Rumoured Luke Shaw

[mediator 2,026]

Signing a 28 year old LB for 20 million doesn't make sense...when you can get Shaw for another 8-10 million Ricardo Rodriguez for the same price.

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[addyz 7]

Filipe is better than Shaw.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Signing a 28 year old LB for 20 million doesn't make sense...when you can get Shaw for another 8-10 million.

Possibly, but the other way to look at it is that it's better to spend £20 million on a proven commodity than £30 million (+ an extra £1 million in wages) on an unproven yet still promising option whilst looking to develop your own talent. I'd love for Shaw to come in and be that guy we all hope he can be but it's a big risk and those figures are insane. £100k p/w at 18 makes me wonder what he'll want at 26.

[LAB 1,030]

I don't like Luis rumours either. We might as well pay 30 million for Shaw.

And why exactly are we spamming Atletico signings? It's like how PSG are busting our balls all the time for every good player we have.

[Waterfall 893]

I don't like Luis rumours either. We might as well pay 30 million for Shaw.

And why exactly are we spamming Atletico signings? It's like how PSG are busting our balls all the time for every good player we have.

They've won La Liga over Barca and Real and were only a couple of minutes away form winning the CL. It shouldn't surprise anyone that their players are being targeted.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I dunno. He is good but many atletico players will suffer injuries after such hard season. We will probably race for two titles next year and I dont think he will be fit to play whole season...

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

I dunno. He is good but many atletico players will suffer injuries after such hard season. We will probably race for two titles next year and I dont think he will be fit to play whole season...

[Marvin123 538]

Hoping the Luis rumours are to make Southampton accept our offer. Seemed very Wierd Manu bid went public so easy

[LAB 1,030]

They've won La Liga over Barca and Real and were only a couple of minutes away form winning the CL. It shouldn't surprise anyone that their players are being targeted.

To me it actually is very surprising to go for Luis rather than sign a young talented Shaw or RR (the first one is also HG).

Maybe Jose is going for more experienced players to balance the team. This is good but it's also a short term solution.

[Jase 43,479]

Sources saying we're going to be paying 19 mn for Luis. In what world is doing that better than 30 mn on Shaw while locking down your LB position for 12 or so years?

I could understand if we'd been signing someone like Moreno for half of Shaw's price. Now we'll just be spending another 20 or so 3 years down the line on someone else (unless you believe the club will play Aina or Ake when Luis leaves ... in which case, more power to you).

It's never Chelsea FC if the board doesn't go f*ck up their good work by making some stupid decisions after that.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

It's never Chelsea FC if the board doesn't go f*ck up their good work by making some stupid decisions after that.

This isn't a fucked up decision by the board, it is actually a pretty good one imo. Fucked up is like signing Lavezzi and selling Oscar/Hazard to PSG. Filipe Luis is one of the best LB in Europe atm, even at 29 years old he is pretty good and could play well for 3-4 more years imo. Shaw meanwhile could turn out to be another Andy Carrol for all we know, it is one thing playing for Southampton and another playing for Chelsea. Especially with Southampton likely demanding £30m min and he will want at least £100k per week.

[The only place to be 11,313]

It's never Chelsea FC if the board doesn't go f*ck up their good work by making some stupid decisions after that.

Because buying one of the form left-backs in Europe last season is stupid?

[Jase 43,479]

This isn't a fucked up decision by the board, it is actually a pretty good one imo. Fucked up is like signing Lavezzi and selling Oscar/Hazard to PSG. Filipe Luis is one of the best LB in Europe atm, even at 29 years old he is pretty good and could play well for 3-4 more years imo. Shaw meanwhile could turn out to be another Andy Carrol for all we know, it is one thing playing for Southampton and another playing for Chelsea. Especially with Southampton likely demanding £30m min and he will want at least £100k per week.

I know English players are often 'messed up' but do people really have to associate every English talent to be a total failure or the next Andy Carroll? All you seem to have done so far is leaning on the negative side and think signing Shaw is going to be a failure. And you must be a personal friend of Shaw to know that he WILL want at least 100k wages p/w...

Because buying one of the form left-backs in Europe last season is stupid?

You must be kidding yourself if you think I was referring to that point about Felipe Luis.

[Term-X 7,891]

Because buying one of the form left-backs in Europe last season is stupid?

The same could be said for Luke Shaw.

[Term-X 7,891]

We really need to stop with the 'prospect/future' talk, Shaw was the best left back in PL last season. He's the 'present'.. it just so happens he also has a 12+ year lifespan, £40m would be a bargain. As stated though, it's the wages which may cause problems.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

We really need to stop with the 'prospect/future' talk, Shaw was the best left back in PL last season. He's the 'present'.. it just so happens he also has a 12+ year lifespan, £40m would be a bargain. As stated though, it's the wages which may cause problems.

Just like Kyle Walker at the end of 11-12 season?

[The only place to be 11,313]

The same could be said for Luke Shaw.

Shaw's a good young player who will hopefully have a good future. Luis is better at the moment though.

You must be kidding yourself if you think I was referring to that point about Felipe Luis.

You might want to try saying what you mean then because otherwise it just seems like you're one of those people who moans about 'the board' for the sake of it.

You talk as if our board has a bad recent record which they really don't.

We really need to stop with the 'prospect/future' talk, Shaw was the best left back in PL last season. He's the 'present'.. it just so happens he also has a 12+ year lifespan, £40m would be a bargain. As stated though, it's the wages which may cause problems.

Azpi was better than him. Baines also had a fabulous season.

[Jase 43,479]

You might want to try saying what you mean then because otherwise it just seems like you're one of those people who moans about 'the board' for the sake of it.

You talk as if our board has a bad recent record which they really don't.

Moaning for the sake of it? Did you even read Madmax's post that I replied to?

It's your view I guess but people must be kidding if they think the board hasn't had a bad record in recent years. They have done some good things but also some bad ones and yet many seem to think they have been great when the overall record is a more balanced. 50-50 kinda thing.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Moaning for the sake of it? Did you even read Madmax's post that I replied to?

It's your view I guess but people must be kidding if they think the board hasn't had a bad record in recent years. They have done some good things but also some bad ones and yet many seem to think they have been great when the overall record is a more balanced. 50-50 kinda thing.

Tbf since 2012 to now the boards have done more right than wrong with signings. The worst one is probably Marin for 8m but then for every Marin there is a Mata, Kevin, Courtois, Hazard, Oscar, Dave...etc. But if you refer to the boards's record for the past 5 years then definitely it is 50-50. Terrible ones like Matic, Torres along with good ones like Luiz, Ramires.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Moaning for the sake of it? Did you even read Madmax's post that I replied to?

It's your view I guess but people must be kidding if they think the board hasn't had a bad record in recent years. They have done some good things but also some bad ones and yet many seem to think they have been great when the overall record is a more balanced. 50-50 kinda thing.

In recent years? How recent? Since the summer of 2011 they've not done too bad, learning their lessons from the Torres transfer.

I'd love for you to explain how buying one of the best left-backs around will 'fuck up their good work'. We conceivably go into next season with a top class striker and a top class left-back, immediately upgrading two of the trouble positions in a team that only finished four points off the top spot.

When you talk about 'good work' you also have to look at the club in it's entirety and the work they do in the academy. We have the Dutch-u21 left-back who has played in more European competitions than Luke Shaw, captained our youth and reserve teams and was actually promoted to the first-team squad when we let Ryan Bertrand leave. Part of our new philosophy seems to be to promote young players so maybe we don't need to gamble £30 million plus wages on Shaw. Maybe we can get by with a top-class left-back and give the youngsters a chance.