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[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Nothing ever will work. 

The Bible state that a world leader coined the anti christ will establish a 7 year peace treaty with Israel and all those nations around them. 

This will enable the Jews to build their third temple but this peace will only last for 3 and half years and this world leader will in turn against the treaty and try to destroy the Jews. 

So as far that goes that 7 year peace treaty is going to be the only time it ever works but it will only last a short period of time. 

And you know why? Because of the hatred for the Jews. Anti semetism has no inteligent reasoning other than being a strong hatred being influenced by an outside entity. This outside entity will finally be manifested in this world leader known as the anti christ. 

With the world turning against Israel as you are seeing it, it makes no sense. The hatred is absurd, and you can see it. There are worse atrocity being committed by other countries like Syria, Venezuela and such but it's all about Israel. 

Just like the Bible Prophecy many thousands of years ago, many events are unfolding. 

 

There will be an antichrist.
I don't know about the 7 years and the 3 1/2 years your text says, but an antichrist we are going to have, yes sireee.
Already, the state knows all about you.
The 25 pence in your piggy bank.
That valuable mantle piece from old Italy in your living room.
And much more.
So you just wait for the peoples' inspectors to arrive.

One thing most folks seem to have got wrong is that big brother follows your politics.
But not any more. They would n't give a pair of tart's old knickers for your beliefs.
You read about the Moscow trials in books and you say "how brave those dissenters were - that's what I 'm going to be like when they drag me tomorrow and I will be all over the press".
Poppycock.
Just go for a stroll to the big brother central criminal courts. It's "bang-bang, take him away, next one".
All over the press indeed !

For now the system is money-money-money in the rich man's world (for the socialist comrades).
Our bright future is in zyklon gas chambers, after they have taken away our teeth and hair.

With electronics replacing everything tomorrow, money will inevitably go away.
This seems to be the natural conclusion.
The socialist comrades will then start raping the Bolshoi ballet girls, like they were doing back in the USSR.
Next and finally the antichrist will get them too, but in what precisely way we don't know yet (they know this but they don't care because it's far into the future).

[Fernando 6,586]

21 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

 

There will be an antichrist.
I don't know about the 7 years and the 3 1/2 years your text says, but an antichrist we are going to have, yes sireee.
Already, the state knows all about you.
The 25 pence in your piggy bank.
That valuable mantle piece from old Italy in your living room.
And much more.
So you just wait for the peoples' inspectors to arrive.

One thing most folks seem to have got wrong is that big brother follows your politics.
But not any more. They would n't give a pair of tart's old knickers for your beliefs.
You read about the Moscow trials in books and you say "how brave those dissenters were - that's what I 'm going to be like when they drag me tomorrow and I will be all over the press".
Poppycock.
Just go for a stroll to the big brother central criminal courts. It's "bang-bang, take him away, next one".
All over the press indeed !

For now the system is money-money-money in the rich man's world (for the socialist comrades).
Our bright future is in zyklon gas chambers, after they have taken away our teeth and hair.

With electronics replacing everything tomorrow, money will inevitably go away.
This seems to be the natural conclusion.
The socialist comrades will then start raping the Bolshoi ballet girls, like they were doing back in the USSR.
Next and finally the antichrist will get them too, but in what precisely way we don't know yet (they know this but they don't care because it's far into the future).

Yes its a 7 peace treaty between Israel and many nations around them. 

Look men, Israel was never supposed to exist, but it's here. Just like the bible predicted. 

No nation in the entire history of the world has ever come back after ceasing to be a nation for more then a 1,000 years.

That was predicted by the bible.

And then no nation in the world now attracts so much hate, discussion as Israel now despite other nations doing worse as just mentioned like Syria.

Again that was predicted in the bible.

So I'm no genius but if the bible has gotten right so far with this modern events with Israel I don't think it will be wrong when it says a 7 year peace treaty will come. And the Jewish people will be allowed to build their temple.

Build their temple seems impossible, but I don't know how it will happen but it will when this great world leader comes to the scene. 

[cosmicway 1,333]

12 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Yes its a 7 peace treaty between Israel and many nations around them. 

Look men, Israel was never supposed to exist, but it's here. Just like the bible predicted. 

No nation in the entire history of the world has ever come back after ceasing to be a nation for more then a 1,000 years.

That was predicted by the bible.

And then no nation in the world now attracts so much hate, discussion as Israel now despite other nations doing worse as just mentioned like Syria.

Again that was predicted in the bible.

So I'm no genius but if the bible has gotten right so far with this modern events with Israel I don't think it will be wrong when it says a 7 year peace treaty will come. And the Jewish people will be allowed to build their temple.

Build their temple seems impossible, but I don't know how it will happen but it will when this great world leader comes to the scene. 

 

To be more precise and up to date about the new system it goes like this:
Money disappears and is replaced by electronic points, exchangeable only among the members of the elit.
The rest will perish and even if we survive for a while we will certainly not reproduce.
So the world's population is to be limited to 800 mil - 1 bil, during antichrist's rule.

This cannot be achieved with the traditional communist system. For the communist system whatever else may be true about it, is pledged to full employment (of sorts).
It cannot be achieved with the traditional capitalist system either, because the free market tends to create full employment by itself.
So a new system has been devised, based on the coalescence of the old reds and blacks.
 

 

[Fernando 6,586]

13 hours ago, cosmicway said:

 

To be more precise and up to date about the new system it goes like this:
Money disappears and is replaced by electronic points, exchangeable only among the members of the elit.
The rest will perish and even if we survive for a while we will certainly not reproduce.
So the world's population is to be limited to 800 mil - 1 bil, during antichrist's rule.

This cannot be achieved with the traditional communist system. For the communist system whatever else may be true about it, is pledged to full employment (of sorts).
It cannot be achieved with the traditional capitalist system either, because the free market tends to create full employment by itself.
So a new system has been devised, based on the coalescence of the old reds and blacks.
 

 

Check out the even absurdity of the UN:

More than 500,000 Jews live in about 140 settlements built since Israel's 1967 occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The settlements are considered illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38450424

 

This does not even makes sense. Israel won that land in a war. How many other countries have won land in war and the UN never made a fuss about it? For example Peru took land from Ecuador years ago and nothing ever happens. 

As you see bible prophecy must come to pass where it says the whole world will turn against Israel and be fixated on Jerusalem. 

There is no logical reason to be this fixated on Jerusalem then in other countries, but only by an outside entity as the bible prophesied. 

We are getting closer and closer to the start of that 7 year peace treaty I spoke to you.  And the world leader that will deceive the whole world into taking his mark and worship him as god is coming. 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Well this thread went full crazy on this last page!  Thanks for the reminder though of the devastating lunacy of Christian extremism...

 

Regarding the UN resolution, the funny part is that it's actually more pro-Israel than pro Palestinian. The resolution condemns both the settlements as well as the Palestinian resistance. It basically equates occupation with the resistance to it. The resolution doesn't propose a punishment if/when Israel continues to build the settlements that break international law, it's own treaties and sometimes even its own laws! It's basically just saying

- "hey, maybe you should try to abide by international law and stop down that which literally all the countries on earth say is illegal!"

- "You  fucking antisemite!"

 

Regarding Obama, I despise his guts, he gets away with murder (literally) because of his "charisma" but the actual criticism he gets is just mind boggling and his relation with Israel is prime example. This resolution was the first one that the UN has passed on Israel-Palestine for 8 years. 8 years because the Obama administration has been blocking every resolution on Israel-Palestine in the UN for 8 years against official US policy. An almost identical resolution has passed in the UN under every single US president since the 70s, but of course it is the president who gave Israel 38 billion dollars, more than anything any country has ever received in history, gets criticized as 'anti-Israel'  No US president in history has EVER been more pro-Israel than Obama. Even before he became president, in his time as senator, he only ever wrote a a single bill: during the Israeli assault on Lebanon in 2006 he wrote a bill to emergency rearm Israel so they can continue their indiscriminate bombings and war crimes.

[Fernando 6,586]

30 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Well this thread went full crazy on this last page!  Thanks for the reminder though of the devastating lunacy of Christian extremism...

 

Regarding the UN resolution, the funny part is that it's actually more pro-Israel than pro Palestinian. The resolution condemns both the settlements as well as the Palestinian resistance. It basically equates occupation with the resistance to it. The resolution doesn't propose a punishment if/when Israel continues to build the settlements that break international law, it's own treaties and sometimes even its own laws! It's basically just saying

- "hey, maybe you should try to abide by international law and stop down that which literally all the countries on earth say is illegal!"

- "You  fucking antisemite!"

 

Regarding Obama, I despise his guts, he gets away with murder (literally) because of his "charisma" but the actual criticism he gets is just mind boggling and his relation with Israel is prime example. This resolution was the first one that the UN has passed on Israel-Palestine for 8 years. 8 years because the Obama administration has been blocking every resolution on Israel-Palestine in the UN for 8 years against official US policy. An almost identical resolution has passed in the UN under every single US president since the 70s, but of course it is the president who gave Israel 38 billion dollars, more than anything any country has ever received in history, gets criticized as 'anti-Israel'  No US president in history has EVER been more pro-Israel than Obama. Even before he became president, in his time as senator, he only ever wrote a a single bill: during the Israeli assault on Lebanon in 2006 he wrote a bill to emergency rearm Israel so they can continue their indiscriminate bombings and war crimes.

And the whole earth are showing their bias. 

Because just like Israel won the land because of war, so have many countries in the past won land because of war and the UN does not declare Illegal on all those other countries. 

Only Israel.....

The double standard is amazing. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,342]

More than 500,000 Jews live in about 140 settlements built since Israel's 1967 occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The settlements are considered illegal under international law.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

And the whole earth are showing their bias. 

Because just like Israel won the land because of war, so have many countries in the past won land because of war and the UN does not declare Illegal on all those other countries. 

Only Israel.....

The double standard is amazing. 

Yeah, sure, every single nation on earth is biased against Israel...

OR MAYBE, just maybe, anyone who doesn't have irrational biases about the issue (from ancient mythology for example) but rather with actual knowledge of the facts of the situation will naturally be against the breaking of international law. Just a thought... 

[Spike 12,049]

3 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

Well this thread went full crazy on this last page!  Thanks for the reminder though of the devastating lunacy of Christian extremism...

 

Regarding the UN resolution, the funny part is that it's actually more pro-Israel than pro Palestinian. The resolution condemns both the settlements as well as the Palestinian resistance. It basically equates occupation with the resistance to it. The resolution doesn't propose a punishment if/when Israel continues to build the settlements that break international law, it's own treaties and sometimes even its own laws! It's basically just saying

- "hey, maybe you should try to abide by international law and stop down that which literally all the countries on earth say is illegal!"

- "You  fucking antisemite!"

 

Regarding Obama, I despise his guts, he gets away with murder (literally) because of his "charisma" but the actual criticism he gets is just mind boggling and his relation with Israel is prime example. This resolution was the first one that the UN has passed on Israel-Palestine for 8 years. 8 years because the Obama administration has been blocking every resolution on Israel-Palestine in the UN for 8 years against official US policy. An almost identical resolution has passed in the UN under every single US president since the 70s, but of course it is the president who gave Israel 38 billion dollars, more than anything any country has ever received in history, gets criticized as 'anti-Israel'  No US president in history has EVER been more pro-Israel than Obama. Even before he became president, in his time as senator, he only ever wrote a a single bill: during the Israeli assault on Lebanon in 2006 he wrote a bill to emergency rearm Israel so they can continue their indiscriminate bombings and war crimes.

Obama is a freak of nature. His charisma has created a personality cult that would actively support a third term. People absolve him of transgressions that would leave past presidents and the incumbent crucified in a public square. One bill written, one hundred and thirty-seven sponsored and three passed. Two hundred and sixty Executive Orders and the chutzpah to lecture the incumbent on not using EOs. Ay, ay, ay, the hypocrisy and the imperviousness to mainstream criticism is mind boggling. No politician or party should be trusted let alone admired like Obama is.

[Fernando 6,586]

5 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

Yeah, sure, every single nation on earth is biased against Israel...

OR MAYBE, just maybe, anyone who doesn't have irrational biases about the issue (from ancient mythology for example) but rather with actual knowledge of the facts of the situation will naturally be against the breaking of international law. Just a thought... 

Well according to this guy on November 29, 1947 the Jews accepted a resolution to create a two state solution but the Arabs did not accept as they wanted everything......

 

 

 

Not only that, but he also said that as to the two state solution the Palestinian want one state pure Arabic, and the other mix......Seriously what kind of shenanigans is that? 

Palestine only Arabic allowed, but Israel can't be Jewish only but mix....

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

58 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Well according to this guy on November 29, 1947 the Jews accepted a resolution to create a two state solution but the Arabs did not accept as they wanted everything......

 

 

 

Not only that, but he also said that as to the two state solution the Palestinian want one state pure Arabic, and the other mix......Seriously what kind of shenanigans is that? 

Palestine only Arabic allowed, but Israel can't be Jewish only but mix....

To be fair in Retrospect the Palestinians should have took the deal, but you cant blame them for taking the the gamble. The entire Arab world was supposed to be going up against little old Israel. I think everybody in 1948 would have bet on the Arab Nations winning.

[Fernando 6,586]

8 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

To be fair in Retrospect the Palestinians should have took the deal, but you cant blame them for taking the the gamble. The entire Arab world was supposed to be going up against little old Israel. I think everybody in 1948 would have bet on the Arab Nations winning.

And this proves my point. No deal that you do will it ever sufficed. The Arabic world hate Israel and the only world they want is one with no Israel in it. 

And let's not forget that they are a hard people to deal with. 

I mean look at Europe taking in immigrants from that side of the world, the Muslim religion is one of war. 

It's not like your taking jews refuges and they are driving trucks into a crowded area because of Allah..... 

Nothing will ever suffice with these people. 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

1 minute ago, Fernando said:

And this proves my point. No deal that you do will it ever sufficed. The Arabic world hate Israel and the only world they want is one with no Israel in it. 

And let's not forget that they are a hard people to deal with. 

I mean look at Europe taking in immigrants from that side of the world, the Muslim religion is one of war. 

It's not like your taking jews refuges and they are driving trucks into a crowded area because of Allah..... 

Nothing will ever suffice with these people. 

To be fair using Europe as barometer for dealing with people isnt the best seeing as Europe struggled with their Jewish Populations too. A large part of it was why Hitler's brand of Antisemitism was able to catch on so readily.

 

Muslims or Jews its apparently large parts of Europe don't want either.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

11 hours ago, Spike said:

Obama is a freak of nature. His charisma has created a personality cult that would actively support a third term. People absolve him of transgressions that would leave past presidents and the incumbent crucified in a public square. One bill written, one hundred and thirty-seven sponsored and three passed. Two hundred and sixty Executive Orders and the chutzpah to lecture the incumbent on not using EOs. Ay, ay, ay, the hypocrisy and the imperviousness to mainstream criticism is mind boggling. No politician or party should be trusted let alone admired like Obama is.

Obama went so much further than Bush in taking away people's rights, handing power to Wall Street and the corporate sector and even in war. But he can't be criticized because he's the darling of the democratic party.

 

7 hours ago, Fernando said:

Well according to this guy on November 29, 1947 the Jews accepted a resolution to create a two state solution but the Arabs did not accept as they wanted everything......

Not only that, but he also said that as to the two state solution the Palestinian want one state pure Arabic, and the other mix......Seriously what kind of shenanigans is that? 

Palestine only Arabic allowed, but Israel can't be Jewish only but mix....

Yeah, a guy with a video titled "Prophecy update" sure sounds reliable!  

There is actually a solution in the form of a treaty that both the Israeli government and the Palestinian authorities agreed to and signed. It is called the Oslo agreement. They agreed to a two-state solution based on the 67 borders and splitting Jerusalem. That makes the settlements illegal under international law because they break the international agreement that Israel signed. It's really that simple. 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

7 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

To be fair in Retrospect the Palestinians should have took the deal, but you cant blame them for taking the the gamble. The entire Arab world was supposed to be going up against little old Israel. I think everybody in 1948 would have bet on the Arab Nations winning.

Sure, if it would have ended at that. But literally nothing in the history of this conflict suggests that Israel would have abided by that agreement just like they have set out to destroy the Oslo agreement from the very first day it was signed. 

[Fernando 6,586]

4 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

Obama went so much further than Bush in taking away people's rights, handing power to Wall Street and the corporate sector and even in war. But he can't be criticized because he's the darling of the democratic party.

 

Yeah, a guy with a video titled "Prophecy update" sure sounds reliable!  

There is actually a solution in the form of a treaty that both the Israeli government and the Palestinian authorities agreed to and signed. It is called the Oslo agreement. They agreed to a two-state solution based on the 67 borders and splitting Jerusalem. That makes the settlements illegal under international law because they break the international agreement that Israel signed. It's really that simple. 

Yeah that Oslo agreement set up everything but it will not be implemented till the near future when this world leader appears on the scene. And it will be only a 7 year peace treaty as mentioned, but then he will turn on this mid way and turn to destroy the jews. 

But before that to happen, the rapture of church will happen first. Where many Christians will disappear from the face of the earth before this man appear. 

And since we are seeing everything line up just as ancient prophecy said then we are very close to the rapture of the church. 

[Fernando 6,586]

Trump on Kerry speech: Something's going on and it's 'very unfair' to Israel

Trump criticizes UN for its harsh stance on Israel, charging that the body had meanwhile failed to reprimand "horrible places that treat people horribly."

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Trump-on-Kerrys-speech-Theres-something-going-on-and-its-unfair-to-Israel-476847

 

Well it's not just me that said the un bias of the world right now, but also President elect Trump. 

But what most people don't understand is that this was written thousands of years ago. It's starting to  happen before our own eyes. 

The world is being influenced by an outside entity that hates the jew. And that hatred of the jew will be manifested more and more into the world. Especially when he appears. 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

35 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Yeah that Oslo agreement set up everything but it will not be implemented till the near future when this world leader appears on the scene. And it will be only a 7 year peace treaty as mentioned, but then he will turn on this mid way and turn to destroy the jews. 

But before that to happen, the rapture of church will happen first. Where many Christians will disappear from the face of the earth before this man appear. 

And since we are seeing everything line up just as ancient prophecy said then we are very close to the rapture of the church. 

  

Yeah...sure thing, buddy....

[Fernando 6,586]

1 hour ago, CHOULO19 said:

  

Yeah...sure thing, buddy....

Well when everything I said happen will you still believe or take it as mere coincidence?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

On 12/29/2016 at 5:13 PM, Fernando said:

Well when everything I said happen will you still believe or take it as mere coincidence?

Of course not, don't be silly.

If that happens it could only be because of some prophecy Sybill Trelawney made but that we don't know about because the death eaters destroyed most of the records of prophecies when they raided the department of mysteries in the ministry of magic  

 

Dude, I will defend, with all I have, your right to hold any belief you want. But you do not have the right to force me to respect that belief and you certainly don't have the right to force anyone to accept those beliefs.

You can't expect to have a discussion with me starting from your beliefs and assuming that they are true. What exactly do you expect me to say except that I find your beliefs ridiculous? We can't have any discussion except based on facts.