🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Daniel Sturridge

[nullabletype 987]

That's fair. But I still go back to the fact he's still learning his position and letting go of those centre-forward instincts can't be easy for him, it is like Ronaldo's first season with United where the selfishness was in his game too but as he got older he improved drastically on that. I saw a post that says Daniel should be dropped because of this, I can't agree with this at all because despite this selfishness which could've cost us some easy goals he's still a bigger threat on goal than Torres or Drogba, his over all games proves this as much as anything.

I agree that he will make more of an impression when he starts seeing these passes and playing them. Judgement will only come with maturity and maturity will come with time. I'm sure RDM's seen it, I'm sure Drogba has a word with him too. I see progress since the beginning of the season and I remain positive that we will cut it out of his game because he does have the luxury of time.

I just don't buy in to the idea that these guys grow out of it, I think it's a concious decision. Also, I don't know if a greedy Ronaldo is a fair comparison to a greedy Sturridge. Ronaldo, greedy or not, brings more to the table than Danny, which was his saving grace.

As for being a bigger threat? Well, barely. He had a patch where he was fairly reliable, but he's dropped off...

Goals,

Danny: EPL 9, FA Cup 1, UCL 1. Total 11

Drogba: EPL 5, FA Cup 0, UCL 4. Total 9

Torres: EPL 2, FA Cup 2, UCL 2. Total 6

Torres I'd say is nailed on to have a higher assist rate and Drogba probably isn't far off.

Edit: I don't want to see Danny off the team, I think he should be a starter. But you can't convince me that he couldn't just make the pass if he wanted to, and if he does start to do so, then we're laughing.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I just don't buy in to the idea that these guys grow out of it, I think it's a concious decision. Also, I don't know if a greedy Ronaldo is a fair comparison to a greedy Sturridge. Ronaldo, greedy or not, brings more to the table than Danny, which was his saving grace.

As for being a bigger threat? Well, barely. He had a patch where he was fairly reliable, but he's dropped off...

Goals,

Danny: EPL 9, FA Cup 1, UCL 1. Total 11

Drogba: EPL 5, FA Cup 0, UCL 4. Total 9

Torres: EPL 2, FA Cup 2, UCL 2. Total 6

Torres I'd say is nailed on to have a higher assist rate and Drogba probably isn't far off.

I believe it lays in decision making and being mature enough (as a player) to make that right decision of the judgement on who's in a better position to score. I'm confident that's something he can grow out of, right now he's young, hungry and going for goals as much as he can get. Hell it wasn't so long that we were all praising his selfishness because no-one could even trust Torres in front of an open goal (for the record, I still don't).

And come on. I don't even need to look at goals to know Sturridge is a better player right now than Torres or Drogba. Sturridge is much more direct when going through on goal, he scares the opposition shitless and one-on-one he's more reliable than Torres certainly. Danny's pace is the biggest difference between the 3, his switch of pace is what allows us to have such a great attacking threat when we're in possession we saw that again Newcastle when Mata's balls would set Sturridge off like a bullet.

I know Torres got his brace on the weekend, but afaic, Sturridge is still currently a better player than the Spaniard and Sturridge would always be in my first XI while making that debate between Drogba & Torres. Because for all of Sturridge's negative traits (like that selfish streak) he's still able to be a threat.

[nullabletype 987]

I believe it lays in decision making and being mature enough (as a player) to make that right decision of the judgement on who's in a better position to score. I'm confident that's something he can grow out of, right now he's young, hungry and going for goals as much as he can get. Hell it wasn't so long that we were all praising his selfishness because no-one could even trust Torres in front of an open goal (for the record, I still don't).

And come on. I don't even need to look at goals to know Sturridge is a better player right now than Torres or Drogba. Sturridge is much more direct when going through on goal, he scares the opposition shitless and one-on-one he's more reliable than Torres certainly. Danny's pace is the biggest difference between the 3, his switch of pace is what allows us to have such a great attacking threat when we're in possession we saw that again Newcastle when Mata's balls would set Sturridge off like a bullet.

I know Torres got his brace on the weekend, but afaic, Sturridge is still currently a better player than the Spaniard and Sturridge would always be in my first XI while making that debate between Drogba & Torres. Because for all of Sturridge's negative traits (like that selfish streak) he's still able to be a threat.

Well we agree to disagree then.

[Badboy 1,526]

I'm so confident when he is in a one on one with the fullback. He has a brilliant turn of pace !

[Henrique 9,133]

Selfish and overrated.

I would like to see Torres playing as a right winger in next games, just like Anelka,

[Henrique 9,133]

It seems nobody is being granted the same amount of patience.

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[English Freak 456]

Selfish and overrated.

I would like to see Torres playing as a right winger in next games, just like Anelka,

He's not overrated. He's a good young player. Definitely has the ability to become a solid, goal-scoring CF in the future. Just needs to mature.

Even if he doesn't get the chance to be a CF at Chelsea, i'm sure most of the EPL sides would sign him up and give him the chance at CF.

[capriccioso 2,545]

He's got the potential to be a 20 goal a season player. He's just not cut out to be a winger though, we're playing him out of position.

[bluephoenix 1,131]

I don't know if I should label it as the "Youth" attitude or just go with "Selfish"

the guy is young and wants to get the ball behind the net agreed but RDM certainly has to sort this stuff .. he can't go on his own unless he is 100% sure that the ball will find the back of the net. He should learn from Torres, the guy should be taking a chance at every ball he gets thats how beaten he is being portrayed by the media but still plays a selfless game, barring the fact he is short of confidence... still ...

Sturridge has a great potential and I personally want to see him in blue shirt for a long time to come. He is young wants to prove himself ... we should let it pass for a while and hope that RDM/whoever comes next season grooms him into a better player

[gary gordon 1,777]

I gotta say there are times when he frustrates the fuck out of me! Then he has the nerve to turn around and wave his hands about when nobody passes to him. I think he is causing a bit of unrest up front and i think i spell or two in the reserves is exactly what he needs to bring his ego back down to earth. Sure he is a good player, but at what cost? we should have been up by 5 before the half..

[The Rising Sun 711]

Will never be a team player... wants to be the best in the world..... will always try the tougher option looking for glory that isnt there....

He doesnt help the team....only trying to help himself all the time...

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"oh look at me....i just beat this player with a trick.... now im going to try to beat the next guy too.... ohhhhh drogba/torres/mata in open space!!!.....wait a second, if i can beat these last two players then maybe i can get an angle on goal and score MYSELF.ME.ME.ME."

And you know what happens after that.... he loses the ball and jogs back.

As someone said here before, i too feel this is not just young age or anything, This guy has this trait of selfishness in him. He wants to force himself into the main strikers position so will never do what a conventional winger would do and will always go for goal...... The fact that he cannot accept a certain role that is given to him, and play that role, make chances and score some as well , shows that his greed for the ST position overrules every other aspect of his mentality. Not a team player.

NANI (version 2)..... Never liked Nani.... will never like sturridge....unless he changes his game.....

Nani was supposed to have changed his game since forever.... But he and sturridge are similar players.... Hope sturridge doesnt become Nani2.

[Hysteria 159]

His selfinesh could cost us some points. He needs to learn to take the right decisions, im sure he will (or...hope).

[English Freak 456]

Will never be a team player... wants to be the best in the world.

The fact that he cannot accept a certain role that is given to him, and play that role, make chances and score some as well , shows that his greed for the ST position overrules every other aspect of his mentality. Not a team player.

NANI (version 2)..... Never liked Nani.... will never like sturridge....unless he changes his game.....

How do you know that he'll "never be a team player"? He's only 22, still developing, don't think we'll see the best of Sturridge for another 2-3 seasons.

And anyway, I think we should persist with him, give him the chance at CF. Putting his selfishness to one side; We're gonna need goals to win matches and this kid can score goals.

As for the Nani comparison. I never knew Nani was a CF being told to play as a winger. Always thought he was an average winger.

[capriccioso 2,545]

Nani was quality for about 6 months tbf. Then he fucked it all up when he did his shoulder practicing his backflips.

Anyway Sturridge's ego and selfishness are excellent qualities in a striker. That ego will help him through rough periods and the selfishness should make him prolific. They are not desirable in any other position though, which is why he's got to adapt to being a winger, or we've got to accommodate for him, or he's shown the door. Another thing I've been thinking about is that Jose would never have permitted such behaviour. He'd have been whipped into shape by now, Danny, had someone put their foot down. I remember Villas-Boas shouting at him to track back and getting continually ignored, Jose would never have stood for that.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Anyway Sturridge's ego and selfishness are excellent qualities in a striker. That ego will help him through rough periods and the selfishness should make him prolific. They are not desirable in any other position though, which is why he's got to adapt to being a winger, or we've got to accommodate for him

This is why we have to be patient with him! Can't be easy for him to change his player instincts like that.

[francozola 2,040]

I'm sure Di Matteo had some words with him after Sunday's game. His "selfishness" was more noticeable than usual and some of the other players were clearly frustrated by him - not to mention the fans were as well - so curious to see how he performs in the next few games.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

It's not even as if he's been playing well recently. Add in the fact he's missed some absolute sitters, he's only forgiven because he's young and English. He should be dropped, but as we have no RW (and we still don't when he plays...) he maintains his position in the side. He is exempt from criticism for some reason. People say he's greedy; the responses range from his youthfulness to his confidence to his inexperience. They are not grounds for pardon as far as I am concerned. Danny Welbeck is a far more mature player at a more tender age. He doesn't feel the need to dribble around every player on the pitch and obnoxiously ignore players around him. He pulls off what he is doing once every dozen times, which is even less productive than Torres. You don't notice it when he's scoring, but when he isn't you realise he really is quite average, and will remain so until he matures and offers greater productivity. That being said, he shouldn't be in a state where he must learn to make the right decision, because surely every player knows shooting from some of the angles he attempts just does not work.

[Superblue 6,372]

I agree with both arguments in that he is selfish and must learn to benefit the team, but he is also one of our best young talents at a time when we are in desperate need for fresh youth and pace in the side.

Perhaps we will find out just how greedy a player he really is in the summer, if he attempts to hold the club to ransom over wage demands with a year remaining on his contract. The club, with once again poor planning, should not find themselves in this position, but we cannot let him run his contract down.

If he does not agree a new deal, we have to sell him in the summer for as much as possible and reinvest the money in the squad. If we were forced to sell him in the summer, how much do you think we could demand with a year left on his contract? If Man City come sniffing, I'd like to think we could try and fleece £15-20m out of them, or perhaps £5-10m plus Adam Johnson?

I would rather see him stay and hopefully mature as a player because there is no doubt the raw talent and confidence is there.

[Las7 951]

I wouldn't read too much into this, he seems more selfish because he creates more opportunities for himself to shoot - he is still pretty one footed so he barely tries to cross with his right foot and doesn't seem to trust it very much. So he is reliant on his instincts a lot which lead to unsatisfying results from the right wing. When he is playing in his natural position and he gets goals regularly he won't be as selfish, it's just the lack of goals in the last 3 months that has made him a bit desperate to break his duck. If he continues like this he might warrant a few games watching the game from the bench but I feel he has a bright future leading our front line.

[The Rising Sun 711]

How do you know that he'll "never be a team player"? He's only 22, still developing, don't think we'll see the best of Sturridge for another 2-3 seasons.

And anyway, I think we should persist with him, give him the chance at CF. Putting his selfishness to one side; We're gonna need goals to win matches and this kid can score goals.

As for the Nani comparison. I never knew Nani was a CF being told to play as a winger. Always thought he was an average winger.

Haha he might become a team player at some point.... but by the current behavior and his interviews at times, it doesnt seem so......

And The Nani comparison was solely on the selfish part..... He was selfish as a youngster, and people thought he will learn... then people said once ronaldo leaves he will become mature and become a team player.... now after everything... most manu fans dislike the guy cuz while he has skill and pace... He is selfish and doesnt play for the team.

Sturridge is walking the same path at the moment.... Someone needs to sit him down and have a real chat.

Sturridge and Torres need to sit together....

Sturridge re-configures Torres' shooting foot,

Torres reconfigures Sturridge's Brain.