🇧🇪 Eden Hazard

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

9 minutes ago, El P. said:

First half was just Messi-esque. Best player Chelsea ever had, I think.

It's unbelievable what a chance we are having for years now, to build squad around this little magician. And we are doing nothing. Just add something here and there, and we did fucking nothing.

I would trade last season's league title for much better last summer window, with likes of Sandro, Griezmann etc. coming in. I am sure that would convince him to stay. I mean, when he leaves us, that 2017 title will be our last title for years and years to come.

We need a miracle transfer window to keep him at the club, IMO.

This is the scariest part and further proves how utterly insane our board is. As I stated above, if I was him I'm out of the door at the end of the season. Club's ambition clearly doesn't match his at this point. 

[Blusan Alamb 295]

 

[Georgy 439]

4 minutes ago, Blusan Alamb said:

 

Won't feel one second gutted if he leaves. Deserves to play with better teammates.

[Blusan Alamb 295]

 

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/blog/the-match/60/post/3282691/willian-saves-chelsea-as-mohamed-salah-stars-again-for-liverpool

Mark Ogden for ESPN. I'm glad not only the fans of the club see this. 

 Hazard too good for his teammates

Such has been Manchester City's dominance of the Premier League so far this season, it would be a challenge to find an outfield player from any of the other 19 top-flight clubs capable of breaking into the team of the year as the campaign approaches its halfway stage.

But Eden Hazard would have as good a claim as anyone, with the Chelsea midfielder showing his outstanding quality once again.

Chelsea's last two title triumphs have been inspired by their Belgian No. 10 and, at times against Liverpool at Anfield, he was almost unplayable.

In the first half, Hazard dominated the game after being allowed to roam freely by the home side.

Last season, Jose Mourinho deployed Ander Herrera to man-mark Hazard out of the game in Chelsea's 2-0 defeat at Manchester United, but Klopp took the opposite approach, and it nearly cost Liverpool dearly.

Hazard was able to find time and space, and he stung the fingers of Liverpool keeper Mignolet after creating an early opportunity. He also unlocked the door for teammates such as Danny Drinkwater and Alvaro Morata to score, but neither were able to take advantage.

Liverpool eventually grew wise to Hazard's threat, with Joel Matip and Joe Gomez shadowing him much more closely in the second half. But every time Hazard had the ball, he was a danger. The only problem for Chelsea was that not enough of his teammates were on the same wavelength.

[El P. 1,354]

Also... I think Conte is one very smart man. He is seeing this, I believe more than us. He knows Eden needs better players around him. I just hope he could manipulate our board and convince them to invest in better players.

He is not just some pragmatic manager... He was always saying that "we are building something very important for the future". Well, I am sure he is counting on Hazard for that future too, a lot. If anyone can do something about Hazard staying, it's Antonio Conte.

Hope is still here, and we shouldn't give up until the end... Getting over him would be too hard for anyone related to CFC. Actually, it would be diametrical opposite feeling of winning the UCL 2012. We launched ourselves at stars that year. With him leaving, we are just going back to mediocrity.

[manpe 10,861]

1 minute ago, El P. said:

Also... I think Conte is one very smart man. He is seeing this, I believe more than us. He knows Eden needs better players around him. I just hope he could manipulate our board and convince them to invest in better players.

He is not just some pragmatic manager... He was always saying that "we are building something very important for the future". Well, I am sure he is counting on Hazard for that future too, a lot. If anyone can do something about Hazard staying, it's Antonio Conte.

Hope is still here, and we shouldn't give up until the end... Getting over him would be too hard for anyone related to CFC. Actually, it would be diametrical opposite feeling of winning the UCL 2012. We launched ourselves at stars that year. With him leaving, we are just going back to mediocrity.

You know, there is actually a high possibility of losing BOTH - Conte and Hazard. I don't even want to imagine what we become without them, top 4 could become our new title for years to come.

[El P. 1,354]

4 minutes ago, manpe said:

You know, there is actually a high possibility of losing BOTH - Conte and Hazard. I don't even want to imagine what we become without them, top 4 could become our new title for years to come.

Nah, I think Conte will stay for 3 years. We were never stable about our managers, but I don't know... He is just handling everything so well. I don't believe they would sack him. And I think he would like to stay at least for 3 years, signed in contract.

EDIT: If he leaves after 3 years, I think he will leave club in better state than it is in now.

[Jase 43,479]

I get that Hazard deserves and should be playing with better quality players but why on earth do people have to keep on bringing this up EVERY SINGLE TIME after we don't win a big game?! Christ!

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

22 minutes ago, El P. said:

Nah, I think Conte will stay for 3 years. We were never stable about our managers, but I don't know... He is just handling everything so well. I don't believe they would sack him. And I think he would like to stay at least for 3 years, signed in contract.

EDIT: If he leaves after 3 years, I think he will leave club in better state than it is in now.

His contract ends in 2019 mate. The new contract he signed strangely enough didn't extend his current one. Like @manpe I can definitely envision a scenario where we lose Conte and Hazard next season with Courtois to follow. It's telling how silent talks of a new contract has become. All of them sense it.

That the club is now totally lacking in ambition. I documented it in Conte's thread how our net spend in the last few years has been below Arsenal's, Liverpool's and miles behind the Manchester clubs.

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

I get that Hazard deserves and should be playing with better quality players but why on earth do people have to keep on bringing this up EVERY SINGLE TIME after we don't win a big game?! Christ!

The reason is the big games make that fact become glaringly obvious. In the big games certain CFC players are exposed as not being of the required standard to consistently win league titles and  especially to compete for CL honors. And after years of repeating the same thing every summer, our board has done nothing.

[El P. 1,354]

1 minute ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

His contract ends in 2019 mate. The new contract he signed strangely enough didn't extend his current one. Like @manpe I can definitely envision a scenario where we lose Conte and Hazard next season with Courtois to follow. It's telling how silent talks of a new contract has become. All of them sense it.

That the club is now totally lacking in ambition. I documented it in Conte's thread how our net spend in the last few years has been below Arsenal's, Liverpool's and miles behind the Manchester clubs.

I know. But until summer 2019 could be enough to make things better around here, that's what I'm saying.

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

His contract ends in 2019 mate. The new contract he signed strangely enough didn't extend his current one

His contract expires in 2020.

2 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

The reason is the big games make that fact become glaringly obvious. In the big games certain CFC players are exposed as not being of the required standard to consistently win league titles and  especially to compete for CL honors. 

I get that but mentioning it once is fine. To keep on doing every single time is fucking annoying.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Just now, El P. said:

I know. But until summer 2019 could be enough to make things better around here, that's what I'm saying.

We'll see what happens. The good thing about Conte's job safety is he already has a ready made excuse if he wins nothng this season. 

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Just now, Jason said:

His contract expires in 2020.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/18/antonio-conte-chelsea-new-contract

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/antonio-conte/profil/trainer/3517

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, MrExcalibur100 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/18/antonio-conte-chelsea-new-contract

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/antonio-conte/profil/trainer/3517

Oops! My bad. Thought you were talking about Hazard.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

His contract expires in 2020.

I get that but mentioning it once is fine. To keep on doing every single time is fucking annoying.

There are several things on this forum I find annoying for example getting on the backs of some of our best players on the odd occassion they don't play well. (see Morata's forum). Doesn't mean I go there and mention that. If you don't like the comments, ignore them. Simple!

[El P. 1,354]

9 minutes ago, Jason said:

I get that Hazard deserves and should be playing with better quality players but why on earth do people have to keep on bringing this up EVERY SINGLE TIME after we don't win a big game?! Christ!

Well, in this game it was obvious that he have done great work and if there were better players around him, we would've beaten Liverpool at Anfield. Also, our time with Eden's patience is running out.

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I just wish there was something that we, fans, could do about it.

[Jase 43,479]

5 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

There are several things on this forum I find annoying for example getting on the backs of some of our best players on the odd occassion they don't play well. (see Morata's forum).

Discussing a more subjective issue like players' performances is less annoying...

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

He is on several levels ahead of others...

For example that action with Zappacosta when he passed to him and was perfectly waiting in the box for Zappa to pass to him back, but that dude tried to cross which resulted in block.

Im sure its frustrating for him sometimes, hopefuly we buy quality player next to him and hopefuly he stays.