Eden Hazard

[kellzfresh 7,229]

He's being sarcastic...

Lol....

Topic change was needed from the hazard bashin though

[kellzfresh 7,229]

He's lost form because he's a little exausted. Coming from a slower tempo league to the premier league is never easy anyways. I thinks he's done well in my opinion.

[Stingray 9,441]

@chelseachelsea

Enough with the fighting I say. Arguments like 'i am not like you. I support Chelsea just for the sake of chelsea' is playing the man, not the ball. This is an ad hominem argument and should be dimissed as invalid and not to the point.

Furthermore: you have every right to give criticism to a player, bu you are more than just doing that.

Hazard is doing ok, even though he could (and will - I believe) do better. Give the guy a chance for fucks sake before writing him off and turning this thread into a Hazard bashing session.

Also, you really ooze Chelsea supportership when your Avatar is an equally aggressive dismissal of one of our players (disregarding his performance).

So, mister 'I supporter Chelsea for Chelsea while bahing their player', I would love to say with all my heart and for the first and hopeully last time on this forum: go stick your head up the shithole where it belongs - your ass.

Ps: you are one too btw for making this thread so annoying to read.

[ResteZen17 0]

I think that is one reason that zenden has been brought in. Apparently he speaks 5 languages which is very useful to have round a diverse dressing room. I don't know if that includes french but you would think so...

Yes he speaks french fluently ... So this should help Eden to undersand Benitez ;-)

I have found an interview in french :

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xv2ik5_om-zenden-marseille-c-est-le-feu_sport

[ChelseaChelsea 37]

@chelseachelsea

Enough with the fighting I say. Arguments like 'i am not like you. I support Chelsea just for the sake of chelsea' is playing the man, not the ball. This is an ad hominem argument and should be dimissed as invalid and not to the point.

I will use this part for later part of your post.

Furthermore: you have every right to give criticism to a player, bu you are more than just doing that.

Hazard is doing ok, even though he could (and will - I believe) do better. Give the guy a chance for fucks sake before writing him off and turning this thread into a Hazard bashing session.

I never said that he is playing very poorly. I was just saying he should have been more clinical and helped us more. And I never said that he can not improve and/or I do not want to give him a chance.

Also, you really ooze Chelsea supportership when your Avatar is an equally aggressive dismissal of one of our players (disregarding his performance).

Club comes before player. If a defender does not want to defend in so many matches, he deserves even harsher comment.

So, mister 'I supporter Chelsea for Chelsea while bahing their player', I would love to say with all my heart and for the first and hopeully last time on this forum: go stick your head up the shithole where it belongs - your ass.

Ps: you are one too btw for making this thread so annoying to read.

Look at your first part of the comment. Use your own advice. This is an ad hominem argument and should be dimissed as invalid and not to the point.

[Stingray 9,441]

I will use this part for later part of your post.

I never said that he is playing very poorly. I was just saying he should have been more clinical and helped us more. And I never said that he can not improve and/or I do not want to give him a chance.

Club comes before player. If a defender does not want to defend in so many matches, he deserves even harsher comment.

Look at your first part of the comment. Use your own advice. This is an ad hominem argument and should be dimissed as invalid and not to the point.

Ow, so when I play the rules count, and when you play they don't? The tennis net is up when I serve and goes down when it's your turn?

That double standard will serve you well, I guess.

Bye bye. I strongly suspect you have alterior motives for going at Hazard.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Sorry to say. I am not like you. I support Chelsea just for sake of Chelsea.

I was going to post counterarguments until i read that last part.

Your condescension is disgusting. I'm done talking to you.

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

Whats with all these Anti-Hazard posts?

With the correct manager and tactics, Hazard should develop into a world-class player & possibly our best attacker in a few seasons.

No offence to Oscar but I see his future as a CM and as for Mata, he's already great.

Just imagine Mata, Hazard, Moses and a clinical striker playing together upfront in 2-3 seasons, the opposition's defence will be in serious trouble!

[Hutcho 8,443]

I am incredibly reluctant to post as i don't want to get in the middle of whatever argument is going on, but what the hell..

I think he has done reasonably so far. He started the season exceptionally, for what was his first season in the premier league which maybe gave us a bit of a feeling of expectation early on which we may not have had otherwise to such an extent wthout his fast start. I still believe he is performing ok giving the circumstances but mata is outshining him a bit, however we have to be aware that he has (in relation to hazard) a lot more experience. We all see his great potential there and he still shows it, and there is no doubting how his performance would be improved by having a clinical finisher up top. He has amazing potential and will hopefully be tearing it up for us for many years to come.

[ChelseaChelsea 37]

Ow, so when I play the rules count, and when you play they don't? The tennis net is up when I serve and goes down when it's your turn?

That double standard will serve you well, I guess.

Bye bye. I strongly suspect you have alterior motives for going at Hazard.

Again, this applies to you. Just because I said Willian and Reus playing a lot better currently, Belgiannutt, said very harshly, Well go support Shaktar or Dortmund then. Why would he say that?

So, When I said I am not like you, I was merely speaking the truth. You guys are supporting Chelsea due to Hazard.

Also, Belgiannutt started his post by saying Fuck off. I can't even begin to tell you how much you pissed me off.

Isn't this ad hominem ? Did you say anything to him? You rather picked up my innocent post and tried to insult me by using very coarse language. Once again, isn't it ad hominem? Why would you use ad hominem to advise me that I should not use ad hominem and then post sth like that (quoted above)?

So, Please, read your own posts. Use your own advice on you.

[ChelseaChelsea 37]

Whats with all these Anti-Hazard posts?

Just a mere criticism does not make someone 'anti-hazard'? I still believe that he can be a good player for us in the future. But, currently not so good. Not 32m Class. That's my opinion.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Alright ENOUGH!

This is a Chelsea forum, you can criticize players and opinions (as long as you do respectfully and with logic) but you can't criticize members on a personal level. If you can't keep the discussion about Hazard and as respectful as possible then don't post here.

Last warning for everyone in this thread.

[Stingray 9,441]

Again, this applies to you. Just because I said Willian and Reus playing a lot better currently, Belgiannutt, said very harshly, Well go support Shaktar or Dortmund then. Why would he say that?

So, When I said I am not like you, I was merely speaking the truth. You guys are supporting Chelsea due to Hazard.

Also, Belgiannutt started his post by saying Fuck off. I can't even begin to tell you how much you pissed me off.

Isn't this ad hominem ? Did you say anything to him? You rather picked up my innocent post and tried to insult me by using very coarse language. Once again, isn't it ad hominem? Why would you use ad hominem to advise me that I should not use ad hominem and then post sth like that (quoted above)?

So, Please, read your own posts. Use your own advice on you.

Reread your own posts. It is like you are the one and only true Chelsea supporter supplying us with your infinite wisdom. You insult the belgians on here solely because we like Hazard. So that is the start of this all and the reason I called ad hominem on you. So what if people become fans of a club due to a player? Does that make them less of a fan? Does that make them inferior or less of a fan? What about the fans Drogba brought in or Zola, Oscar, or even Robertro Di Matteo. Where do you draw the line? Guess we are all plastic in your book, hey? Funby your opinions don't get shared by fans who do have a pedigree. Maybe they too are deluded in your book?

Also: your popularity in other threads leaves much to be desired for I see. You do the same thing with people on the Luiz thread and with as much succes as on here.

Is it your game to fuck up the forum with personal insults?

So yeah, like a pacifist can not beat a war mongerer without force, I sadly had to revert to your own tactics to get a point across. At least I normally don't do that on here, for you it seems a way of life, looking at the hostility of your posts, avatar and style.

Autism much ?

Also, this is the last time I replied. You may well be a fun guy in real life but on here you sure do not display it .... I am done with all the negativity you ooze.

Edit: Choulo, sorry but I was typing this while you made your comment.

[ChelseaChelsea 37]

Reread our own posts. It is like you are the one and only true Chelsea supporter supplying us with your infinite wisdom. You insult the belgians on here solely because we like Hazard. So that is the start of this all and the reason I called ad hominem on you. So what if people become fans of a club due to a player? Does that make them less of a fan? Does that make them inferior or less of a fan? What about the fans Drogba brought in or Zola, Oscar, or even Robertro Di Matteo. Where do you draw the line? Guess we are all plastic in your book, hey? Funby your opinions don't get shared by fans who do have a pedigree. Maybe they too are deluded in your book?

I never said, Belgians are plastic just because they are here for supporting Hazard. I just replied to insults, which were started by Hazard fans. And a fan who supports a club just for one player is not equal to a fan who supports the club just for the club.

Also: your popularity in other threads leaves much to be desired for I see. You do the same thing with people on the Luiz thread and with as much succes as on here.

Yes. My 'popularity' could be less in other threads just like this as I do not insult other members. And I never asked you to judge me.

Is it your game to fuck up the forum with personal insults?

So yeah, like a pacifist can not beat a war mongerer without force, I sadly had to revert to your own tactics to get a point across. At least I normally don't do that on here, for you it seems a way of life, looking at the hostility of your posts, avatar and style.

Autism much ?

Also, this is the last time I replied. You may well be a fun guy in real life but on here you sure do not display it .... I am done with all the negativity you ooze.

Edit: Choulo, sorry but I was typing this while you made your comment.

More false accusations and insults directed towards me. And the analogy fails. You did not reply properly to my previous post where I asked you some questions. You have avoided many questions.

[Hamilton 2,120]

Come on lads, let's all be cool..