Eden Hazard

[zakhov 253]

1 minute ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

It's not good. The long range goals he's scores are either speculative (Stoke away with his left foot, Hull away) or when he was running from certain angles (Hull City away 2013/14, goal vs Burnley, vs Hungary at Euros)

Believe me I know what I'm talking about. That is by far the weakest part of his game followed by his corner kicks). Seriously he's played about 250 games for us already. This should be obvious.

Problem is I'm not just referring to his long range shots, I mentioned he should shoot more when it opens up for him rather look for a teammate. 

It means that he's in a good position to shoot but doesn't, could be inside the box or just outside the box.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

7 minutes ago, zakhov said:

Problem is I'm not just referring to his long range shots, I mentioned he should shoot more when it opens up for him rather look for a teammate. 

It means that he's in a good position to shoot but doesn't, could be inside the box or just outside the box.

Even when it opens for him to shoot it's still a bad idea because his long range shooting is not that good. So why even mention it in *that* instance? 

 

14 minutes ago, zakhov said:

I agree, but there are some moments throughout his time with us where he's done all the hard work, could shoot at the moment but goes for a teammate instead.

When we signed him, he was pretty much the leading man at Lille and he did score some cracking screamers in his debut season with us. So he's definitely capable, no doubt about it.

Being unselfish is one of his better qualities as a player and a teammate but he should have a selfish streak sometimes. He's entitled to it after all.
Agreed that we don't want him to go for the speculative shoots often, but just when it opens up for him.

What the fuck are you on about here. See this is the problem Zakhov.The bolded part is video game esque ignorance with all due respect mate. Do you know how extraordinary it is to have the ability to dribble past 3 or 4 players consistently within a single stride? Then you expect him to get the ball out of his feet so quickly and then have an accurate shot on goal. That's lunacy. Nobody can do that in football. Not in the history of football. Except maybe Messi. Very few players in the history of football possess the talent Hazard does. Stop complaining about what you think he isn't doing right (which is mostly unfounded). Can he be more selfish sometimes, yes. But lets focus on what can make us better as a team not what you think *might* make Hazard a better player and it won't since his long range shooting is not great (except when he's running with the ball from certain angles). 

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9 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

You're taking shit because Pedro is actually better than Hazard at shooting. Much better. It's like wondering why Pedro can't dribble past 4 or 5 players at once like Hazard can. It's a moot point to make at this point to anyone with even an oata of common sense. Hazard can be unselfish sometimes (that is hardly saying anything revolutionary) but criticizing him for it in that instance he chooses not to shoot on sight is stupid. He had jus had a dribbling moment and the ball was probably still stuck under his foot. If he shot from there it will most likely have gone way over the bar.

Congratulations for turning the Hazard page into why didn't he shoot on one occassion (after he just recovered from a fucking leg break no less). 

Pedro more often than not skies his shots as well but he could hit the odd screamer undeniably. Doesn't mean Hazard should shoot less.

You have severe problems  with reading comprehension, I'm not whining nor criticising him for not shooting. I'm not entitled to wish him to score on his comeback as a fan?
I said I was crying out for him to shoot and I WISH he would shoot more in those moments. I'm not pissed nor am I unhappy that he didn't. I just want him to be more selfish and if he doesn't, that's fine as long as he performs.

You probably should put me in ignore if you don't like my posts. Not sure what ticked you off initially as I thought my initial comment was pretty harmless.

I'm through explaining myself.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Just now, zakhov said:

Pedro more often than not skies his shots as well but he could hit the odd screamer undeniably. Doesn't mean Hazard should shoot less.

You have severe reading comprehension, I'm not whining nor criticising him for not shooting. I'm not entitled to wish him to score on his comeback as a fan?
I said I was crying out for him to shoot and I WISH he would shoot more in those moments. I'm not pissed nor am I unhappy that he didn't. I just want him to be more selfish and if he doesn't, that's fine as long as he performs.

You probably should put me in ignore if you don't like my posts. Not sure what ticked you off initially as I thought my initial comment was pretty harmless.

I'm through explaining myself.

Hazard can't shoot as well as Pedro does so doesn't take as many shots and taking shots just for the sake of it instead of applying his quality to the team (as thankfully he does) won't make us better as a team. No one gives a fuck is Hazard is not satisfying your outrageous demands at this point. 2 league titles in 3 years. Best player on both title winning teams. Chelsea legend already. Loyal. What the fuck else do you want from one man? He dribbles past 4 players and then doesn't score a 25 yard screamer afterwards? Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Make up your mind, if Hazard is helping us win titles, I don't give a fuck if he isn't firing at will from 25 yards. 

[zakhov 253]

Just now, MrExcalibur100 said:

Hazard can't shoot as well as Pedro does so doesn't take as many shots and taking shots just for the sake of it instead of applying his quality to the team (as thankfully he does) won't make us better as a team. No one gives a fuck is Hazard is not satisfying your outrageous demands at this point. 2 league titles in 3 years. Best player on both title winning teams. Chelsea legend already. Loyal. What the fuck else do you want from one man? He dribbles past 4 players and then doesn't score a 25 yard screamer afterwards? Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Make up your mind, if Hazard is helping us win titles, I don't give a fuck if he isn't firing at will from 25 yards. 

Whatever mate. We just won a match and you're spending more time ranting about my rather harmless post.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

13 minutes ago, zakhov said:

Whatever mate. We just won a match and you're spending more time ranting about my rather harmless post.

Was it really? So harmless that you were almost in tears (your words) he didn't shoot? 

[zakhov 253]

Just now, MrExcalibur100 said:

You're the one who hijacked the thread moaning about irrelevant shite because Hazard didn't shoot from 25 yards after dribbling past 4 players after just recovering from an ankle break. Next game you'll moan about how he didn't score from the opposition half. It's crazy. Maybe you've become spoiled with greatness and no longer live in the real world. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_a_mountain_out_of_a_molehill

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

8 minutes ago, zakhov said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_a_mountain_out_of_a_molehill

You're the one who did this with your initial post. Seriously if you posted that on RedCafe or RAWK, you'll get mocked and slaughtered.

You're the one who hijacked the thread moaning about irrelevant shite because Hazard didn't shoot from 25 yards after dribbling past 4 players after just recovering from an ankle break. Next game you'll moan about how he didn't score from the opposition half. It's crazy. Maybe you've become spoiled with greatness and no longer live in the real world.

And your initial post wasn't harmless. It was a big moan about you "crying" because Hazard didn't shoot and even questioning the possibility of a problem with his mentality. Yeah let's question the mentality of a guy who put a blunt, tiring team on his back and carried that team to a league title in the 2nd half of the 2014/15 season. Or  after all the absolutely insane slander he got from the 2015/16 season they all questioned his mentalilty and see how he responded. We as Chelsea fans should know better. I don't see how any Chelsea fan can ever question anything about this particular player. Maybe I'm just a hopeless fanboy but Eden has won my heart and I have a whole lot of respect for him as a player and a person.  

Some of you sound like parents who live through their children and then expect them to live up to outrageous expectations. Hazard is the only player on this forum whose game still gets scrutinized after performances, regardless of how he well plays. No other player gets this shit. Maybe I'm just insane or something but it's getting mad. Jesus wept. 

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Just now, MrExcalibur100 said:

You're the one who did this with your initial post. Seriously if you posted that on RedCafe or RAWK, you'll get mocked and slaughtered.

You're the one who hijacked the thread moaning about irrelevant shite because Hazard didn't shoot from 25 yards after dribbling past 4 players after just recovering from an ankle break. Next game you'll moan about how he didn't score from the opposition half. It's crazy. Maybe you've become spoiled with greatness and no longer live in the real world.

And your initial post wasn't harmless. It was a big moan about you "crying" because Hazard didn't shoot and even questioning the possibility of a problem with his mentality. Yeah let's question the mentality of a guy who put a blunt, tiring team on his back and carried that team to a league title in the 2nd half of the 2014/15 season. Or  after all the absolutely insane slander he got from the 2015/16 season they all questioned his mentalilty and see how he responded. We as Chelsea fans should know better. I don't see how any Chelsea fan can ever question anything about this particular player. Maybe I'm just a hopeless fanboy but Eden has won my heart and I have a whole lot of respect for him as a player and a person.  

Some of you sound like parents who live through their children and then expect them to live up to outrageous expectations. Hazard is the only player on this forum whose game still gets scrutinized after performances, regardless of how he well plays. No other player gets this shit. Maybe I'm just insane or something but it's getting mad. Jesus wept. 

Seriously mate, just put me in ignore. If my posts when I'm not actually whining or moaning about our players bother you this much..

I'm afraid of what it will do to your blood pressure when I do actually whine and moan about our players...

We just won a match today and the players came out unscathed but from the way you're posting it's as if we just lost 4-0 and lost Hazard for the season because he broke his leg through shooting from distance...

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

Lmao at this thread complete pointless argument you have just had . He should do this this n that. Let hazard do what hazard does best and BE hazard, I dont want him to change nothing about his game.

[zakhov 253]

59 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said:

Lmao at this thread complete pointless argument you have just had . He should do this this n that. Let hazard do what hazard does best and BE hazard, I dont want him to change nothing about his game.

I was only expressing an opinion, I didn't realize it was going to provoke such a strong response.

What harm does a meager opinion on a football forum would do for a top footballer? I'm not even attacking or moaning/whinging at him for not doing this or that.

I just thought it would do him better if he would be more selfish in those situations, it's just wishful thinking on my part...end of story.

But agreed, I probably could've just let it slide after the first response I got. .
It was indeed a pointless argument...circle jerk and all that... 

[Jase 43,479]

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/morata-can-score-with-his-head-now-lets-see-him-score-with/n06yqv7a73251v8mho43up1e9

"As a player you want to play in the Champions League but last year, we just watched it on the TV and it was not a good feeling," he continued. "You want to play in these kinds of games because you know that every time you play in the Champions League it is a big game.

"Everyone is watching you. So we are happy to be back in the Champions League this season. I don't like to watch other games on TV, I just like to watch my brother [Thorgan Hazard] play so that's why I watch the Champions League. As a player, we want to play in these games though.

"You just want to be part of this. I don't like to watch the games on TV, I just want to be on the pitch. This year is important, I just reached the semi-final when we lost against Atletico Madrid so it is in my head to win this trophy. 

"I won the Premier League, I won the league in France so the big players want to win the Champions League. I think now it is a time to win this as we have a good squad, a good manager so we are ready for that. 

"This season, it will be different because we play on Tuesdays and Wednesdays but we have a lot of good players. The manager has the experience in the Premier League and Champions League. It is completely different to last season but we are professional and we know this kind of situation.

"We just want to play, you know, if some players are tired then another player can play so we have no problems with this."

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

Yeah he is in NO way, shape, or form ready for Arsenal on sunday. 

Also, was it me or did Hazard look chubby today? I thought he was in good weight last week, but today he looked different.

Maybe im seeing things, idk.  

 

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

Our season doesn't start until Hazard is up and firing on all cylinders. 

Just need to keep it close in the Title race until he gets back. 

It just sucks so much that he had that ankle injury. 

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

9 minutes ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

Yeah he is in NO way, shape, or form ready for Arsenal on sunday. 

Also, was it me or did Hazard look chubby today? I thought he was in good weight last week, but today he looked different.

Maybe im seeing things, idk.  

 

Shirt was baggy. Looked like a penguin. Tbh he always starts the season abit chubby.

[The Skipper 20,593]

9 hours ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

Our season doesn't start until Hazard is up and firing on all cylinders. 

Just need to keep it close in the Title race until he gets back. 

It just sucks so much that he had that ankle injury. 

Yep. Even a half fit Eden makes us so much more unpredictable going forward though. Not surprised the floodgates opened once he came on yesterday. 

[communicate 2,703]

13 hours ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

Yeah he is in NO way, shape, or form ready for Arsenal on sunday. 

Also, was it me or did Hazard look chubby today? I thought he was in good weight last week, but today he looked different.

Maybe im seeing things, idk.  

 

But you can tell easily that he is by far our best player.

I think Conte is just being conservative with him because he know his importance to our team hence he will probably start on the bemch against Arsenal