Eden Hazard

[Fernando 6,484]

He can do whatever he wants but I will not be surprised if he ends up being disappointed at his time in Madrid. 

At Madrid he will just be another player, here he will go down as a legend. 

I wonder if he ponders this? 

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

5 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

We had 7 years to show our ambition. Unfortunately the club seems to be content with just challenging but never going a step further to really put us up there. 

Always a couple quality players short.

I don't blame him for wanting to leave, at all.  He joined us as we needed to start overhauling the squad, but we haven't really done enough or brought in the right quality.  

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

4 hours ago, Jason said:

I know what you're trying to get at but those examples are terrible. Clockwork and Sideshow Luiz are just resigned to losing Hazard, which I think deep down, we all have been feeling the same for some time now. That's different from actually criticizing him, is it?

I think there are just some crossed wires here.  I certainly didn't get the impression that @Belgiannutt was calling me fickle.  I read it as 2 separate discussions within 1 post.  But you're definitely correct on my reading, I'm resigned to losing him.  Which relates to this:

5 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

IWe had 7 years to show our ambition. Unfortunately the club seems to be content with just challenging but never going a step further to really put us up there. 

Always a couple quality players short.

Yup, we've really done nothing.  When I say "there's not much else the club can do", I meant this season.  What could possibly change between now and the end of the season that would change Hazard's mind, or sway him in our direction if he's really on the fence?  From our position, there's really nothing, short of hoping that Madrid sign Neymar, and Eden not wanting to play second fiddle.

I agree with the general sentiment that's out there, that the grass in Madrid may not be as green as it looks.  But, if it's been his childhood dream, and it has a chance to happen, I can't blame him.  I think he does love the club (Chelsea), and I'd hate to see fans turn on him if he wants to leave.  He's got 1 life and 1 career and he has a rare opportunity to realize a childhood ambition.  We've signed a lot of players away from other clubs, and it goes both ways.  As much as no one wants to think of themselves as a "small" or "selling" club, when Madrid or Barca come calling everyone is a "selling club".  Even Utd, at their peak, couldn't keep Ronaldo from Madrid.  I also agree that he needs to stop talking about it.  

For the record:

I think Hazard is gone.  I love to see him in full flight.  Maybe my favourite sight in football.  I don't blame him for wanting to go to Madrid, if it's always been a dream for him.  Especially when you consider that we're not challenging for the CL anymore.  I also think that he wants Madrid more than they want him.  Personally, I think Neymar makes more sense for them and I think they want him more.  But, that's really neither here nor there. 

But, we're still Chelsea, we were before he came.  And when he came, he wasn't Eden Hazard yet.  He had a lot of promise.  I'd say that the most worrying thing about him leaving is trusting the board to get the right players in with the fees.  We're not going to find a direct replacement.  He's too good.  Can the board get the right youngster in (do we have him with CHO)?  It's not outside the real of possibility that the board replace him with someone who's "Drinkwater-esque".  Which is the really frightening proposition.

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2 hours ago, Fernando said:

He can do whatever he wants but I will not be surprised if he ends up being disappointed at his time in Madrid. 

At Madrid he will just be another player, here he will go down as a legend. 

I wonder if he ponders this? 

Look at the way courtios ending up the real madrid fans have turn on him The same thing could happen to Hazard the real fans can turn on you quick if don't impress them 

[Magic Lamps 11,668]

+ it is not that Real Madrid are not in transtition too. they are in a phase were they are way behind barcelona who are not at their best either. i dont think that real will win the cl during hazards remaining career either so he can just as well stay here. 

[Vesper 29,019]

6 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

+ it is not that Real Madrid are not in transtition too. they are in a phase were they are way behind barcelona who are not at their best either. i dont think that real will win the cl during hazards remaining career either so he can just as well stay here. 

Hazard would LOVE to go to Real and be the saviour (along with Icardi)

They buy de Ligt too and de Jong and BOOM

They also HAVE to have a WC manager, who I cogitate will be Conte or Allegri 

[Magic Lamps 11,668]

11 hours ago, Vesper said:

Hazard would LOVE to go to Real and be the saviour (along with Icardi)

They buy de Ligt too and de Jong and BOOM

They also HAVE to have a WC manager, who I cogitate will be Conte or Allegri 

But its not gonna work like that. Hazard is not the leader type who will bring them to cl glory instantly. De ligt and de jing are still not finished products. This would still be a transition and hazard is running out of time. 

[Unionjack 7,531]

On 12/13/2018 at 2:43 PM, Sideshow Luiz said:

I love to see him in full flight. 

I'm sure thats what every single one of us feel about him mate.

But the days that he does this are few. He just cant seem to keep his form.

 

I laughed when there was all that chatter about the 40 goals in a season. Hes just not a goal scorer.

I thought at the start of the season that everything was going to be alright as Bob tells us. He was looking like he really meant business. He wasn't his usual bouncy cheeky chappy but I thought maybe the captainship of Belgium had give him a new sense of maturity and comitment.

But he soooooo pisses me off and more each time he opens his mouth about whatever team he can pick.

 

I said 2 seasons ago we should capitalize on him and put it to buying some players with that grit and urgency to find the goal. But I don't think I see us getting £100mill for him. I see RM trying to do some player swap and our board accepting it.

 

IMHO we have lost better players han him before and no doubt will again in the future. I just hope we manage to get a fill in who stays with us as long as Eden.

This is the Eden I want to remember

 

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

Chelsea news: Real Madrid plot fresh Eden Hazard swap deal to get rid of ‘problem’ player

 

CHELSEA star Eden Hazard is reportedly being targeted by Real Madrid again.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/748159/Chelsea-news-Real-Madrid-Eden-Hazard-Isco-Maurizio-Sarri-Cristiano-Ronaldo-Premier-League

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Just to leave my 2 cents in case my position has not been clear enough.

If the "fickle" term was directed at me, then I could not disagree more. I've watched Hazard play for a very long time and my opinion of him has not changed: great player and at the same time overrated by chelsea, and especially Belgium fans.

Saying that Salah is the better player is merely stating one's opinion, and not a very controversial one outside of TC.

On a professional level, I don't care for Eden very much. He disrespects the club every time he offers himself to RM (that's what agents are for!), which happens quite often. So, for me it is definitely a "fuck off!"

While I wish we could have retained Hazard, because it's never easy to replace great players, I agree with @Unionjack that that ship has sailed, and we should've already cashed out on him.

Club is much much bigger than ANY player.

 

[manpe 10,861]

2 hours ago, Unionjack said:

Chelsea news: Real Madrid plot fresh Eden Hazard swap deal to get rid of ‘problem’ player

 

CHELSEA star Eden Hazard is reportedly being targeted by Real Madrid again.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/748159/Chelsea-news-Real-Madrid-Eden-Hazard-Isco-Maurizio-Sarri-Cristiano-Ronaldo-Premier-League

“We will see, it'll be up to me to make the decision."

Implying that there is concrete interest and it is all in his hands now? Why would he say that otherwise I wonder... Anyway, he's already made his decision I'm afraid, he just doesn't want to anger the club and fans by saying outright that he'll fuck off unless there is some force majeure stopping it. But please just shut up and concentrate on your football, stop tarnishing your legacy with subpar performances and whoring to outside buyers.

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, manpe said:

“We will see, it'll be up to me to make the decision."

Implying that there is concrete interest and it is all in his hands now? Why would he say that otherwise I wonder... Anyway, he's already made his decision I'm afraid, he just doesn't want to anger the club and fans by saying outright that he'll fuck off unless there is some force majeure stopping it. But please just shut up and concentrate on your football, stop tarnishing your legacy with subpar performances and whoring to outside buyers.

Am gonna laugh if after all this 'come and sign me' pleas and Real are still not bothered to sign Hazard.

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

Am gonna laugh if after all this 'come and sign me' pleas and Real are still not bothered to sign Hazard.

would we get a 25% off if that happens?  

[LAM09 6,780]

Am gonna laugh if after all this 'come and sign me' pleas and Real are still not bothered to sign Hazard.

He is anything but their first, second or third choice, so it wouldn't be unthinkable if they didn't lodge a bid.

[Jase 43,479]

5 hours ago, LAM09 said:

6 hours ago, Jason said:

Am gonna laugh if after all this 'come and sign me' pleas and Real are still not bothered to sign Hazard.

He is anything but their first, second or third choice, so it wouldn't be unthinkable if they didn't lodge a bid.

Talking from Hazard's POV. He's been begging them to come sign him for so many years. Imagine if after all that overselling of himself and Real still be like "WHATEVER!" and go sign Neymar or Mbappe instead. 

[Unionjack 7,531]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Talking from Hazard's POV. He's been begging them to come sign him for so many years. Imagine if after all that overselling of himself and Real still be like "WHATEVER!" and go sign Neymar or Mbappe instead. 

He would need to bring in a psychiatrist t to sort his head out.

Maybe get them to sort out Morata at the same time.

[communicate 2,703]

On 12/14/2018 at 4:02 AM, Magic Lamps said:

+ it is not that Real Madrid are not in transtition too. they are in a phase were they are way behind barcelona who are not at their best either. i dont think that real will win the cl during hazards remaining career either so he can just as well stay here. 

This Madrid team has been quite poor for a number of years now yet they won 3 ucl in a row. For me, it is hard to predict ucl because the luck factor is very big, one mistake, one lucky break means either you are out or win

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Madrid actually need goalscorers than creators like Hazard, they have creators in abundance. If they don't get FFP to pile pressure on PSG so that they can get Neymar, then they'll come for Hazard. In that case I wouldn't be against getting Isco + 80-100mil since Isco has some problems with the coach.