robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Nowhere good enough at this level. Squad player at best. perhaps an improvement over zouma, but that’s not too hard. Vesper and NikkiCFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 13 hours ago, Robchels said: Nowhere good enough at this level. Squad player at best. perhaps an improvement over zouma, but that’s not too hard. perfect summation of my thoughts as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, Vesper said: perfect summation of my thoughts as well And why? 1905didierblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 On 07/09/2019 at 4:19 PM, killer1257 said: And why?  he is not a WC stopper that we need TWO of, along with Rudiger, plus Ake is short (3cms shorter than me) and gets pushed around too much my dream 5 CB realistically Chels (I say realistically because we bloody will have at least a half billion quid to play with if we just dump the rest of the deadwood, so speningd £150m, 160m or so on 2 WC B's is WELL within our budget Gimenez or Romagnoli (both are superb ball players) Konate or Skriniar (hammer types, but Skriniar is going to end up at Shitty I think) Rudiger AC Ake DONE Tomori can also be the Ake, if we do not (and we will not, lol) fancy dropping £40m on a 5th CB Zouma needs to BE SOLD the minute the summer window opens he will never be good enough for us anyone that says so is a settler, and obviously doesn't have any ambition whatsoever for the club IMHO  THIS is what I mean by a WC hammer CB Ibrahima Konaté 1.93m (13 cms taller than Ake), almost 90kg, damn near as pacey as Werner, his teammate, and is only 20yo, so will get even stronger killer1257 and robsblubot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 he would make a great squad player, I would so keep him for depth, but he is not a WC stopper that we need TWO of, along with Rudiger, plus Ake is short (3cms shorter than me) and gets pushed around too much my dream 5 CB realistically Chels (I say realistically because we bloody will have at least a half billion quid to play with if we just dump the rest of the deadwood, so speningd £150m, 160m or so on 2 WC B's is WELL within our budget Gimenez or Romagnoli (both are superb ball players) Konate or Skriniar (hammer types, but Skriniar is going to end up at Shitty I think) Rudiger AC Ake DONE Tomori can also be the Ake, if we do not (and we will not, lol) fancy dropping £40m on a 5th CB Zouma needs to BE SOLD the minute the summer window opens he will never be good enough for us anyone that says so is a settler, and obviously doesn't have any ambition whatsoever for the club IMHO  THIS is what I mean by a WC hammer CB Ibrahima Konaté 1.93m (13 cms taller than Ake), almost 90kg, damn near as pacey as Werner, his teammate, and is only 20yo, so will get even stronger I would also agree that Konate is the man we need, but I highly doubt that our scouts know him. Since that Emanelo guy or whatever his Name was left, we do not buy top Class Talents. KDB, Lukaku, Salah, Courtois, Hazard etc. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, killer1257 said: I would also agree that Konate is the man we need, but I highly doubt that our scouts know him. Since that Emanelo guy or whatever his Name was left, we do not buy top Class Talents. KDB, Lukaku, Salah, Courtois, Hazard etc. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk  If they do not know of him, they should not even be scouts for Scunthorpe United. NikkiCFC and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Chelsea scout Piet de Visser has urged the club to re-sign Nathan Ake from Bournemouth. Netherlands international Ake switched from Stamford Bridge to Dean Court for £20m in 2017 having struggled to break from the academy into the Blues first team. But now that the West London club have backed their youth stars to play under Frank Lampard, De Visser believes Ake should also be there alongside them. Ahead of Chelsea’s trip to Ajax in the Champions League, he told Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant: “Ake should have played for Chelsea by now. He’s so good. “How often does he not score with his head? He has timing and insight. I hope they buy him back. That boy is perfect for them and he has played with Lampard. " 1905didierblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Yeah I would take him back. Upgrade to zouma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Fernando said: Yeah I would take him back. Upgrade to zouma. Maybe better on the ball but as a defender I dont think he is better. He is a leftie so would give nice balance in a back 4 or 3 but lets not forget how average Bournemouth are defensively and Ake isnt particularly outstanding for them either. Also Piet de Visser is Dutch and probably scouted Ake.... so ofcourse he will sing his praises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: Maybe better on the ball but as a defender I dont think he is better. He is a leftie so would give nice balance in a back 4 or 3 but lets not forget how average Bournemouth are defensively and Ake isnt particularly outstanding for them either. Also Piet de Visser is Dutch and probably scouted Ake.... so ofcourse he will sing his praises. HELL NO TO BOTH!!!!! Zouma is pretty much shit in terms of our ambition level and Ake is NOT good enough either I will go bonkers if both end up here next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 13 hours ago, the wes said: Chelsea scout Piet de Visser has urged the club to re-sign Nathan Ake from Bournemouth. Netherlands international Ake switched from Stamford Bridge to Dean Court for £20m in 2017 having struggled to break from the academy into the Blues first team. But now that the West London club have backed their youth stars to play under Frank Lampard, De Visser believes Ake should also be there alongside them. Ahead of Chelsea’s trip to Ajax in the Champions League, he told Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant: “Ake should have played for Chelsea by now. He’s so good. “How often does he not score with his head? He has timing and insight. I hope they buy him back. That boy is perfect for them and he has played with Lampard. " NO hard pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1905didierblue 748 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 If we actually sell any of our current 4 CBs (which I dont think we will), I would personally want Ake. He would be exactly the kind of ball playing CB Frank's system would require. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/11/04/chelsea-transfer-ban-hearing-date-set-frank-lampard-rubs-hands/ We can buy him back for 40 million apparently... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 would be a good deal tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I don`t think Ake is better than  Zouma , Tomori ,  especially Rudiger . Good average player but not world class like Skriniar , Koulibaly , Gimenez , Romagnoli . Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, milka said: I don`t think Ake is better than  Zouma , Tomori ,  especially Rudiger . Good average player but not world class like Skriniar , Koulibaly , Gimenez , Romagnoli . Ake is deffo an upgrade over AC though, and selling AC (Barca want him and he is perfect for them as La Liga is a pussy league where his ball skills can flourish without the brutal pounding of the EPL) will cover Ake's cost, more or less the WC CB we need to bring in (I agree with your list other than I would switch out Ibrahima Konaté for Koulibaly, as Koulibaly turns 30 in 18 months) would replace Zouma, who will be SO easy to sell for a good price, but is just not good enough for Chels Fernando and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Ake is deffo an upgrade over AC though, and selling AC (Barca want him and he is perfect for them as La Liga is a pussy league where his ball skills can flourish without the brutal pounding of the EPL) will cover Ake's cost, more or less the WC CB we need to bring in (I agree with your list other than I would switch out Ibrahima Konaté for Koulibaly, as Koulibaly turns 30 in 18 months) would replace Zouma, who will be SO easy to sell for a good price, but is just not good enough for ChelsAbout Konate. He only played 5 Matches this season and he received a big muscle injury in october and will maybe be fit starting january. According to his Trainer, his injury is not healing up that well. So maybe can take even longer.Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, killer1257 said: About Konate. He only played 5 Matches this season and he received a big muscle injury in october and will maybe be fit starting january. According to his Trainer, his injury is not healing up that well. So maybe can take even longer. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk  Then Rogmanoli it is....  Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, killer1257 said: About Konate. He only played 5 Matches this season and he received a big muscle injury in october and will maybe be fit starting january. According to his Trainer, his injury is not healing up that well. So maybe can take even longer. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk  yes, and he would only be a summer signing anyway, RB will never cough him up in January IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDTips 34 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 40 million is a bargain these days. If so, Ake has to be ours. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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