Vesper 30,233 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 a must watch Fernando and YorkshireBlue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEVINAA 129 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) A Draconian New Law Snuck Through This Month That Institutes Extreme Censorship of the Internet on a Global Basis https://discernreport.com/a-draconian-new-law-snuck-through-this-month-that-institutes-extreme-censorship-of-the-internet-on-a-global-basis/ The Internet just changed forever, but most people living in the United States don’t even realize what just happened. A draconian new law known as the “Digital Services Act” went into effect in the European Union on Friday, and it establishes an extremely strict regime of Internet censorship that is far more authoritarian than anything we have ever seen before. From this point forward, hordes of European bureaucrats will be the arbiters of what is acceptable to say on the Internet. If they discover something that you have said on a large online platform that they do not like, they can force that platform to take it down, because someone in Europe might see it. So even though this is a European law, the truth is that it is going to have a tremendous impact on all of us. But starting on February 24th, 2024, the Digital Services Act will start applying to a much broader spectrum of online platforms that have fewer than 45 million monthly users. We are being told that this new law will establish clear rules that online platforms must follow. Edited August 30, 2023 by KEVINAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 @MoroccanBlue Hope all is well with your family. That earthquake looked pretty nasty. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 All is well. Appreciate the concern. My family reside in Rabat and Casablanca. Sir Mikel OBE and Vesper 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) On 30/08/2023 at 21:11, KEVINAA said: A Draconian New Law Snuck Through This Month That Institutes Extreme Censorship of the Internet on a Global Basis https://discernreport.com/a-draconian-new-law-snuck-through-this-month-that-institutes-extreme-censorship-of-the-internet-on-a-global-basis/ The Internet just changed forever, but most people living in the United States don’t even realize what just happened. A draconian new law known as the “Digital Services Act” went into effect in the European Union on Friday, and it establishes an extremely strict regime of Internet censorship that is far more authoritarian than anything we have ever seen before. From this point forward, hordes of European bureaucrats will be the arbiters of what is acceptable to say on the Internet. If they discover something that you have said on a large online platform that they do not like, they can force that platform to take it down, because someone in Europe might see it. So even though this is a European law, the truth is that it is going to have a tremendous impact on all of us. But starting on February 24th, 2024, the Digital Services Act will start applying to a much broader spectrum of online platforms that have fewer than 45 million monthly users. We are being told that this new law will establish clear rules that online platforms must follow. I do believe that the antivaxers - antivaxer trolls should have been sent to Spinalonga island a long time ago. But there was always a drive to apply extreme censorship to the web. Mainly by the newspaper editors. In the very early days of the internet this thing happened: There was that guy who used to publish a weekly gazette called "the nightlife". It was something like a mini version of London Time Out, a guide of restaurants, tavernas, nightclubs, shows etc. He had already stopped publishing for some time it but I said to him "hey, what a good idea for a website - do it". As he was an internet illiterate he said "no" but he probably also thought about me that "maybe this man can do it on his own - produce a town nightlife on the internet". So he became very angry and he said "whoever tries something like that will be sent to prison immediately". I suppose he later understood that this could n't be done -send people to prison- but all the other journalists were like him. Edited September 10, 2023 by cosmicway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,233 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Social Europe politics, economy and employment & labour Exchanging glances: Serbia seduces illiberal America https://www.socialeurope.eu/exchanging-glances-serbia-seduces-illiberal-america The government of Aleksandar Vučić is trying to clean up its image, Lily Lynch writes—without having to clean up its act. Budding bromance: a screenshot from Tucker Carlson’s posted video, with the Serbian president, Aleksandar Vučić On August 20th, Tucker Carlson published a video on the ‘social media’ platform formerly known as Twitter. The 3:30 clip follows a jovial Carlson as he visits the embassy of Serbia in Budapest to meet the Serbian president, Aleksandar Vučić. The former Fox News host describes Vučić as ‘smart and aware’, with ‘a perspective that you don’t get in the United States that often’. The video cuts to Carlson in the embassy, vigorously shaking hands with the Serbian sports minister, Zoran Gajić, and the finance minister, Siniša Mali. Carlson engages in some chitchat, punctuated by his signature peals of shrieking laughter. A wide-eyed, starstruck Mali tells Carlson that his eldest son is his ‘biggest fan’, while a more reserved Gajić briefly recounts the highlights of his storied career as a top volleyball coach. Vučić hangs back, interjecting only occasionally, with the lighthearted, deferential demeanour he assumes in the presence of powerful visitors from the west. The exchange looks so congenial it is possible to forget, momentarily, that this is the Serbian government looking very much at home on an American show—yet Serbia, by all accounts, is the most anti-American country in Europe. Though generally an hospitable place for visitors from the United States, sentiment towards policy in Washington is completely different. The legacy of the 1999 bombing of Serbia by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, along with US support for Kosovo’s 2008 declaration of independence—Belgrade still views Kosovo as its southern province—have badly wounded relations. According to one poll, nearly 60 per cent of Serbs oppose co-operation with the US. Charm offensive But a charm offensive is under way. The US embassy in Serbia has been eager to deepen its relationship with Vučić, despite the authoritarian nature of his decade-long reign and his dark political history as Serbian minister of information, when Slobodan Milošević was president of Yugoslavia, during the late 1990s. For the Americans Vučić is someone they can do business with. They see him as having been eager to implement ‘badly needed economic reforms’—such as a revision of the labour law to the benefit of foreign investors and the detriment of Serbian workers. They view him as prepared to do almost anything to maintain personal power and therefore amenable to making unpopular deals encouraged by the west, even on Kosovo. And they think him sufficiently autocratic to keep a lid on the unseemly elements within the Serbian far right, while powerful enough to rein in the more overtly pro-Russian leader of Republika Srpska, Milorad Dodik, who periodically raises the spectre of its secession from Bosnia-Herzegovina. Since the full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, the US embassy in Belgrade has been on a blitz to compete with Russia for Serbia’s affections. So far, Serbia has refused to impose sanctions on Russia, despite sending mixed messages in other fora—at the United Nations, Serbia has repeatedly voted to condemn the invasion and breaches of Ukraine’s territorial integrity. More significantly, Serbian-produced ammunition has quietly found its way on to the Ukrainian battlefield, although arms shipments were recently halted after the US Treasury placed Aleksandar Vulin, the head of Serbia’s intelligence agency, BIA, under sanctions. Vučić coyly said to the Financial Times in June: ‘Is it possible that it’s happening? I have no doubts that it might happen. What is the alternative for us? Not to produce it? Not to sell it?’ Furthermore, the US embassies in Belgrade and Pristina have laid much of the blame for the recent spasms of violence in north Kosovo on its prime minister, Albin Kurti. Much of the media has followed suit—as with this unsubtle teaser in the Economist: ‘This time, Kosovo’s ethnic Albanians are largely to blame’. Such uncharacteristically harsh condemnation of Pristina has been interpreted by many as another attempt to curry favour with Serbs. Image clean-up While the US is seeking to improve its relations with Serbia, Belgrade is paying to clean up its image on the other side of the Atlantic. In recent weeks, the Serbian government has enlisted a new roster of well-placed lobbyists to promote its interests in the US. The names and backgrounds of the hires suggest a multi-pronged approach: altering public perceptions, managing the media and influencing decision-makers. In late July, the Serbian government retained the services of KARV communications, a public-relations firm based in New York. Over the past month, a number of ‘registered foreign agents’ working for Serbia have been added to the US Foreign Agents Registration Act database—the act requires that individuals representing foreign interests disclose such information publicly. These new registrants, all of whom work with KARV communications, will ‘help promote and explain various Government of Republic of Serbia policy initiatives through outreach to media and relevant US-based groups’. Among the new registrants is one Alana Abramson, a graduate of Columbia journalism school who recently worked as a producer for CNN. Previously, she was a White House and congressional reporter for Time. We can assume she will now be leveraging her many contacts in the media and politics to advance the interests of the Serbian government. The government has also retained Adrian Karatnycky, a non-resident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Eurasia Center, a frequent contributor to Foreign Policy and Foreign Affairs and former director of Freedom House. Karatnycky has long served as a controversial lobbyist for client governments of questionable integrity—a few years ago, his Myrmidon Group worked for Dodik in Republika Srpska. A few of Serbia’s newly registered lobbyists are perhaps slightly better known to Balkan audiences. Gordon Bardos once served as assistant director of the Harriman Institute at Columbia. He is a major proponent of the idea that Muslim-majority Balkan countries are incubators for Islamist violence. In a 2021 op-ed for the National Interest, Bardos chastised the US government for ‘consistently supporting the worst figures in the Balkans’. Clearly, for Bardos, Vučić is not one of these. Perfect propaganda Serbia has long employed top-shelf foreign lobbyists and advisers: the disgraced British PR firm Bell-Pottinger, the former Italian foreign minister Franco Frattini, the former Austrian chancellor Alfred Gussenbauer, the former British prime minister Tony Blair as well as Cherie Blair, the former US ambassador to Serbia and Montenegro Bill Montgomery and the former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani. These celebrities have given Vučić and his Serbian Progressive Party the credibility they crave on the world stage and a narrative arc of redemption—without having to engage in any redeeming action. Just out is the trailer for a movie called the Heroes of Halyard. The already-controversial film was funded directly and indirectly by the Serbian government and is the perfect propaganda film for this moment of warming Serbian-US relations. Halyard tells the story of a World War II rescue in which Serbian Chetniks helped evacuate downed US airmen from German-occupied territory. This serves important functions: it highlights a positive moment in the history of Serbia-US relations, encouraging the US to be appreciative; it whitewashes the Chetniks, who collaborated with the Nazis yet are presented as heroes, and it airbrushes out the real heroes, the Partisans, who ultimately defeated the Nazis. With anti-communism thrown in, the film seems tailor-made to appeal to nationalist (but western-friendly) audiences in Serbia and conservative viewers in the US. Populist right Which brings us back to the appearance by Vučić on Tucker Carlson. The clip came out just a few days before the first Republican presidential debate. It offers insight into the Serbian government’s likely audience for its image rehabilitation—the western populist right, with the hope that one of its candidates will win the 2024 US presidential election. Critics of much of the west’s policy towards Serbia often miss that this is what rapprochement will look like—not Serbia being folded into a vaunted rules-based order of liberal democracies (with adoption of the associated human-rights rhetoric and foreign-policy preferences) but at home among the illiberal populists of the American and European far right. Those who have long dreamed that Serbia would one day change and become ‘a normal western country’ may thus soon get their wish—but what it means to be ‘a normal western country’ may have changed fundamentally in the meantime. This is a joint publication by Social Europe and IPS-Journal Lily Lynch Lily Lynch is a writer and journalist from California based in Belgrade. She is co-founder and editor-in-chief of Balkanist Magazine, and is a regular contributor to New Left Review, among others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,233 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Republicans Watching Your Daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,233 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 We must recognize MAGA Republicans for what they are, a fascist movement determined to destroy American democracy. This ad from @MissnDemocracy is becoming our reality, we must do everything in our power to vote them all out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,728 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 America really is a drag on the rest of the world. Their politics bleed into the rest of the western world, and people who don't really have any issues take on theirs and bring it to their own country. Right vs left is never more apparent everywhere than it is now. Bonus tip - they're both the same shit, with different flavour. No one is here to help you. Pick your shittery - death by a dependance system or death by lack of funding to key areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,233 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Thor said: death by a dependance system RW talking point robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Thor said: America really is a drag on the rest of the world. Their politics bleed into the rest of the western world, and people who don't really have any issues take on theirs and bring it to their own country. Right vs left is never more apparent everywhere than it is now. Bonus tip - they're both the same shit, with different flavour. No one is here to help you. Pick your shittery - death by a dependance system or death by lack of funding to key areas. I'd agree if we were talking democrats vs republicans of old. "death by a dependance system" is a silly talking point because it presumes a binary choice, where very little in life is. It's same trick they do with health care: they propose a binary choice when it does not have to be. MAGA and Trump is not a normal republican thing; I think this is the part that folks outside of the US don't get: Trump wants to change so much that *that* will definitely bleed into the rest of the western world. I feel Trump has a transactional relationship with the Republican Party likely the same way he has with his wife. 😅 Edited September 19, 2023 by robsblubot Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,728 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, robsblubot said: I'd agree if we were talking democrats vs republicans of old. "death by a dependance system" is a silly talking point because it presumes a binary choice, where very little in life is. It's same trick they do with health care: they propose a binary choice when it does not have to be. MAGA and Trump is not a normal republican thing; I think this is the part that folks outside of the US don't get: Trump wants to change so much that *that* will definitely bleed into the rest of the western world. I feel Trump has a transactional relationship with the Republican Party likely the same way he has with his wife. 😅 They're both one in the same and obviously its a lot more highly complex than a binary choice - but in a very generic way of oversimplifying - they both don't support the way they're supposed to, in order to keep differentiation and keep the ponzi going that is left vs right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,728 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 35 minutes ago, Vesper said: RW talking point Not sure I understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Just now, Thor said: They're both one in the same and obviously its a lot more highly complex than a binary choice - but in a very generic way of oversimplifying - they both don't support the way they're supposed to, in order to keep differentiation and keep the ponzi going that is left vs right? sure the lack of representation is an issue in politics and worst in the US esp because of the amount of money in politics. Though, my warning again is that MAGA/Trump is a different beast that goes way beyond 👆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,728 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Just now, robsblubot said: sure the lack of representation is an issue in politics and worst in the US esp because of the amount of money in politics. Though, my warning again is that MAGA/Trump is a different beast that goes way beyond 👆 Maybe, maybe not. I think COVID has more of a part to play in things than anything. People were stuck at home, bored, many lost jobs, and thus purpose and meaning. Attached themselves to shit/ideologies they found on the internet to give themselves purpose again, and its held strong and fast - either one way or the other. I'm from Australia - our lives are good here. But even now, we get the worst part of these radical movements from both sides of the left and right of America. We're slowly starting to get more issues - when most people here are centrist in reality - don't care, and just want to live life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,233 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, Thor said: Not sure I understand? the construct that an expansive social safety net and social welfare system (such as our Nordic Model) is somehow 'death' is a right wing talking point robsblubot and OhForAGreavsie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,728 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: the construct that an expansive social safety net and social welfare system (such as our Nordic Model) is somehow 'death' is a right wing talking point Oh okay. Well I don't vote for either right or left - so I don't care about what is seen as what. There are pros and cons with both types of systems. Something will always fall to the wayside no matter which one is employed. I think it also depends on the cultural aspect of the country. I think a Nordic system works well over where it is. In Australia though, people take the piss too much, and too many lazy bastards who don't want to work and find any excuse to blame. The reality is - there is no one size fits all. Leaders should be far more analytical and look historically what has worked best for their countries. But often times its all about perception and getting whatever it is that is the narrative passed through as a bill, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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