Politics & Stuff

[Peace. 4,352]

53 minutes ago, Spike said:

 

On Sanders

Immigration

I don't know what these means for me. I'm a Johnny Foreigner, does this change things for me?

Gun Control

This works for me.

Civil Liberties

If this means I don't have to take my fucking shoes off in the airport again than okay. Fuck the TSA.

Foreign Policy

I suppose that is good? I'm not a far of war but we'll see.

Taxes

That is excellent. Fucking billionaires, hoarding money and having it rot in accounts. That shit needs to be spent for the trickle down effect to happen.

Jobs and Employment

Give me a damn job you geriatric bastard. 

 

 

In short, Sanders is saying : 'vote for me and everything will be great'. Spike, I know that deep down inside you, you know what such a thing means.

[Spike 12,049]

14 minutes ago, Peace. said:

 

 

In short, Sanders is saying : 'vote for me and everything will be great'. Spike, I know that deep down inside you, you know what such a thing means.

Yeah, I know. It won't change a thing, he wants to revolutionise the country. Impossible to do in two terms, let alone from ages 75 to 83. American politics has no balls, nobody will bite the bullet and really make a change that revolutionises that country. In 94 several politicians committed  political suicide by instating gun control laws that are still in affect to this day. Here they care more about how long they can stay in office, not what they can do. I'd rather someone come in, change everything for the better be hated for it (people hate change) than wanking about for nearly a decade.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

Donald Trump has decided to have elocution lessons and the change is startling !

https://youtu.be/qUGT30gGtiI

[CHOULO19 24,332]

34 minutes ago, Spike said:

On Sanders

Immigration

I don't know what these means for me. I'm a Johnny Foreigner, does this change things for me?

Gun Control

This works for me.

Civil Liberties

If this means I don't have to take my fucking shoes off in the airport again than okay. Fuck the TSA.

Foreign Policy

I suppose that is good? I'm not a far of war but we'll see.

Taxes

That is excellent. Fucking billionaires, hoarding money and having it rot in accounts. That shit needs to be spent for the trickle down effect to happen.

Jobs and Employment

Give me a damn job you geriatric bastard. 

It's never just about what any candidate says, though, but what you think he/she will actually try to do and how much they can do it. After all, Obama did actually get elected on an anti-war agenda and his terms turned out to be two of the bloodiest and most violent in recent history. His global assassination campaign, his 'drone program' alone, is probably the biggest global terror campaign and one of the biggest violations to international law in history. 

Sanders, unlike Obama who was virtually unknown before running for president, has a long history of activism and politics so I would be more inclined to believe his belief in his agenda and his main agenda has been to break up the big banks. Now, I don't believe that Sanders will get elected, but in the unlikely scenario that he did, that agenda is simply unattainable in the US. 

On the other issues, Sanders who actually is independent and is not a democrat, will have no backing in either houses not to mention most importantly that every lobbying group will be working against him. SO I really doubt he can actually make any of that come true.

What Sanders might be able to do, though, if he is elected, is small changes like blocking the Keystone pipeline, consolidating LGBTQ rights, shrinking the wage gap for women, reinforcing planned parenthood...etc. Obviously not nearly the required change, but also undoubtedly better than having Ted Cruz in office. 

[Spike 12,049]

6 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

It's never just about what any candidate says, though, but what you think he/she will actually try to do and how much they can do it. After all, Obama did actually get elected on an anti-war agenda and his terms turned out to be two of the bloodiest and most violent in recent history. His global assassination campaign, his 'drone program' alone, is probably the biggest global terror campaign and one of the biggest violations to international law in history. 

Sanders, unlike Obama who was virtually unknown before running for president, has a long history of activism and politics so I would be more inclined to believe his belief in his agenda and his main agenda has been to break up the big banks. Now, I don't believe that Sanders will get elected, but in the unlikely scenario that he did, that agenda is simply unattainable in the US. 

On the other issues, Sanders who actually is independent and is not a democrat, will have no backing in either houses not to mention most importantly that every lobbying group will be working against him. SO I really doubt he can actually make any of that come true.

What Sanders might be able to do, though, if he is elected, is small changes like blocking the Keystone pipeline, consolidating LGBTQ rights, shrinking the wage gap for women, reinforcing planned parenthood...etc. Obviously not nearly the required change, but also undoubtedly better than having Ted Cruz in office. 

While I agree with you on everything there really isn't a wage gap in the conventional sense.

http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=hire_women

 

 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

18 minutes ago, Spike said:

While I agree with you on everything there really isn't a wage gap in the conventional sense.

http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=hire_women

 

 

Is that you in the video?

Yeah, but tbf, the wage gap does not have to compare likes for likes because the notion has come to include (while not scientifically accurate) the fact that women with the exact same qualification of men are less likely to get hired and once hired less likely to get promoted. Which makes total sense since the salary for a certain position is usually decided by company policies which do not have gender biases, but decisions to hire and promote are done by individuals who may have subconscious gender biases. 

[Spike 12,049]

Just now, CHOULO19 said:

Is that you in the video?

Yeah, but tbf, the wage gap does not have to compare likes for likes because the notion has come to include (while not scientifically accurate) the fact that women with the exact same qualification of men are less likely to get hired and once hired less likely to get promoted. Which makes total sense since the salary for a certain position is usually decided by company policies which do not have gender biases, but decisions to hire and promote are done by individuals who may have subconscience gender biases. 

 

What makes you think it is me? Is it the aggression or the abrasiveness? 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

What makes you think it is me? Is it the aggression or the abrasiveness? 

Mostly the punchable face, but yeah, sure, the abrasiveness too...

[CHOULO19 24,332]

@Spike coincidentally I just came across this video that was uploaded today: 

 

[Spike 12,049]

1 minute ago, CHOULO19 said:

@Spike coincidentally I just came across this video that was uploaded today: 

 

Great video that further proves that it isn't as simple as the frothing morons would have you believe. There are activists out there that use the 'pay gap' as an argument when they don't even understand the complex dynamics of it. There are so many variables it is absolutely mind numbing, nice find on the vid N.

For example, an entry-level fry cook at MacDonalds is always going to urn the same wage, no matter the gender. It might change on state and location but if you, myself and two other women were working the frying machines and held the same 'position' at the establishment I'd wager that we'd all earn exactly minimum wage. 

 

[Kieran. 6,317]

Racism toward PoC = housing segregation, children shot in the park for a toy gun, foreign policies that describe every Muslim man that is "military age" is considered a 'militant' when killed in a drone strike

Racism towards whites = hurt feelings over a mug

just saying.

[Spike 12,049]

1 hour ago, Kieran. said:

Racism toward PoC = housing segregation, children shot in the park for a toy gun, foreign policies that describe every Muslim man that is "military age" is considered a 'militant' when killed in a drone strike

Racism towards whites = hurt feelings over a mug

just saying.

 

Come now, you don't need to resort to exaggerating what I meant and mocking it. You know I meant on a minor social scale and not foreign policies and economical issues. I don't even know why you are comparing the two, because I wasn't. You know very well I'm all for equality so why are you twisting my words so and making me look like a child comparing my minor social issue (which I stated was so) to yours? This isn't a competition who is persecuted the most. If I had my way neither would exist in the world.

It is as petty as the people complaining about the Oscars. It detracts from the real issues. Besides, you know it's not about the cup but the hypocrisy of it. How on earth can people stop bombing, killing, slaughtering and prosecuting each other when they can't even cut out the petty stuff?

I am not a PoC? Why aren't I a colour? I feel very coloured. I'm red when I'm hot, blue when I'm cold and green when I get sick. I get brown and red  from the sun and pale from lack of it. Aren't we all coloured at the end of the day? The term is nonsense.

I've experienced racism, I'll have you know. I've probably told you before but that doesn't matter, I'm not comparing it to the social injustices of the world but to me it was quite difficult; especially when I was 13 being bullied by a 17 year old. Racism from the smallest scale, to the largest is important and I don't know why you would be indifferent (or seem to be) to the former.

You are too damn smart to be taking what I say out of context like that. Ah, fuck it, it doesn't matter, I'm going to have a drink. 

[quickpassnmove 924]

None of us know what could happen if campaign finance were changed along with imposed term limits and other restrictions. All we keep is hearing underneath (or above) all the noise is: "no, we cannot change beyond the status quo." And, unless you're confused about what the status quo is, it's still Reaganomics in the Age of Big Business and global neo-liberalism, welfare for the rich, rugged individualism for the poor (call it all the "20th century Petrol Jeezus Economy of Worshipping Money and the Rich (and false hopes)." 

My suggestion is stop passively accepting what we are told is "pragmatic" and "possible," and metaphorically get off your knees, join with fellow working people regardless of race, and demand a better standard of living without fear of the Other or taboos like.... ohhhhhh, >socialism<.

I like this quote from the back of the latest Ferguson book: "My job was to make everyone understand that the impossible was possible.  That's the difference between leadership and management."

Passive consumerism and more "management" of the neo-liberal status quo will only result in more stagnating and falling wages, with the majority having little or zero capital ownership.

I'll leave it with this: 

 

[Spike 12,049]

Well isn't this fantastic?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-shaq-gainesville-officer-teens-pickup-basketball-game-20160124-story.htm

A bit of pick-me-up news in the recent and constant doom and gloom.

 

 

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

The new metacommunist economic system is the product of an unholy matrimony between marxism and Mussolini's fascism.
Only big corporations and nothing else. This differs from the stalinist model in which all the landowners / factory owners are arrested and executed. But in what regards the jew-hunting against private enterprise it is exactly the same.
When Stalin conquered the Baltics in 1939 he proceeded to rob the 90 year old grannies from the few coins they had from social security and left them with nothing. It's the same now with the elitist metacommunist system.
The right wing rejoice but the left wing also rejoice (mainly the idle do-nothing layabout state employees).
It resembles the Hitler regime, which was a populist cult really with some quasi-socialist ideas but with capitalists at the head of affairs (Krupp-Opel etc). But in Hitler's time it was not practical to have a capitalist system and at the same time turn against the small to medium sized businesses (unless they were Jewish of course ...). So we don't know what Hitler might have said about his great grand children. Possibly pat them in the back.
We talk about millions and millions of new unemployed as a result of the abolition of the "small shop in the corner". This of course spells war and rebellion ultimately, but the metacommunists are not even thinking about taking a step back.