MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 The problem is how you frame the sentence. "It's easy doing it against Eastern European blah, blah" As if he hasn't scored against Bayern Munich, Liverpool, Arsenal and Man United so far for us. Some great goals in there too. Not often enough for me, for example against Arsenal because we won no one is talking about it but he actually shouldn't have blazed a chance over before Costa got his goal. I know it is a small thing and he is a wonderful but can't they all improve? No one is perfect. What I don't understand is why people get upset for pointing out an area of his game he can improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I wish we had 2 more non-goalscoring Hazard's in this team to play in the other two AM positions.Reus next summer will do with Hazard on the right and Oscar in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Not often enough for me, for example against Arsenal because we won no one is talking about it but he actually shouldn't have blazed a chance over before Costa got his goal. I know it is a small thing and he is a wonderful but can't they all improve? No one is perfect. What I don't understand is why people get upset for pointing out an area of his game he can improve.Because you don't know how to be critical without sounding like an ass. You and that Nike guy. Both of you over-flood the comments section with some bizarre stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I wish we had 2 more non-goalscoring Hazard's in this team to play in the other two AM positions.I thought we signed a 32 million pound attacking mid last season? iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Must to improve his finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Have a feeling he'll leave for Madrid in a season or two. Jose has done wonders for his mentality and desire this season but stylistically we aren't getting the best out of him. He should have seen way more of the ball than he did today.He also made about 2 or 3 good runs into the box today but we didn't play him in. I specifically remember Drogba playing a shit pass on a counter in the 1st half and Oscar with an awfully weighted pass in the 2nd that took him away from the goal when he was isolated.Oscar and Willian aren't doing him any favours in all honesty. Those two are as uncreative as it gets in the final 3rd. Stingray, The Chels, Styles and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 It's amazing Hazard gets judged on goals. Funny thing is people want him to be "more greedy" yet when Schurlle takes 20 shots against Bolton moan moan, hold on isn't that what you want Hazard to start doing?Ronaldo and Messi have set expectations way way to high, give it ten years full backs will be getting judged on goals Atholy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Reus next summer will do with Hazard on the right and Oscar in the middle.Whoever it is, we need a player of that calibre to improve the first 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 It's amazing Hazard gets judged on goals. Funny thing is people want him to be "more greedy" yet when Schurlle takes 20 shots against Bolton moan moan, hold on isn't that what you want Hazard to start doing?Ronaldo and Messi have set expectations way way to high, give it ten years full backs will be getting judged on goals Considering now they are starting to get forward a lot more in modern game, probably... No one want Hazard to be more greedy but more clinical, don't think you can tell the difference though.Have a feeling he'll leave for Madrid in a season or two. Jose has done wonders for his mentality and desire this season but stylistically we aren't getting the best out of him. He should have seen way more of the ball than he did today.He also made about 2 or 3 good runs into the box today but we didn't play him in. I specifically remember Drogba playing a shit pass on a counter in the 1st half and Oscar with an awfully weighted pass in the 2nd that took him away from the goal when he was isolated.Oscar and Willian aren't doing him any favours in all honesty. Those two are as uncreative as it gets in the final 3rd.Inevitable once Ronaldo declines or Bale/James isn't up to it. Doesn't matter we can replace him as long as we spend the money wisely and not do a Liverpool/Spurs style transfer. For example getting in Reus now and there will be virtually NO DIFFERENCE, getting in Bale now also would result in no difference at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Bale can be so painful to watch sometimes... makes Hazard look like Maradona.Not to take anything away from Bale, he's a great player and I'm happy that a UK player is playing at the highest level in a foreign league for a powerhouse club, but he has this thing that (in games I've watched this season) even if he scores, he isn't contributing much else to the team. He can just go anonymous or invisible in games and wait to apply a finish to good build up play from his team-mates. Same thing with Neymar.Neither of those players link the midfield and attack for their team like Hazard does for us, Fabregas was spot on of his analysis of him when he said he's our Messi minus the 50 goals. Almost every goal that we've scored comes from Hazard building it up. I genuinely believe we'll be a worse team if we swapped him for either Bale or Neymar and Real and Barca will be better teams with him. Eden can improve his shooting technique though, there's no doubt Bale is ahead of him in this regard. commilin and Myself 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Have a feeling he'll leave for Madrid in a season or two. Jose has done wonders for his mentality and desire this season but stylistically we aren't getting the best out of him. He should have seen way more of the ball than he did today.He also made about 2 or 3 good runs into the box today but we didn't play him in. I specifically remember Drogba playing a shit pass on a counter in the 1st half and Oscar with an awfully weighted pass in the 2nd that took him away from the goal when he was isolated.Oscar and Willian aren't doing him any favours in all honesty. Those two are as uncreative as it gets in the final 3rd.That pissed me off, especially the Oscar one; it's embarrassing that he can get a simple pass so wrong.We definitely need a Hazard calibre player in AM and RM. I'd settle for just one to be honest. Gilvorak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Considering now they are starting to get forward a lot more in modern game, probably... No one want Hazard to be more greedy but more clinical, don't think you can tell the difference though.Inevitable once Ronaldo declines or Bale/James isn't up to it. Doesn't matter we can replace him as long as we spend the money wisely and not do a Liverpool/Spurs style transfer. For example getting in Reus now and there will be virtually NO DIFFERENCE, getting in Bale now also would result in no difference at all.More clinical is a bonus, that's what we pay Diego for.Hazard has his skillset and a unique skillset to boot, Bergkamp was never clinical but is one off the greatest player's off his generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 She asked me to marry her but I declined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Not to take anything away from Bale, he's a great player and I'm happy that a UK player is playing at the highest level in a foreign league for a powerhouse club, but he has this thing that (in games I've watched this season) even if he scores, he isn't contributing much else to the team. He can just go anonymous or invisible in games and wait to apply a finish to good build up play from his team-mates. Same thing with Neymar.Neither of those players link the midfield and attack for their team like Hazard does for us, Fabregas was spot on of his analysis of him when he said he's our Messi minus the 50 goals. Almost every goal that we've scored comes from Hazard building it up. I genuinely believe we'll be a worse team if we swapped him for either Bale or Neymar and Real and Barca will be better teams with him. Eden can improve his shooting technique though, there's no doubt Bale is ahead of him in this regard. Bale is a fantastic player. But for a top player, his technique (bar his shooting) and intelligence isn't the best. And he is not the player for other talented players to be compared to.Besides, Hazard is better imo. But that's just me. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Hazard is already a great player and the best player in the premier league alongside Aguero when he's in the mood. He's still only 23. This is what Hazard needs to work on to take his game to the level of Messi and Ronaldo. Like Mourinho said, "he has the legs to go there", if he can do the extra hours to work on his finishing then I personally believe he can become an all time great player. His peak is extremely high if he applies himself in the right way.http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/video/videoid=2166528.html?autoplay=truePower, placement, curlers, chips..... These are not innate qualities, like say, Messi/Hazard's close control. The finishing technique doesn't even have to be as advanced as Messi's is. It just has to be good enough. Right now, it isn't and that's his biggest weakness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Yep. Reus has to be the target this summer. Like Eden he can play any of the three positions behind the striker. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Bale is a donkey. Hazard is clearly a class above, put him in that Madrid team and he would score just as much. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 All this babysitters should get their perspective right. Hazard missed a clear chance and people go back to oscar or drogba should have done this or that in that case hazard should also have created chances for drogba and oscar but no because hazard doesn't know clever runs like the so called shitty schurrle neither does he have his finishing ability. Its better he scores when he gets his chance than all this dribbles with little direct goal impact. He played really well for me but to some he was threatening without being a threat just take for example Dimaria and cesc had more impact by creating goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafc9010 224 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Bale is a donkey. Hazard is clearly a class above, put him in that Madrid team and he would score just as much.The other way around I'm afrain, Eden needs to step it up big time.Although I disagree with his role given by Mouriniho. He is way too wide and deep most of the time to affect the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Blimey. Reading some of the posts in the last few pages is just Anyway, may I know where has this Hazard come from? It feels almost we have switched an imposter with the real one. He has been a real delight to watch this season and absolutely happy that he played well against United. Worked hard offensively and defensively and liked the way he wanted to influential going forward. His performances are getting better and better and he's becoming more consistent. Loving and enjoying every bit of it! pHaRaOn and ZOS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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