🇧🇪 Eden Hazard

[FabHazard 655]

He will be much better in a possession based system...we need to have the ball for him to be effective..

[Shaan 263]

Wtf Eden? wandering around in their kit when our side have just lost on an important CL night against them,not funny :rant:

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Needs to be more arrogant in his play, there was a 2 on 2 situation where we broke and he tried to pass instead of driving in and shooting.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Bullshit. It's not like Eden and Oscar did not have to track back last year. It's just that when we have the ball, if we can't counter-attack quickly, we are clueless.

I agree with your latter statement, but still that doesn't exclude my point... Hazard was poor in the second half because we lost grasp of the midfield because we weren't pressing high anymore and our intensity dropped a lot. We dropped our wingers back, they both defended deeply... And because there was no intensity in our counter attack from any of the front four in the second half (like we wanted to just go home with the 1-1/2-1 instead of trying to kill the tie off, wrong approach from the team), Eden was anonymous.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

The thing is opposition teams now understand how to stop us,Put 3 men on Eden and we cant do shit.Thats how much we are dependent on Hazard.Players like Willian and Oscar are in the team more because of their pressing and defensive ability rather then their offensive prowess which has become very frustrating for me.Having a competent striker alone wont solve all our problems because we need the likes of Oscar,Willian and Schurrle to stand up and take the load of Eden also having more dynamic fullbacks wont be bad.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

The thing is opposition teams now understand how to stop us,Put 3 men on Eden and we cant do shit.Thats how much we are dependent on Hazard.Players like Willian and Oscar are in the team more because of their pressing and defensive ability rather then their offensive prowess which has become very frustrating for me.Having a competent striker alone wont solve all our problems because we need the likes of Oscar,Willian and Schurrle to stand up and take the load of Eden also having more dynamic fullbacks wont be bad.

Though I agree with you that Eden's teammates need to improve and step up, having three players covering Eden is not a bad thing. It means three players are going to be out of position (or atleast two) and there is space that they left and we should take that to our advantage. But yes like you said it requires Willian, Oscar, Schurrle to step up and ofcourse Eto and the strikers.

[Special Juan 28,141]

He plays alongside an average Eto'o or a crap Torres or a very poor Demba Ba.....he is also flanked by a very under-performing Oscar, an in and out Willian and Schurrle who is in and out both of form and the team.

T.E.A.M....means this

Together Everyone Achieves More

[yuvala 2,167]

The thing is opposition teams now understand how to stop us,Put 3 men on Eden and we cant do shit.Thats how much we are dependent on Hazard.Players like Willian and Oscar are in the team more because of their pressing and defensive ability rather then their offensive prowess which has become very frustrating for me.Having a competent striker alone wont solve all our problems because we need the likes of Oscar,Willian and Schurrle to stand up and take the load of Eden also having more dynamic fullbacks wont be bad.

Yea.. No one can create anything except for Hazard. get 3 players to mark him and we're dead in the water.

It's been pretty clear to me that except for the fact that Oscar and Willian are not really good enough yet, our system and our lack of attacking full-backs are a HUGE problem and have a big impact on our game (bad impact, ofc).

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Though I agree with you that Eden's teammates need to improve and step up, having three players covering Eden is not a bad thing. It means three players are going to be out of position (or atleast two) and there is space that they left and we should take that to our advantage. But yes like you said it requires Willian, Oscar, Schurrle to step up and ofcourse Eto and the strikers.

Ofcourse It's a good thing that 3 players of the opposition are worried about just one of our player and we all know Hazard in full form can dominate even while being triple marked but our problem is that the rest of our attacking players are not on the same wavelength as Eden and dont make use of the space they will get.It's a big problem.

Yea.. No one can create anything except for Hazard. get 3 players to mark him and we're dead in the water.

It's been pretty clear to me that except for the fact that Oscar and Willian are not really good enough yet, our system and our lack of attacking full-backs are a HUGE problem and have a big impact on our game (bad impact, ofc).

The thing is people are quick to criticize Hazard by using the likes of Ronaldo and Messi's consistency as an example.There are however two problems with that a)Messi and Ronaldo are ruthless and merciless freaks of nature b)Even though Messi and Ronaldo are out of this world and none of the current young stars(Gotze,Eden,Neymar) look like they will be reaching their level anytime soon,They still have an amazing nay World class supporting cast.I mean Messi plays with Iniesta,Xavi,Neymar,Sanchez,Busquets,Pedro,Alves while Ronaldo has Di Maria,Benzema,Bale,Alonso,Marcelo,Luka fucking Modric,Isco.While do you know who Hazard is playing with?Ramires and Fucking Torres yet people still expect miracles from him.Eto'o and Mata are two players with great intelligence and technique and Hazard wasnt too bad with them now was he?

[Henrique 9,133]

Needs to be more arrogant in his play, there was a 2 on 2 situation where we broke and he tried to pass instead of driving in and shooting.

and there was a situation where he had to pass but instead tried a stupid shoot that was easily blocked by a PSG defender.

Its about decisions making, its not a matter of being more or less selfish.

[Strike 7,490]

Hazard is more of creator like Iniesta, not forward like Ronaldo/Messi. Nobody to create for at the moment

[Henrique 9,133]

Ofcourse It's a good thing that 3 players of the opposition are worried about just one of our player and we all know Hazard in full form can dominate even while being triple marked but our problem is that the rest of our attacking players are not on the same wavelength as Eden and dont make use of the space they will get.It's a big problem.

The thing is people are quick to criticize Hazard by using the likes of Ronaldo and Messi's consistency as an example.There are however two problems with that a)Messi and Ronaldo are ruthless and merciless freaks of nature b)Even though Messi and Ronaldo are out of this world and none of the current young stars(Gotze,Eden,Neymar) look like they will be reaching their level anytime soon,They still have an amazing nay World class supporting cast.I mean Messi plays with Iniesta,Xavi,Neymar,Sanchez,Busquets,Pedro,Alves while Ronaldo has Di Maria,Benzema,Bale,Alonso,Marcelo,Luka fucking Modric,Isco.While do you know who Hazard is playing with?Ramires and Fucking Torres yet people still expect miracles from him.Eto'o and Mata are two players with great intelligence and technique and Hazard wasnt too bad with them now was he?

I think such thing happen because some people are quick to put Hazard in a level he is not yet. Hazard is a inconsistent player, who plays great in some matches but disappear in others, and its clear he is one of the players Mourinho was referring to.

When the team was on fire, people were saying Hazard was the reason why we were winning, but when the team is underperforming and Hazard is disappearing, some people quickly remember that football is collective game.

Someone said Liverpool fans were idiots because they believe Sturridge is better than Hazard, but comparing both for me is far from a madness. Specially when we realize Sturridge has better stats. For me thats Hazard level at this moment. He is more Sturridge than Ronaldo, in terms of his level.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I prefered him under Benitez.

Oscar was also better under Benitez.

There's no pattern in how to break defences.

Look at his Real Madrid team last year against Manchester United who was just sitting, putting no pressure on Real Madrid Players and all they were doing was passing sideways in front of them waiting for a Manchester United error. No team play and quick rehearsed movements to stretch and put real pressure on them.

Real Madrid are also playing better this year.

Mourinho I think is not that great for players that would play best in a spanish possession team with quick combinations and passes.

This year it's the same high and low that he had at Lille. He was much more consistent the last 3-4 months under Benitez.

I hate the low line of our defence, the slow passing between our defenders and midfielders.

Partly agree on that. As much we are better defending, we are average in attack. No runs in free spaces, no creativty, no pattern, no passing triangles, no one-twos. Fullbacks not joining in attacks...

Mou needs to at least try something about that. If we play counter football it doesnt mean we have to play with such lack of technique.

Look at Bvb last year counter football. Their attacks were joy to watch. Everyone invloving in attacks, defending. Trying to pass, create spaces, make intelligent runs and passes.

It takes time though for such play and Mou will have to show it next year.

[Barbara 15,149]

The way some supporters talk as if we're just one striker away is nuts. We have deeper issues than just a striker.

I think many people actually believe that we only missed a striker to win EPL which I don't think is farfetched. Then we could have killed a few matches we created chances but didn't convert them and ended up dropping points.

It doesn't mean though that we only miss a striker. We need more but a decent striker could have prevented us from dropping those points. Then we'd still be top of the table. Different discussions altogether

[haranr 485]

Eden was brilliant, best player on the pitch in the first half. Second half??// WTFFFF?????????? I mean he must be more consistent but everyone were shit so.....

[Eligius 121]

Jallet was better than hazard last night.

The weakest link in PSG. Hazard allowed him to get behind him so many times. Imagine had Van der weil played how many times he would of been exposed.

It was similar to when Ozil played and got subbed off because the fullbacks kept attacking Ozil side.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

I think such thing happen because some people are quick to put Hazard in a level he is not yet. Hazard is a inconsistent player, who plays great in some matches but disappear in others, and its clear he is one of the players Mourinho was referring to.

When the team was on fire, people were saying Hazard was the reason why we were winning, but when the team is underperforming and Hazard is disappearing, some people quickly remember that football is collective game.

Someone said Liverpool fans were idiots because they believe Sturridge is better than Hazard, but comparing both for me is far from a madness. Specially when we realize Sturridge has better stats. For me thats Hazard level at this moment. He is more Sturridge than Ronaldo, in terms of his level.

People talk about him dissapearing out of games but it's pretty difficult to influence the game as an attacking player when you don't have the ball. Only have to look at the second half against PSG. Also how is it that he's constantly getting marked by 3 players yet is still able to be our most dangerous player ?

Also somehow manages to be the player, in all 5 top competitions, with the most chances created and our lead goalscorer and assister. Pretty good for an inconsistent player.

Lol Sturridge. Sturridge plays in a team that dominates possesion where he constantly gets support and he's playing alongside the best striker in the PL.

[LukakutoStamford 779]

I keep going back to the idea of what Hazard would be like if he played for Real or Barca and things start to get scary. It's not to say he can't be superstar player but he hasn't shown the ability to be consistently dominant game in and game out..

You put him on Madrid or Barca and his assist total would be about 20-25 right now. It's bordering on sickening in regard to how many glorious passes/crosses have been fluffed by Chelsea's shambolic strike force, and I'm not even getting into the poor/non-existent runs that are being made or the necessary runs that aren't being made.

He's creating the most chances of any of the top players in the world yet his goal and assist numbers while quite good don't accurately reflect how good he has been.

That being said he needs to be more selfish, he needs to spend the entire summer working on his finishing, and he needs to find a way to force his influence on a game.

It's almost a case of him being too good at times and the others can't assimilate those ideas into their games.

[duo11bluecl 207]

I keep going back to the idea of what Hazard would be like if he played for Real or Barca and things start to get scary. It's not to say he can't be superstar player but he hasn't shown the ability to be consistently dominant game in and game out..

You put him on Madrid or Barca and his assist total would be about 20-25 right now. It's bordering on sickening in regard to how many glorious passes/crosses have been fluffed by Chelsea's shambolic strike force, and I'm not even getting into the poor/non-existent runs that are being made or the necessary runs that aren't being made.

He's creating the most chances of any of the top players in the world yet his goal and assist numbers while quite good don't accurately reflect how good he has been.

That being said he needs to be more selfish, he needs to spend the entire summer working on his finishing, and he needs to find a way to force his influence on a game.

It's almost a case of him being too good at times and the others can't assimilate those ideas into their games.

You know it never works that way, just because you have Hazard on the left, CR7 up top, Di Maria in the middle and Bale on the right it means it will be fluid unstoppable football. It doesn't work like that, there will ALWAYS be teams out there who will find a way to stop them, always. No one, no matter how many good players in the team can become unbeatable. And since they are practically pissing over 17 others BBVA teams anyway, he will be signed for the CL only. Now the question is if Madrid or whoever comes up with £100-£150m for him, can we refuse? No.

So I think he might as well stay here if he wants to become a legend one day(potential) or go to play for that 'dream club' and just become another Bale. Yh it is good he will probably win league titles every 2-3 years but so what? is this worth it and just be a 'part' of it or would you want to be the STAR of the team? Also if you put Ba in Barca team now he would also be on around 20 goals right now, the amount of tapping in for Barca/Madrid are insane because BBVA isa joke of a defense for most teams.

[LukakutoStamford 779]

You know it never works that way, just because you have Hazard on the left, CR7 up top, Di Maria in the middle and Bale on the right it means it will be fluid unstoppable football. It doesn't work like that, there will ALWAYS be teams out there who will find a way to stop them, always. No one, no matter how many good players in the team can become unbeatable. And since they are practically pissing over 17 others BBVA teams anyway, he will be signed for the CL only. Now the question is if Madrid or whoever comes up with £100-£150m for him, can we refuse? No.

So I think he might as well stay here if he wants to become a legend one day(potential) or go to play for that 'dream club' and just become another Bale. Yh it is good he will probably win league titles every 2-3 years but so what? is this worth it and just be a 'part' of it or would you want to be the STAR of the team? Also if you put Ba in Barca team now he would also be on around 20 goals right now, the amount of tapping in for Barca/Madrid are insane because BBVA isa joke of a defense for most teams.

Oh I didn't mean it like that. I just mean that Hazard needs some players on his level who are capable of understanding his brialliance and who can play an extremely high technical level of football, and because that isn't the case his goals and assist numbers are lower than they should be.

I want him to stay at Chelsea I was just suggesting that if he had a stronger supporting cast his numbers (goals and assists) would be much better.

He needs a couple of guys who can play the 1-2s but also make the strong runs and draw defenders away.

Right now the other teams can afford to double and triple team him becuse other Chelsea players aren't creating enough to draw defenders away from Hazard.