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33 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

"An AR-15 style semiautomatic rifle was used in the Butler shooting. These are the guns the Republican Party—and Trump—want to protect."

A Colt AR-15 has a range of 550 meters, not sure how far away this guy was, but he's either a crap shot which leads me to believe he has no training with these types of firearms or he has absolutely no knowledge or done his home work at all about the type of rifle he was using, if he was more than 550 meters away then it's down to pure luck to where that round ends up.

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9 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

A Colt AR-15 has a range of 550 meters, not sure how far away this guy was, but he's either a crap shot which leads me to believe he has no training with these types of firearms or he has absolutely no knowledge or done his home work at all about the type of rifle he was using, if he was more than 550 meters away then it's down to pure luck to where that round ends up.

Think he got the gun from his dads armoury. 

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Bullet takes 1-1.5 tenths of a second to travel that distance.
It's possible for the taget to move a little.
It's a nose up - nose down if you think of it in relation to horses, physically possible.

 

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7 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Bullet takes 1-1.5 tenths of a second to travel that distance.
It's possible for the taget to move a little.
It's a nose up - nose down if you think of it in relation to horses, physically possible.

 

Wind and air temperature also play apart, obviously this has more effect the further the distance.

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8 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

T-shirts with image of Trump raising his fist after assassination attempt are for sale and are made in China

AP News

It shows how flawed commie thinking is.
Create a MAGA hero out of nothing.
Though I 'm not familiar with the inner workings of the republican party, the pressure to nominate as candidate someone just as crazy would have been immense and rather irresistible.

 

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https://prospect.org/politics/2024-07-15-dangerous-authoritarian-russell-vought-trumps-grand-vizier/

 

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Then-President Donald Trump listens as acting director of the Office of Management and Budget Russell Vought speaks during an event at the White House, October 9, 2019, in Washington.

 

Christian nationalism is a dangerous, far-right ideology that advocates abolishing the separation of church and state, and on behalf of a truly warped religious vision. Indeed, Christians opposed to Christian nationalism have denounced it as a “cover for white supremacy and racial subjugation,” a theocratic and fascist movement with no trace of the radical generosity shown by Jesus in the Bible. Borrowing from the “great replacement” conspiracy theory, which claims that welcoming nonwhite immigrants into Western countries is a plot to supplant the cultural and political influence of white people, Christian nationalism has influenced acts of racist violence, such as the deadly shooting at Mother Emanuel AME Church in 2015.

So it’s alarming that this is the ideological worldview espoused by Russell Vought, a career conservative activist and former Office of Management and Budget (OMB) director under President Trump, who is reportedly under consideration to be White House chief of staff in a potential second Trump administration. Currently, Vought leads a Trump-aligned think tank, the Center for Renewing America, producing endless reams of viciously cruel proposals.

For decades, Vought has been something of a reverse Robin Hood. Some examples include: leading a pressure campaign while at the Heritage Foundation urging Republicans to repeal the Affordable Care Act; heading up the Republican Study Committee (RSC), during a time when the ultraconservative caucus wrote a “highly unbalanced” budget (which is to say, it was full of tax cuts for the rich and austerity for the poor) to offset relief efforts after Hurricane Katrina; heading policy for the House Republican Conference; and of course working under the Trump OMB. Vought seems to have a particular animus toward programs helping the very worst-off. He drafted a cruel budget where he proposed eliminating the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP), which provides federal assistance to cover utility costs for low-income families, cutting nutrition assistance for low-income families, and throwing 90,000 children off of the Head Start program, which helps children from low-income families with their cognitive, emotional, and social development.

After all, who can forget the part of the Sermon on the Mount where Jesus says, “Blessed are those who snatch bread out of the mouths of widows and orphans?”

Vought’s contempt for his fellow Americans is not limited to the poor and children—civil servants also draw his ire. He has long advocated for the Schedule F policy initiative, which would allow for the dismissal of up to 50,000 federal civil servants (to be replaced by Trump lickspittles and toadies) in a bid to purge the so-called “deep state.” President Biden rescinded Trump’s Schedule F executive order before any employees were affected, but Vought is one of the chief architects of Project 2025’s plan to resurrect Schedule F—and this time it would be done right away, rather than at the end of the administration. Nonpartisan federal employees, including those with specialized expertise, would be replaced with witless Trump acolytes by the tens of thousands.

Needing an outlet for his Christian nationalism after leaving the White House, Vought locked arms with other Trump devotees and founded an organization under the Conservative Partnership Institute (CPI) umbrella called the Center for Renewing America (CRA). CRA hosts a clown car of former Trump officials such as the recently indicted Jeffrey Clark, Ken Cuccinelli, and Kash Patel. CRA was founded on the premise of renewing “consensus of America as a nation under God with unique interests worthy of defending that flow from its people, institutions, and history, where individuals’ enjoyment of freedom is predicated on just laws and healthy communities.” The think tank’s “Christian” bona fides truly shine through with charitable policy proposals such as utilizing state war powers to target undocumented immigrants, opposing DEI or any other “woke” social measures, fighting the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, and enthusiastically supporting voter suppression.

CRA, as part of CPI, lays the groundwork for potential policymaking and lobbying efforts in a hypothetical second Trump administration. Vought affirmed his Christian nationalist beliefs in a CRA document revealing that he and his influential think tank plan to infuse Christian nationalism into the very fabric of the federal government. In the same document, CRA proposed invoking the Insurrection Act to quell protests and prohibiting use of congressional funds for specific projects.

Vought’s efforts to provide the infrastructure for a second Trump administration do not end with CRA. As noted above, he is also involved with Project 2025, for which he wrote a section of the Mandate for Leadership memo. In it, he interprets the Constitution as giving the president full control over the executive branch—no more independent agencies overseen by Congress, but just the office of the president. The former OMB director goes so far as to say that civil servants and Congress effectively get in the way of a conservative executive branch.

Vought has chastised “the Left’s legal theorists” for adopting “an approach to interpreting the Constitution based on it being a ‘living’ document, meaning that its provisions should be understood to be malleable, keeping up with a modernizing nation.” But if the left has a flexible view of the Constitution, Vought wants to burn it to ashes. There can be no other conclusion when someone supports Trump, a man who attempted to overthrow the very concept of government by “we the people” and install himself as dictator. As Politico’s Heidi Przybyla put it, Christian nationalists are “bound” by the belief that inalienable rights—for them, not for others—come from God, not the law.

When the office of the White House chief of staff was established in 1953 under the Eisenhower administration, it was meant to help guide the president through the policymaking process and coordinate with the federal government. Russell Vought would turn the position into a sort of grand vizier for King Trump. Such a man, who spits on the Constitution, hates civil servants, Congress, and democracy itself, has no business anywhere near power.

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My Trump assassination attempt theories:

1) Lone assassin, madman. Probable. In my bookkeeping about half the assassinations and attempts on political persons are lone assassins - deranged individuals.
2) A sort of flawed logic of the lone assassin or of the conspirators, in which the reps were going to nominate a non-MAGA, harmless moderate if Trump dies.
3) Putin conspiracy to make Trump clear favourite.

If it was Putin it has a logic. Trump before the attempt was a mere 2% ahead in the polls. Would that last ? Same time of the year in 1988 Dukakis was 6% ahead of Bush but lost decisively.
So do this to make it sure MAGA wins, or Trump himself wins if he survives.
That of course requires turning Crooks into a robot man. This kind of thing though difficult to believe is part of many conspiracy theories.

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43 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

My Trump assassination attempt theories:

1) Lone assassin, madman. Probable. In my bookkeeping about half the assassinations and attempts on political persons are lone assassins - deranged individuals.
2) A sort of flawed logic of the lone assassin or of the conspirators, in which the reps were going to nominate a non-MAGA, harmless moderate if Trump dies.
3) Putin conspiracy to make Trump clear favourite.

If it was Putin it has a logic. Trump before the attempt was a mere 2% ahead in the polls. Would that last ? Same time of the year in 1988 Dukakis was 6% ahead of Bush but lost decisively.
So do this to make it sure MAGA wins, or Trump himself wins if he survives.
That of course requires turning Crooks into a robot man. This kind of thing though difficult to believe is part of many conspiracy theories.

Where is deep state theory?

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14 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Conspiracy theories are so fucking stupid. 😆

There is irrefutable evidence proving that the shooter was a democrat: he missed.

For Lee Harvey Oswald too there is irrefutable evidence he was a Castro lover yet there are strong indications of a conspiracy.

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