cosmicway 1,333 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 hour ago, manpe said: They make money with ads and subscriptions, all online outlets monetize their sites this way. Media nowadays is a different animal to what they were during those times so that heroic Daily Mail is long gone. I admit I read the Mail when I'm bored and just want some quick and pointless entertainment, however it would never be my go-to place for reliable and important news. Subs ? Do we sub to the DM for additional content ? Not sure. Ads ? I don't see any. The Racing Post site among websites belonging to newspapers does both to good effect I should think but not the DM. * In the 30s-40s too they were a tory-ad but their stance in the war earned them commendations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 49 minutes ago, cosmicway said: Subs ? Do we sub to the DM for additional content ? Not sure. Ads ? I don't see any. The Racing Post site among websites belonging to newspapers does both to good effect I should think but not the DM. * In the 30s-40s too they were a tory-ad but their stance in the war earned them commendations I turned off my ad blocker and there definitely are ads. And yes they also have some kind of subscription plans https://www.mailsubscriptions.co.uk/subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 4 hours ago, cosmicway said: Well, maybe. Despite the antics DM is regarded as a heroic newspaper in Greece because their reporters stayed in Athens in 1941 when the German army invaded and they wrote some fiery pieces about the resistance. I wonder how their site makes money though. It's a huge site. The other way they make money is by not paying any taxes. 'Lord' Rothermere, the owner is a billionaire off shore registered tax avoider. They may have stayed in Athens in 1941, however all through the 1930s the Daily Mail supported Oswald Mosely, the black shirted fascists and Hitler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 100% of my opinion of DM is based on their transfer rumors Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Is he comparing Mexicans to mindless titans ? Or to those that want to "destroy humanity" ? Oh my God, some people just do not realize... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: The other way they make money is by not paying any taxes. 'Lord' Rothermere, the owner is a billionaire off shore registered tax avoider. They may have stayed in Athens in 1941, however all through the 1930s the Daily Mail supported Oswald Mosely, the black shirted fascists and Hitler. DM was always one of the toryades, we know that. But anyway this is what happened in the war. I saw some ads where it says "money section", maybe in other places. As a reader I don't mind ads if they are unobtrusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Islamic State claims Eilat rocket attack, threatens more Group’s Sinai-based affiliate says it fired rockets ‘to teach Jews, crusaders a proxy war will not avail them of anything’ http://www.timesofisrael.com/islamic-state-in-sinai-claims-eilat-rocket-attack/?utm_source=The+Times+of+Israel+Daily+Edition&utm_campaign=63baac897f-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_02_09&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_adb46cec92-63baac897f-55497697 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 The President of Nihilism, Self, Oligarchy, Dehumanization, & White (male) Paternalism. The Anti-Life Movement. Be a slave to money and fear with no moral compass whatsoever and see what you get in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 He is actually quite pro-life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 I'd avoid taxes if I had the financial know how. Taxation is theft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 9:16 PM, Fulham Broadway said: Trump- ''so obnoxious , karma might see him reincarnated as himself'' Frankie Boyle https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/08/donald-trump-obnoxious-karma-reincarnated-as-himself-frankie-boyle I read that yesterday, The part about Melania waiting for stockholm syndrome to set in had me almost in tears. Only Frankie Boyle can come up with such brilliance Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 9:48 PM, Spike said: I hate it when comedians foray into political journalism and abandon their main ability; 'comedy'. I'll be dead and buried when Frankie fucking Boyle actually has any moral integrity to chastise anyone on ethics and morality. Weird. I don't like comedians who stay away from politics and social issues. Their acts just seem hollow and empty of any real material. Comedy is nothing if not a social and political critique. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy ordinary jokes, I just don't think of it as comedy. Also, Frankie Boyle has the moral high ground literally on everyone in politics. kmk108, 11Drogba, Iggy Doonican and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 3 hours ago, CHOULO19 said: Weird. I don't like comedians who stay away from politics and social issues. Their acts just seem hollow and empty of any real material. Comedy is nothing if not a social and political critique. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy ordinary jokes, I just don't think of it as comedy. Also, Frankie Boyle has the moral high ground literally on everyone in politics. I didn't say that. I said political journalism. 23 hours ago, kmk108 said: What too many people don't take into account is that they're satirists. The things they're making jokes on don't have to tell the whole truth because their main point is to make a joke. Sometimes they bring up good points, sometimes they're just after laughs. They can take a stance on something, but all comedians take sides on issues. I'll give you Colbert as a satirist, not the others. They just play themselves and skew everything from their perspective, it gets kinda old when they are so biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 13 hours ago, cosmicway said: DM was always one of the toryades, we know that. Supporting Hitler, Oswald Moseley and the Blackshirts is a bit more than a 'toryade', (whatever toryade is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Spike said: I'll give you Colbert as a satirist, not the others. They just play themselves and skew everything from their perspective, it gets kinda old when they are so biased Are there any right wing comedians -apart fromTrump ? kmk108 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said: Supporting Hitler, Oswald Moseley and the Blackshirts is a bit more than a 'toryade', (whatever toryade is) Hitler in the beginning was seen as a benign folkloric figure. One could even mimic him on stage. It's true. Even Charlie Chaplin in the Dictator did not believe in his military strength. In the film it is suggested that Benito Mussolini is the strongest of the two allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Spike said: I didn't say that. I said political journalism. Well you were talking about Frankie Boyle; I don't think anything he's ever done classifies as journalism. Neither did Stewart or does Colbert. If people choose to take their news from their shows instead of papers and news channels says more about the state of main stream media. As for John Oliver, I'm not his biggest fan, but he still does better journalism (not great but still better) than the majority of actual journalists. None of Oliver, Stewart or Colbert would be as successful and popular if it weren't for the massive gap in the quality of actual journalism and news reporting that's begging to be filled. kmk108 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 8 hours ago, Spike said: I didn't say that. I said political journalism. Writing a column in the Guardian is hardly political journalism. David Mitchell ( British comedian) writes one as well you can't ignore the big issues of the day. British comedians have a history of satire going back to the early 60's with Beyond the Fringe with my comedy hero Peter Cook. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/27/who-else-might-donald-trump-want-hire-for-the-uk-nigel-farage-ambassador Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: Are there any right wing comedians -apart fromTrump ? Don't know if you heard about that geezer Andrew Lawrence F.B he came out as a UKIP supporter. There was a Sky documentary about him called The Outcast. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/dara-obriain-reacts-to-bitter-self-delusional-andrew-lawrences-comments-about-balding-fat-comedians-9823733.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 40 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said: Don't know if you heard about that geezer Andrew Lawrence F.B he came out as a UKIP supporter. There was a Sky documentary about him called The Outcast. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/dara-obriain-reacts-to-bitter-self-delusional-andrew-lawrences-comments-about-balding-fat-comedians-9823733.html OK are there any funny ones ? Iggy Doonican 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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