Jokesy 53 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Comparing the succesful transfers of attacking players to the failures is enough to make you cry. We've seen an army of players come and go, Drogba and Hazard were the closest things to superstars in a Chelsea shirt. Just two players. Think about that.Selling Hazard would be disastrous. I have good faith it won't come to that though.Personally, I prefer a fit Chelsea Arjen Robben to Eden Hazards any day. Always runs at defenders and not sideways, very quick counter attack,... etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Personally, I prefer a fit Chelsea Arjen Robben to Eden Hazard anyway. Always run at defenders and not sideways, very quick counter attack,... etccheck their ages and if Robben is fit is quite a BIG IF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokesy 53 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 check their ages and if Robben is fit is quite a BIG IFTrue.. I meant when Robben was at Chelsea. They were of comparable age too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laugh1ngMan 393 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Reus and Isco or Bale> Hazard any day. They are not big game bottlers like the Belgian either and even in a bad season last year Bale still hit nearly 20 goals, he doesn't go 15 matches scoreless streak like Hazard atm.Well maybe, just maybe Eden would score that amount of goals as well if Mou actually decided he wants his attacking players to be more concerned about attacking instead of defending Weckerz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Reus and Isco or Bale> Hazard any day. They are not big game bottlers like the Belgian either and even in a bad season last year Bale still hit nearly 20 goals, he doesn't go 15 matches scoreless streak like Hazard atm. To see Hazard only in terms of goals scored is really simplistic for that matter, he is providing far more than just goals and assists. Us Chelsea fans who see him weekly should know that more than anyone. Besides, don't you think that Hazard's numbers in a team like Madrid which destroy opponents and often score 4+ goals would be much much higher? Bale is overrated as f***, he can run, he can score, but is near useless when spaces disappear, which is almost always the game plan of our opponents.The same reasoning applies for belgians comparing KDB and Hazard. Yes KDB is far better at the moment but it's so much easier to perform the way he does in an attacking team that scores so many goals. Too many often forget the context in which a player evolves...Finally, it's true that Eden is underperforming, but come on, he's been far from the abysses a lot a people here put him in. He should do better of course, because we all know his potential, but he has not been THAT BAD.He's still one of the best at creating chances this season (http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/19/chelseas-eden-hazard-among-best-in-the-premier-league-at-creating-chances-stats-5447733/), in a appalling Chelsea side, and only lacks goals.. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 True.. I meant when Robben was at Chelsea. They were of comparable age tooHazard >>>>>>>> Robben at Chelsea DYC., Essien19 and rantdeville 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 True.. I meant when Robben was at Chelsea. They were of comparable age toowell if we travelling back in time ..i will have Charlie Cooke ,, Osgood ,, and Zola :blue scalf: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Could be a blessing in disguise. Do not back down unless they give us Varane.Splash out for Reus - Chelsea Champions League winners 16/17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Weckerz 3,781 Posted October 19, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 19, 2015 Could be a blessing in disguise. Do not back down unless they give us Varane.Splash out for Reus - Chelsea Champions League winners 16/17.As if Reus would want to come here seeing Hazard leave to pursue attacking footballQuite shocked at the number of people turning their back on a player who's been instrumental for 3 years after a 2 month blip in form. Essien19, mediator, rantdeville and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 As if Reus would want to come here seeing Hazard leave to pursue attacking footballQuite shocked at the number of people turning their back on a player who's been instrumental for 3 years after a 2 month blip in form.I'm not turning back on him - but Varane is what we need and Reus is nearly as good as Hazard. If he wants to leave all I'm saying is that it won't be the end of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'm not turning back on him - but Varane is what we need and Reus is nearly as good as HazardVarane+Reus for Hazard would be a great deal, I don't see it happeningedit: I don't think he'll leave fwiw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Varane+Reus for Hazard would be a great deal, I don't see it happeningedit: I don't think he'll leave fwiw350mWell if we got Varane + £30m for Hazard (I make that circa £120m is overall) and then spend £50m and bag Reus I'd say overall it is a massive improvement to our total squad. If we then sold Fabregas and got, say, Gundogan or Isco or whoever, and replaced Ivanovic if Baba does not make the jump, I'd make us favourites for a treble season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokesy 53 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Hazard >>>>>>>> Robben at ChelseaTrue, and that's because he isn't always injured. I remember a game against Newcastle. Robben dribbled everyone from our own half and went on to score. Hazard wouldn't even do that. He would have gone sideways you know, and get fouled in a non-dangerous area of the pitch. A fit Robben was any day better IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Personally, I prefer a fit Chelsea Arjen Robben to Eden Hazards any day. Always runs at defenders and not sideways, very quick counter attack,... etcRobben was good but he wasn't great imo. Massive potential but inconsistent. Didn't score or assist much. But he was fun to watch because of his lightning pace and mazy dribbles.I don't understand how you could possibly prefer him over Hazard. His terrible fitness back then alone is enough to prefer Hazard. Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Well if we got Varane + £30m for Hazard (I make that circa £120m is overall) and then spend £50m and bag Reus I'd say overall it is a massive improvement to our total squad. If we then sold Fabregas and got, say, Gundogan or Isco or whoever, and replaced Ivanovic if Baba does not make the jump, I'd make us favourites for a treble season.Well yea obviously, but I'm not living in a dreamworld. We're a great club and grew alot in stature but I don't get why so many think we can just snap our fingers and sign a couple of world class talents like Bale, Reus or Isco.Add the mediacircus that would be circling Chelsea should Eden leave to a club/manager with an attacking philosophy.. not the ideal circumstance to attract quality attacking players. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 True, and that's because he isn't always injured. I remember a game against Newcastle. Robben dribbled everyone from our own half and went on to score. Hazard wouldn't even do that. He would have gone sideways you know, and get fouled in a non-dangerous area of the pitch.A fit Robben was any day better IMOI remember once that Robben got a hard tackle, broke his shoulder or something like that. He seemed to be afraid after that when he came back. Jumping out and stopping the attack instead of riding the challenge - I partly blame it for the reason he chose to leave the premier league for the less aggressive Spanish league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Well yea obviously, but I'm not living in a dreamworld. We're a great club and grew alot in stature but I don't get why so many think we can just snap our fingers and sign a couple of world class talents like Bale, Reus or Isco.Add the mediacircus that would be circling Chelsea should Eden leave to a club/manager with an attacking philosophy.. not the ideal circumstance to attract quality attacking players.Maybe. But when have we ever given a fuck about what the media say about us?The best situation would be Reus being in form for us while Hazard struggles at RM, the fans turn on him and then we buy him back a year later for £50m In all seriousness though, maybe we could use that to work in our favour. With Hazard out, maybe Reus would like the idea of being THE man at Chelsea, who makes it tick in midfield, etc etcBut if our team in 16/17 is Courtois Azpi Varane Zouma BabaKenedy Matic RLC Reus Solanke Costa(and all players like to their potential)with a bench including players like Oscar, Willian, Terry (player/coach) etc etc then we will win many, many things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 True, and that's because he isn't always injured. I remember a game against Newcastle. Robben dribbled everyone from our own half and went on to score. Hazard wouldn't even do that. He would have gone sideways you know, and get fouled in a non-dangerous area of the pitch.A fit Robben was any day better IMOEveryone's entitled to his opinion, but Hazard is far more influential than Robben ever was with us. Robben was more direct, but in terms of combining in small spaces and the oponent's box, Eden is unmatched. Maybe. But when have we ever given a fuck about what the media say about us?The best situation would be Reus being in form for us while Hazard struggles at RM, the fans turn on him and then we buy him back a year later for £50m Not only the media, but also the player's idea of what playing at Chelsea under Mourinho would be like. It sure is an important factor in the player's choice when it comes to going to a new club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Maybe. But when have we ever given a fuck about what the media say about us?The best situation would be Reus being in form for us while Hazard struggles at RM, the fans turn on him and then we buy him back a year later for £50m We don't, but the players we want to buy might =) CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 We don't, but the players we want to buy might =)Well yeah hahaIf I were Jose I would ask Zola to come back and do attacking coaching - he could teach our whole front 5 many, many things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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