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[Rahul Haque 57]

Top 4 finish, and 3 trophies (Community Shield, European Super Cup, Club World Cup) would be great. Even better if we win a quintuple of cups (throw in the Carling and FA Cups to those three).

A decent showing in Europe, where we defend our title as well as we can, say quarter finals or semi finals in addition to 3-5 trophies would be excellent. It's surreal to think we're in contention for 7 trophies next season.

Top 4 finish, and 3 trophies (Community Shield, European Super Cup, Club World Cup) would be great. Even better if we win a quintuple of cups (throw in the Carling and FA Cups to those three).

A decent showing in Europe, where we defend our title as well as we can, say quarter finals or semi finals in addition to 3-5 trophies would be excellent. It's surreal to think we're in contention for 7 trophies next season.

again with hulk and maicon- not impossible to win five if we reach our full potential (which itself is a huge doubt) but the possibilities of such a talented team would be endless. would be as good a squad as our 09 10 double winning team.

[capriccioso 2,545]

TBH who cares that much about the european super cup and club world cup. Ofc a trophy is a trophy, and ideally we would win everything. But i would swap all those 3 for an fa cup. Or even the carling cup.

It's a prestige thing. If we win the CWC we can actually say we are World Champions. Winning a trophy midseason is a nice little morale booster for the players. There's also a lot of prize money involved and the trophy itself is magnificent. That and the fact that it's something that even the best team of it's generation can only win 3-4 times a decade makes it a top priority for me.

[Strike 7,265]

completely disagree. with maicon, we have enough defensive cover. with hulk, we are a complete team even without a deep lying playmaker.

we have enough players competing for every position if we get those two

cech

ivanovic cahill terry cole

mikel lampard

hulk mata hazard

torres

turnbull

maicon ferreira luiz bertrand

essien mereiles

ramires sturridge marin

lukaku

benayoun, de bruyne, romeu, mceachran not even used

easily good enough to challenge for trophies

do not be under the impression that by adding Hazard, we will play expansive attacking football overnight and start gettin bucketloads of goals. We still need 2-3 more players to reach even top 4 level. let's face it, our build up play was beyond shit last season and all we did was dump it long to Drogba - eg - Spurs semifinal where we couldn't exert pressure and then Lampard dumped long to Drogba for the first goal. Our best football was played on the counter but you can't expect us to set up a counter attacking game against majority of the premier league teams.

it all depends on the pre-season. still optimistic that our ground passing, build up play will improve but to assume that it will improve is irrational

[Hutcho 8,443]

It's a prestige thing. If we win the CWC we can actually say we are World Champions. Winning a trophy midseason is a nice little morale booster for the players. There's also a lot of prize money involved and the trophy itself is magnificent. That and the fact that it's something that even the best team of it's generation can only win 3-4 times a decade makes it a top priority for me.

ok fair enough... your reasoning cannot be faulted.

[Rahul Haque 57]

do not be under the impression that by adding Hazard, we will play expansive attacking football overnight and start gettin bucketloads of goals. We still need 2-3 more players to reach even top 4 level. let's face it, our build up play was beyond shit last season and all we did was dump it long to Drogba - eg - Spurs semifinal where we couldn't exert pressure and then Lampard dumped long to Drogba for the first goal. Our best football was played on the counter but you can't expect us to set up a counter attacking game against majority of the premier league teams.

it all depends on the pre-season. still optimistic that our ground passing, build up play will improve but to assume that it will improve is irrational

do not be under the impression that by adding Hazard, we will play expansive attacking football overnight and start gettin bucketloads of goals. We still need 2-3 more players to reach even top 4 level. let's face it, our build up play was beyond shit last season and all we did was dump it long to Drogba - eg - Spurs semifinal where we couldn't exert pressure and then Lampard dumped long to Drogba for the first goal. Our best football was played on the counter but you can't expect us to set up a counter attacking game against majority of the premier league teams.

it all depends on the pre-season. still optimistic that our ground passing, build up play will improve but to assume that it will improve is irrational

firstly, if you have read my line up it includes the two transfers of hulk and maicon..that's two world class players

and if you still disagree then i have to disagree with you because the first team has the trio of 'hulk mata hazard' supplying torres. it would be ridiculous to expect anything but expansive football from such an attacking trio. none of them like to defend.

[capriccioso 2,545]

If we win all 7, we can claim we're better than Barcelona 2008/09, as they only won 6

We'll just brush under the carpet that both of us had 100% success rates.

[Strike 7,265]

In my eyes, I see it like this

Current team (with the new additions of Hazard, De Bryune, Marin): Top 4, no higher than 3rd.

Addition of Maicon: Top 3, closer to 2nd than to 4th.

Addition of Hulk & Maicon: Top 2, challenge/perhaps win the title.

Addition of Hulk, Maicon & a Regista: Favourites to win the title, final of the UCL/perhaps winning it.

final of UCL is not an expectation for any team. Real Madrid and Barca even. Look at what happened last season. Real Madrid had a perfectly good team and did little wrong but were dumped out in a shootout. any team needs a huge slice of luck to reach the CL final and u can't just expect luck to go your way

[Hutcho 8,443]

do not be under the impression that by adding Hazard, we will play expansive attacking football overnight and start gettin bucketloads of goals. We still need 2-3 more players to reach even top 4 level. let's face it, our build up play was beyond shit last season and all we did was dump it long to Drogba - eg - Spurs semifinal where we couldn't exert pressure and then Lampard dumped long to Drogba for the first goal. Our best football was played on the counter but you can't expect us to set up a counter attacking game against majority of the premier league teams.

it all depends on the pre-season. still optimistic that our ground passing, build up play will improve but to assume that it will improve is irrational

i completely disagree. We dont need 2-3 players to reach top 4 level. We are top 4 level. We were pretty bad in the early part of the season and we were still only 5 points behind.

[Kojo 4,676]

TBH who cares that much about the european super cup and club world cup. Ofc a trophy is a trophy, and ideally we would win everything. But i would swap all those 3 for an fa cup. Or even the carling cup.

Stop right there.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

final of UCL is not an expectation for any team. Real Madrid and Barca even. Look at what happened last season. Real Madrid had a perfectly good team and did little wrong but were dumped out in a shootout. any team needs a huge slice of luck to reach the CL final and u can't just expect luck to go your way

Fair enough, but assuming we're not on the end of some badluck I'd expect us to go very deep into it.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Stop right there.

Would you rather have the club world cup or FA cup?

For me i would rather have FA cup as in its not even close.

[Rahul Haque 57]

i completely disagree. We dont need 2-3 players to reach top 4 level. We are top 4 level. We were pretty bad in the early part of the season and we were still only 5 points behind.

we need 2 players to be title challengers as i've said so many times imo. maicon and hulk. the central midfield will be of less effect as all our central midfield players are intelligent enough to play a certain role and lampard is still world class just not consistent enough. the attacking responsibilities will move on to hulk, hazard, mata, torres etc..sturridge off the bench.

it's a wicked looking team if hulk and maicon does join. sexy team.

[Strike 7,265]

what kind of joke is this? fuucking spuds trying to compete with us for players? LOOOOL

just wrap this deal up now ffs. we DESPERATELY need a forward.

moses is NOT good enough. we are chelsea ffs not west brom.

. we are improving our bench strength. any good team should have direct pacy attackers on the bench to add that bit of flair to the team and moses is very direct with his play. moreover, we have an extremely long season and we can't fill the squad with Hulks

[Kojo 4,676]

Would you rather have the club world cup or FA cup?

For me i would rather have FA cup as in its not even close.

All in all, i honestly wouldn't. We are automatically in the F.A Cup every season no matter what, Club World Cup is the hardest competition to get into in the world (if your club is in europe). It's also a great honour to have. The prestige of the cup will be huge in many years time and we can look back over and say we have that cup!. And Liverpool don't have it either, so that makes it even better to get if we can win it.

If i was to pick out of this trophy and F.A Cup next season, it would be Club world cup, and remember Guardiola has cried the longest out of any sportsman in the world after he won this cup. And he's won the Champions League twice.

[Hutcho 8,443]

The liverpool argument works, but still, i think the FA cup is a much bigger honour of achievment than the club world cup. As you already have the champions league which is the greaest achievment. The FA CUP is harder to win than the club world cup, as the best teams arn't in the club world cup.

[Rahul Haque 57]

by your logic, mid-table Premship players are not meant to be signed by top teams? Valencia, Young, arteta, phil jones, chris smalling etc... manu have got it right over the years by investing in players settled into the premier league while we have brought in the likes of Quaresma, Zhirkov etc for nothing in return

Moses is a very smart deal.. we are improving our bench strength. any good team should have direct pacy attackers on the bench to add that bit of flair to the team and moses is very direct with his play. moreover, we have an extremely long season and we can't fill the squad with Hulks

by your logic, mid-table Premship players are not meant to be signed by top teams? Valencia, Young, arteta, phil jones, chris smalling etc... manu have got it right over the years by investing in players settled into the premier league while we have brought in the likes of Quaresma, Zhirkov etc for nothing in return

Moses is a very smart deal.. we are improving our bench strength. any good team should have direct pacy attackers on the bench to add that bit of flair to the team and moses is very direct with his play. moreover, we have an extremely long season and we can't fill the squad with Hulks

well with hulk's case i disagree. moses will be a squad player and if he shows form, he will get his chance but we already have lukaku, de bruyne, marin and sturridge for this role. we don't need anymore. we need someone that will put us alongside city as the main contender and that man is hulk..if it isn't hulk, then it has to be a jovetic or some other forward that's proven.

[Strike 7,265]

we need 2 players to be title challengers as i've said so many times imo. maicon and hulk. the central midfield will be of less effect as all our central midfield players are intelligent enough to play a certain role and lampard is still world class just not consistent enough. the attacking responsibilities will move on to hulk, hazard, mata, torres etc..sturridge off the bench.

it's a wicked looking team if hulk and maicon does join. sexy team.

i completely disagree. We dont need 2-3 players to reach top 4 level. We are top 4 level. We were pretty bad in the early part of the season and we were still only 5 points behind.

our build up play HAS to improve. its something like england. we need to retain the ball better. the direct attacking is there but the ball retention in key phases is missing, with a team like that (hazard, hulk, torres etc) our direct attacking will improve but we will still go into that backs to the wall mode if we don't change the system and don't retain the ball better. football is not played on paper. even with hulk, hazard, torres we can't expect chelsea to knock every team out of the park. to be fair, torres has done shit in a Blue shirt. but as Chelsea fans we are overlooking it in the hope of a better future and the Hulk deal has gone cold but assuming he does come, we will still have the same old problems of our build up

[Strike 7,265]

well with hulk's case i disagree. moses will be a squad player and if he shows form, he will get his chance but we already have lukaku, de bruyne, marin and sturridge for this role. we don't need anymore. we need someone that will put us alongside city as the main contender and that man is hulk..if it isn't hulk, then it has to be a jovetic or some other forward that's proven.

u got me wrong there. i am Pro Hulk as well (decent price) but unlike you i am not against Moses.