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[Fernando 6,585]

6 minutes ago, kmk108 said:

Dakota Access Pipeline and Keystone Pipeline have literally been forced through by Trump's executive order. We may see a record number of executive orders for a presidential term if this continues.

Yay, more building for infrastructure of a a resource that we should been decreasing the use of, not increasing.

Who has the most record? For Executive order. 

Edit: nvm I saw it in wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders

[Fernando 6,585]

22 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

 

79 UN Resolutions broken by Israel up until 2010

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/01/27/rogue-state-israeli-violations-of-u-n-security-council-resolutions/

They just get away with it time and time again due to AIPAC and Zionist lobbying

Have you actually read some of them?

I scratch at myself reading this: 

Res. 242 (Nov. 22, 1967) – Emphasizes “the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war”, emphasizes that member states have a commitment to abide by the U.N. Charter, and calls for the “Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied” during the June 1967 war.

Isn't this a clear double standard? I remember Peru taking by war land from Ecuador and there's nothing being done for that.....

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

8 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Have you actually read some of them?

I scratch at myself reading this: 

Res. 242 (Nov. 22, 1967) – Emphasizes “the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war”, emphasizes that member states have a commitment to abide by the U.N. Charter, and calls for the “Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied” during the June 1967 war.

Isn't this a clear double standard? I remember Peru taking by war land from Ecuador and there's nothing being done for that.....

True, but Peru probably doesn't have the same leverage in Washington ....

[kmk108 1,186]

47 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Who has the most record? For Executive order. 

Edit: nvm I saw it in wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders

Well nevermind then  Unless Trump becomes a Tyrant (in which he won't need executive orders)

[Spike 12,049]

On 1/22/2017 at 5:59 PM, Peace. said:

You are actually very soft in your words Spike because the number of people who are talking about reverting back to a pre-industrial society amounts to next to zero.

On the other hand, the vast majority of people that "fight" to "save the planet" are overwhelmingly people that embrace entirely the Society of Consumption. But the problem for them is that we are living in a world dominated by American paradigms and the Political Correctness is one of the most important of them. It means that, for instance, you can drop bombs over seven countries and kill thousands of muslims, yet if you make nice speeches about peace, it will be enough for people and they will considere you as some sort of heroic peace bringer — on the contrary, if you say something non PC about muslims you will be considered as the next Hitler even though you have never killed one of them.

It is the same with ecology and the climate change. You can overuse your mac & your ipad & your iphone then listen to music on your fancy stereo, sipping from a drink with ice cubes coming from your huge american fridge while chilling in your house and enjoying the cooled-down air from the air-conditioner. You can also travel the world in a highly polluting plane in order to showcase on social media how hype you are and how you are "culturally elevated" as you visit other cultures. And finally you can wear yourself with clothes made in China and eating meat that comes from New-Zeland while eating fruits from some other places.

All of that is perfectly fine — you can burn incredibly huge amounts of energy the day as long as the night you log in on twitter and shove down people's throat how much you are an ecologist, then everything is fine.

This is basically what are doing the people that contortion themselves over the fact that Trump is dropping the climate change from US policies. Through which medium all of those twitter activists are venting their outrage ? That's right, from a computer or a smartphone or an ipad — or even better for the most "connected" of them, from the three. Those people are an integral part of the problem, just as much as those with their big Jeep.

And if you notice their demands, they are not demanding to people to drop their way of life — the High Consumption is too comfortable to be dropped. And not only they are not asking that, but they are demanding governments to raise the power of consumption of people who don't have the possibility to burn a lot of oil.

The most interesting is how those people manage to reconcile their need for huge energetic consumption and their need to have a good public image. The trick is pretty simple : they delegate their responsibility to their governments and to big companies. As I said, those people do not wish to lose their little comfort. They thus demand to their government to magically fix things and to come up with a solution to keep their consummaritary way of life while buring "clean" energy ; and as long politicians did not come out with the magic idea that ends all problems, those very same people will yelp — while sitting in their air-conditioned home —  that Exxon are polluters.

 

 

Bioenergy is a long way to be able to sustain our needs in energy wich are rising exponentially each and passing day — yet people want to consume. So while they are so proud of themselves to protest against big polluters and to """fight""" — only in words — to save the planet, there are people out there that have to come up with solutions to satisfy those people's need in energy (otherwise they will riot). And that solution is inexorably.... OIL — and for Americans specifically, it is SHALE OIL. Those hypocrites can criticize Trump all they want, but their way of life is requiring to use polluting industries and energies.

All those hypocrites of twitter activists that enjoy to act as if they were a special breed have to realise that their way of life requires to burn gigantic amounts of oil. Their way of life has a cost — a huge cost. Those White Knights have to choose : either they understand they are an integral part of the problem and that what is polluting is their way of life and not the petrol and thus they finally change how they live ; or they should simply shut the hell up because their moral crusade is very annoying and aside from a few 'likes' on the internet, it is non productive.

I work as a barista at Starbucks; a company that paints itself in a very socially responsible manner. A customer had asked for a hot coffee refill, which is about a quarter of the regular price. I had placed a new lid on top of his cup which caused him to remark something along the lines of 'I already have a lid, I'm trying to reduce waste'. That statement got me thinking quite a lot, it was a rather innocuous statement but it stood out like a sore thumb. So the mam bought about a half-litre of black cofee; brewed on an electric drip, ground on an electric grinder, the beans were wrapped in a thick plastic bag, shipped to the store in a large cardboard container on a gas guzzling truck, shipped to a depot on an even larger truck, shipped from south-America on a cargo plane or a cargo ship, roasted in a huge electric oven, picked by Colombian farmers that drove to work in their 1992 Chevrolet pick-up and watered with megatons of water. No only that but the customer drove to the store on his motorbike. I think a plastic lid is the least of the worries.

[Spike 12,049]

On 1/20/2017 at 7:54 PM, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Alt Right leader was attacked today at the inauguration too

 

Here he was in happier times:

 

On 1/21/2017 at 2:57 AM, CHOULO19 said:

On a different note, I have been unable to stop watching this GIF for hours now. 

Interventions are welcomed! 

While it couldn't have happened against a more deserving person, this really shouldn't have happened and the person that blind-sided him should be ashamed. To violently act against a person with opposing or radical political opinions is quite possible the stupidest thing to do, not only does it paint Spencer as a victim but it helps legitimise his claims. You do not get to punch people in the face just because you disagree with them. Might does not make right and this action is a step-backwards for anybody that is actually opposing Spencer.

In one stupid, stupid act, one man emboldened Spencer and his followers.

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

42 minutes ago, Spike said:

In one stupid, stupid act, one man emboldened Spencer and his followers

Although it could conversely be said it has emboldened anti-fascists everywhere...

[Spike 12,049]

4 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Although it could conversely be said it has emboldened anti-fascists everywhere...

Fascism? This has nothing to do with fascism, but an offshoot of white-ethnocentrism that believes that western society can only be propagated by people of western-European ethnicity and that cultural assimilation and integration is impossible. How does this embolded those that stand against Spencer? That violence is okay? That those with opposing view points can be silenced with threats and acts of violence? That is immoral and could be described as pseudo-authoritarianism.

The concept of fascism has been beaten to death.

[Peace. 4,352]

2 hours ago, Spike said:

I work as a barista at Starbucks; a company that paints itself in a very socially responsible manner. A customer had asked for a hot coffee refill, which is about a quarter of the regular price. I had placed a new lid on top of his cup which caused him to remark something along the lines of 'I already have a lid, I'm trying to reduce waste'. That statement got me thinking quite a lot, it was a rather innocuous statement but it stood out like a sore thumb. So the mam bought about a half-litre of black cofee; brewed on an electric drip, ground on an electric grinder, the beans were wrapped in a thick plastic bag, shipped to the store in a large cardboard container on a gas guzzling truck, shipped to a depot on an even larger truck, shipped from south-America on a cargo plane or a cargo ship, roasted in a huge electric oven, picked by Colombian farmers that drove to work in their 1992 Chevrolet pick-up and watered with megatons of water. No only that but the customer drove to the store on his motorbike. I think a plastic lid is the least of the worries.

 

In one paragraph you summed-up the whole problem !!

Additionally, it reminds me of a humoristic video made on a French television which really sounds/looks like your story. Here is the link. It is in French, by you do not need to speak the language to understand what is going around. The tall bald man is obviously the ultra ecolo who love to consume "green" and to brague about it while the second one is a "redneck" and does not care about the environnement. This is hilarious !

P.S. sorry for the quality could not find better — it is very old

P.S.2. the second part is the first played again

 

 

[Spike 12,049]

15 minutes ago, Peace. said:

 

In one paragraph you summed-up the whole problem !!

Additionally, it reminds me of a humoristic video made on a French television which really sounds/looks like your story. Here is the link. It is in French, by you do not need to speak the language to understand what is going around. The tall bald man is obviously the ultra ecolo who love to consume "green" and to brague about it while the second one is a "redneck" and does not care about the environnement. This is hilarious !

P.S. sorry for the quality could not find better — it is very old

P.S.2. the second part is the first played again

 

 

pardon, mon frere, je n'ais parle pas francais

[Peace. 4,352]

52 minutes ago, Spike said:

pardon, mon frere, je n'ais parle pas francais

It goes on this way :

• narrator : "we have followed two men. Bernard Rambard, a man totally insensible to this noble cause (ecology) and Jérome Ludion, an ecologist aware of his responsibilities. While Bernard Rambard comes out of a bath too hot and cooks his meal on a old gas stove, Gérome ludion respects the environment." 
• Jérome Ludion ("Ecologist", green counter) : "Thanks to my solar panels, I could power up a pump that has pumped up the water from the well, heat it up [for the shower] and power up the electric hotplate for my tofu. End result : no CO2."
• Narrator : "Indeed, by using this simple device [solar panel] that cost him only 20 000 euros, Jérome contributes to the survival of our planet."
• Narrator : "While Bertrand Rambard is searching for a job with is his old diesel car which puts in danger our children's future, Jérome Ludion thinks ahead when going to work."
• Jérome Ludion ("Ecologist", green counter) : "With my car is a hybrid, I only produce 3 kg of CO2 per day. Well indeed I had to take the time to make the calculation, but what do represent a few hours of effort in comparison to the millions of years that it took to create fossil oil ?!"
• Narrator : "While Bertrand Rambard eats meat, thus intensive farming, thus maize, thus fertilizers, thus trucks, thus oil — Jérome Ludion takes his responsibilities."
• Jérome Ludion ("Ecologist", green counter) : "I have exiged to the board to include a bio meal on the canteen menu for every day. End result, a meal composed of vegetables and cereals hand-picked in cooperatives labelled 'fair trade'. The finality is little CO2 — yeah, we have to know want we want."
• Narrator : "While Bertrand Rambard is bored to death during the weekend while watching TV, Jérome Ludion goes to enjoy the sun in Morocco."
• Jérome Ludion : "With all the effors I produce, I deserve to breath from time to time."
• Narrator (while the green counter goes through the roof) : "The morality of this story is that in order to fight against the global warming, it is sometimes better to be poor and irresponsible than being rich and ecologist."

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

5 hours ago, Spike said:

Fascism? This has nothing to do with fascism, but an offshoot of white-ethnocentrism that believes that western society can only be propagated by people of western-European ethnicity and that cultural assimilation and integration is impossible. How does this embolded those that stand against Spencer? That violence is okay? That those with opposing view points can be silenced with threats and acts of violence? That is immoral and could be described as pseudo-authoritarianism.

The concept of fascism has been beaten to death.

Many of those Alt Right twats are regularly photographed giving Nazi salutes. They idolise Hitler. As for this Spencer and his followers, they deserve a slap.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

10 hours ago, Spike said:

While it couldn't have happened against a more deserving person, this really shouldn't have happened and the person that blind-sided him should be ashamed. To violently act against a person with opposing or radical political opinions is quite possible the stupidest thing to do, not only does it paint Spencer as a victim but it helps legitimise his claims. You do not get to punch people in the face just because you disagree with them. Might does not make right and this action is a step-backwards for anybody that is actually opposing Spencer.

In one stupid, stupid act, one man emboldened Spencer and his followers.

Legitimize his claims? He was punched while giving an interview to fucking NBC!

You think THIS emboldened him and his followers? They were already making Nazi salutes in the middle of DC! 

Here is Spencer himself explaining why it was good to punch him in the face:

“I am worried about going out to dinner on an average Tuesday because these people are roaming around” and “I’m afraid this is going to become the meme to end all memes. That I’m going to hate watching this.”

Of course it's good to have your Nazis scared and humiliated. Nazis don't disagree with people's opinions, they disagree with their very existence. You don't counter people who call for ethnic cleansing with reason; there is nothing rational about their beliefs in the first place.

Sorry, but if you sympathize with Spencer or feel that in any way HE is the victim then that says a lot about you and how you view Nazis.

The vast majority of people who are outraged by this have never had to actually resist oppression in their lives. Imagine telling a Jew to deal with Nazis peacefully!!

[Kieran. 6,317]

It's always okay to punch a Nazi.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

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