didierforever 7,349]

Now you're just talking about semantics.

My point is that he wouldn't have lost that year, had he signed for a slightly smaller team. Of course, you can't know that beforehand, I thought he would work himself in the team during his first year too. But as I said, maybe the next generation will take that extra step before they go from a Belgian or Dutch top team to the top of the Premier League.

u actually thought might work himself in the team despite having options like DD, anelka, sturridge, torres? those were some high hopes dude.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Drogba was better but ready to leave, Anelka wasn't used as a striker anymore (if I'm remembering it right), Torres sucked harder than he did now and I actually thought he would make a good strike force with Sturridge.

I had hopes for him becoming a replacement for Drogba. Ideally he probably should have taken an extra step and signed for one of the more average teams in England, like Benteke did. But hey, Chelsea is his favorite team, he just wanted to play here.

[Tomo 21,751]

I know it's the Hazard thread but because he is in discussion here im going to give my 2 penny's worth.

This is Lukaku ready or not is a bit off a grey area, is he ready to be a member of the squad and play a fair amount of minutes but get gradually eased into the club? absolutely. Whether Lukaku is ready for Chelsea is not the debate because he is, where the 'is he ready' debate comes in is about being the number 1 forward playing every match and holding the club's expectations on his shoulders? Is he ready for all that (yet)? Im not so sure.

He wanted to go to a club who will give him the number one role in a WC year, although in hindsight looking at Benteke's form he could have played for us and still made it as #1 for Belgium in Brazil.

[zolayes 14,489]

I came to see if there was something new about Thorgan ,, perhaps I should have tried the Lukaku thread ,

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Ah, as far as Thorgan goes: Belgian press are reporting Anderlecht and Chelsea have reached an agreement for a half year loan. Zulte on the other hand says all of this is bullshit. Hazard himself says nothing at all...

[zolayes 14,489]

Ah, as far as Thorgan goes: Belgian press are reporting Anderlecht and Chelsea have reached an agreement for a half year loan. Zulte on the other hand says all of this is bullshit. Hazard himself says nothing at all...

its ok it will be on the club site next month

[Weckerz 3,781]

The Hazard's are Anderlecht fans, I can see Thorgan wanting to join them.

[zolayes 14,489]

The Hazard's are Anderlecht fans, I can see Thorgan wanting to join them.

would it be a bad move ?

[Weckerz 3,781]

would it be a bad move ?

Not at all, not that much of a step up from Zulte but definately a good environment to be in for 6 months. They've got a brilliant trainingcomplex and I'm convinced he'd be a key player for them.

[zolayes 14,489]

Not at all, not that much of a step up from Zulte but definately a good environment to be in for 6 months. They've got a brilliant trainingcomplex and I'm convinced he'd be a key player for them.

Thanks

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

It would be kind of a douchy move towards his current team (title contender), but in the end it will make him a better player. At Zulte, where two crucial players already left this month, he practically has to carry the entire team with his creativity. At Anderlecht he'll find more players of his level or slightly above. Dennis Praet, Massimo Bruno, Anthony Vanden Borre (!! in my eyes), Youri Thielemans, Matthias Suarez, all decent slash good players. There are some older internationals like Demy De Zeeuw in the team too, that don't play a lot but can still be valuable to young players during training.