Roman Abramovich Thread

[Superblue 6,372]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

all this is why I desperately wanted one the truly giant (100 billion+ usd) players to just bigfoot everyone else 

none of these would give a fuck about dropping an extra billion or so on top to sort the Bridge

Elon Musk
Jeff Bezos
Bernard Arnault (only non yank)
Bill Gates
Larry Page (Google)
Sergey Brin (Google)
Larry Ellison
Steve Ballmer

OR

the only crazy rich royal family left who is not into football ownership

(and they are MASSIVE, only 2nd to the Saudis in wealth, they are worth around £400 billion or so atm, above the Qataris and the UAE (no one else is close to those 4 unless you count the Vatican, lolol) and they have the 2nd cleanest (not great but hey it's the despotic ME) human rights record in the ME, after the not so rich Omanis)

the Kuwaitis

to buy us

Unfortunately if it was going to happen one of them would have already stepped in by now.

[Vesper 30,083]

1 minute ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I struggle to see how the bids will start to suddenly reduce downwards. In particular Boehly looked at buying Chelsea a few years back so will have done a lot of due diligence beyond the last few weeks, and Broughton is a lifelong Chelsea fan. I would expect both to already know the complications and complexities surrounding Stamford Bridge. Similarly if either bid had the idea of simply moving the club to a new site then again I'm sure in both instances they were well aware of the CPO.

Ironically though both of these bids seem to suggest that their preference is to renovate the stadium stand by stand (not sure with the Pagliuca bid) and if there are ways and means of doing this then I would expect this to actually be a far cheaper and cost effective solution to either rebuilding at the Bridge or buying and building on a new site. The key here will be if this is possible. A couple of things I've read and heard is that Goldstein in the Boehly bid could be critical here and could well be the ace up his sleeve as he has far more influence, contacts and expertise within the construction and property industries than the other bids.

Regarding the bit about George Osbourne/Rishi Sunak I struggle to believe this, simply because the Government seem to have gone to lengths to distance themselves from the process and don't want to be held accountable for any of it. I think any of the 3 bids will be accepted by the Government without a hitch so long as it's proven the money isn't being backhanded to Roman and is instead going into a frozen account or whatever.

And I'm in no way against the Broughton bid but it appears to be American financed like the others. What's this "great and good of Britain" rubbish? Or is this the British media slant on it because media darlings like Seb Coe and Lewis Hamilton are named within the bid?!

Broughton should ditch the yanks Josh Harris and Dave Blitzer and bring in the 2 Brits, Michael Platt and Nick Candy (worth around 21 billion usd combined)

Boehly screwed up Candy coming in by using lifetime spuds fan Jonathan Goldstein

 

[Vesper 30,083]

10 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Unfortunately if it was going to happen one of them would have already stepped in by now.

yes, for sure

but I still am gobsmacked the Kuwaitis did not do a serious public sniff around

mind blowing

it was their big chance

wtf good is it to have over half a trillion or so USD in wealth and not use it to play in the biggest sport on the planet (and one that all their Arabian peninsula neighbours are deep into, save for the fairly 'poor' Omanis, and the shitshow that is Yemen)

[Superblue 6,372]

14 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Broughton should ditch the yanks Josh Harris and Dave Blitzer and bring in the 2 Brits, Michael Platt and Nick Candy (worth around 21 billion usd combined)

Boehly screwed up Candy coming in by using lifetime spuds fan Jonathan Goldstein

 

I struggle myself to see any huge positives that Candy can add to these bids.

[Blue Armour 4,436]

48 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

 What's this "great and good of Britain" rubbish? Or is this the British media slant on it because media darlings like Seb Coe and Lewis Hamilton are named within the bid?!

Which is why I'm also taking this article with a huge grain of salt. It is the Mail after all.

I also doubt that the bidders would grow cold feet at this late stage. Like you said, the would have been well aware of what is needed to renovate the stadium for a while now.

[Vesper 30,083]

3 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I struggle myself to see any huge positives that Candy can add to these bids.

he strikes me as someone who truly wants the club to be dominant and he demands first class shit in all his endeavours

he is a hardcore Chels fan

I just got a good vibe from him, and liked how he ripped the spuds fanboi Goldstein

dunno

[Vesper 30,083]

Just now, Vesper said:

he strikes me as someone who truly wants the club to be dominant and he demands first class shit in all his endeavours

he is a hardcore Chels fan

I just got a good vibe from him, and liked how he ripped the spuds fanboi Goldstein

dunno

My father wanted Candy to get in with the Centricus bid (Centricus’ co-founder Nizar Al-Bassam, CEO Garth Ritchie, Jonathan Lourie of Cheyne Capital, and Talis Capital’s Bob Finch)

all 5 are lifetime Chels fans, season ticket holders, and combined are worth over £25 billion in net wealth, with more than double that in funds managed as well

the bid would have been all cash, plus they wanted to do a complete ground up renovation of Bridge, like Roman was going to do (yes I know the logistics are hard)

 

[Vesper 30,083]

I know it was posted already

but seriously

WTF is up with this??

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But concerns have arisen over the Boehly bid bringing in former chancellor George Osborne, a noted Chelsea fan. Given that current chancellor Rishi Sunak is understood to be playing a key role in determining the winning bid, the inclusion of Osborne is looking wrong-headed, according to close observers. 

'How will Rishi Sunak, who's making the decision, feel about the inclusion of the ex-chancellor? It doesn't look good compared to the alternative, a diverse ownership group with the great and the good of Britain on board,' said a source.

Even if one of the groups is successful, Roman Abramovich may yet decide not to sell to a bidder from the US or the UK.

 

that is some dodgy speculative trash reporting from the Daily Heil

and the Broughton group is relying on 2 YANK hedge fund/private equity hyenas

so how the fuck can they say:

It (Boehly group) doesn't look good compared to the alternative, a diverse ownership group with the great and the good of Britain on board

gaslighting deluxe

 

Lets look at Broughton's group

Brits

Broughton (figurehead, not remotely close to a billionaire, I would be shocked if he was worth more than £20m)

Lord Coe (figurehead, same for net worth, around £40m, 50m max)

Lewis Hamilton (eye candy, net worth is around £250m) he is investing £10m

 

The True Blue consortium, headed by former Chelsea captain John Terry, has endorsed Stephen Pagliuca's bid for the club.

 

Non Brits

Serena Williams (eye candy, net worth is £200m or so max) she is investing £10m

The two yanks, Josh Harris (net worth around £4.5 billion) and Dave Blitzer (net worth of around £1 billion from all I can see), would hold a controlling stake in Chelsea - although they will need to divest their minority shareholding in Crystal Palace prior to completing a deal.

and then a slew of more non Brits

The Broughton-led group's other investors include:

Canada's Rogers family (£10-15 billion net worth, BUT that is all split up, and there is a HUGE legal fight going on for control of Rogers Communications), which holds a big interest in the media and telecoms company Rogers Communications;

American John Arnold (net worth £2.5 billion), who chaired the Houston 2026 FIFA World Cup bid committee (former ENRON executive, wtf!)

Taiwan's Tsai family which owns the Taipei Fubon Braves and Fubon Guardians baseball teams (no idea what their combined net worth is, it is likely over £15 to £20 billion, so the wealthiest here, BUT who exactly is involved???, as the wealth is all split up) 

Colombian/American Alejandro Santo Domingo (around £2 billion net worth), an heir to one of the world's biggest brewing fortunes and an investor in several North American sports franchises, is also investing in the bid

 

so NO

this is NOT a 'best of Britain' bid, that is all bollocks

from what I see, almost all the money is NON BRITISH

 

and finally

wtf

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Even if one of the groups is successful, Roman Abramovich may yet decide not to sell to a bidder from the US or the UK.

are you fucking having a laugh??????????????????????????

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Edited April 24, 2022 by Vesper

[Blue Armour 4,436]

30 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I know it was posted already

but seriously

WTF is up with this??

that is some dodgy speculative trash reporting from the Daily Heil

and the Broughton group is relying on 2 YANK hedge fund/private equity hyenas

so how the fuck can they say:

It (Boehly group) doesn't look good compared to the alternative, a diverse ownership group with the great and the good of Britain on board

gaslighting deluxe

 

Lets look at Broughton's group

Brits

Broughton (figurehead, not remotely close to a billionaire, I would be shocked if he was worth more than £20m)

Lord Coe (figurehead, same for net worth, around £40m, 50m max)

Lewis Hamilton (eye candy, net worth is around £250m) he is investing £10m

 

The True Blue consortium, headed by former Chelsea captain John Terry, has endorsed Stephen Pagliuca's bid for the club.

 

Non Brits

Serena Williams (eye candy, net worth is £200m or so max) she is investing £10m

The two yanks, Josh Harris (net worth around £4.5 billion) and Dave Blitzer (net worth of around £1 billion from all I can see), would hold a controlling stake in Chelsea - although they will need to divest their minority shareholding in Crystal Palace prior to completing a deal.

and then a slew of more non Brits

The Broughton-led group's other investors include:

Canada's Rogers family (£10-15 billion net worth, BUT that is all split up, and there is a HUGE legal fight going on for control of Rogers Communications), which holds a big interest in the media and telecoms company Rogers Communications;

American John Arnold (net worth £2.5 billion), who chaired the Houston 2026 FIFA World Cup bid committee (former ENRON executive, wtf!)

Taiwan's Tsai family (now idea what their combined net worth is, it is likely over £15 to £20 billion, so the wealthiest here, BUT who exactly is involved???, as the wealth is all split up), which owns the Taipei Fubon Braves and Fubon Guardians baseball teams

Colombian/American Alejandro Santo Domingo (around £2 billion net worth), an heir to one of the world's biggest brewing fortunes and an investor in several North American sports franchises, is also investing in the bid

 

so NO

this is NOT a 'best of Britain' bid, that is all bollocks

from what I see, almost all the money is NON BRITISH

 

and finally

wtf

are you fucking having a laugh??????????????????????????

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Yep. Those are some of the points that are making me think that this is just tabloid click bait.

A lot of envious and ill-wishing people writing and speculating about this and the Rudiger contract situation.

[Vesper 30,083]

3 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Yep. Those are some of the points that are making me think that this is just tabloid click bait.

A lot of envious and ill-wishing people writing and speculating about this and the Rudiger contract situation.

I  feel like we are being sold a pig in a poke with a lot of these bids, (many obviously no longer in the running)

I don't gave a toss about Broughton and Lord Coe's smiling English faces, or celebrity athletes like Hamilton and Williams tossing in a combined amount than would not even cover a goddamn decent RB's transfer fee

 

I REALLY want to see the hard money numbers backing it all

we did with Ricketts, and at least that bid had the transparency to say (as I predicted, and not including the political shit), whelp, we are out, as we want to make money and we cannot see doing that, so fuck it

to keep us at WC level, we will BURN money, especially until the new stadium starts to increase revenue

ffs, I so wish we had a white knight insanely rich buyer lined up (looking at you, Kuwaitis, get on the phone with Boehly or Broughton, ffs)

 

[Superblue 6,372]

9 hours ago, Vesper said:

he strikes me as someone who truly wants the club to be dominant and he demands first class shit in all his endeavours

he is a hardcore Chels fan

I just got a good vibe from him, and liked how he ripped the spuds fanboi Goldstein

dunno

I personally don't think the Chelsea fan thing holds weight because I think big decisions could easily be influenced by that.

He even said himself recently in an interview he felt Lampard was sacked too early and should have been given more time, but in hindsight bringing in Tuchel was the right move. That, for me, is the difference between someone far too emotionally invested and someone capable of stepping back and making decisions with a clear head.

I know Broughton is a lifelong Chelsea fan, but he's also had experience working within a football environment and just strikes me as someone who would be able to pull himself outside of the Chelsea bubble to make strategic decisions. 

[Norfolkblue1961 56]

never believe anything written in the Daily Mail. it is a nasty, fascist rag, they never have a good word to say about Chelsea FC