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It was different with us and Shakhtar. We had the same number of points but they had better head to head record (by conceiding less goals in the home fixture). However in that case there were only two teams in question. In the possibility that I suggested we have 3 teams with the same number of points with their head to head records cancelling each other out.

Actually, there is a similar situation in the standings in that group right now.

23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png Arsenal 3 2 0 1 5 3 +2 6

23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Borussia Dortmund 3 2 0 1 6 3 +3 6

23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png Napoli 3 2 0 1 4 4 0 6

23px-Flag_of_France.svg.png Marseille 3 0 0 3 2 7 −5 0

Considering we are looking the head to head games: Arsenal beat Napoli but lost to Dortmund, while Dortmund on the other hand lost to Napoli and all the teams are tied in points. So why are Arsenal first? The head to head tiebreaker is not working under these conditions and Dortmund have better goal difference.

If 3 teams are on the same number of points in the group stage, then the rules to determine their position becomes different.

If in the group stage of the Champions League two or more teams finish equal on points after all the group matches have been played, the following criteria are applied to determine the group rankings:

1. Higher number of points obtained in the matches between the teams in question

2. Superior goal difference from the matches between the teams in question

3. Higher number of goals scored away from home in the matches between the teams in question

4. Superior goal difference from all group matches played

5. Higher number of goals scored

6. Coefficient points accumulated by the club in question, as well as its association, over the previous five seasons

Source: http://uefa-champions-league010.page.tl/How-we-play-it-.htm

What this means then is a mini-league will be created involving those teams. So in this case and going by the first rule there, Arsenal, Dortmund and Napoli have all beaten and lost to one another.

Arsenal

W - Napoli 2-0

L - Dortmund 1-2

Dortmund

L - Napoli 1-2

W - Arsenal 2-1

Napoli

W - Dortmund 2-1

L - Arsenal 0-2

Each of them have 3 points in this mini league and because of this, we then go to the second rule and look at the GD of the teams in matches between them. Arsenal have a GD 1, Dortmund GD 0 and Napoli GD -1.

Hence, this is why Arsenal are still top of their group, Dortmund in second despite having better GD and Napoli in third.

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If 3 teams are on the same number of points in the group stage, then the rules to determine their position becomes different.

What this means then is a mini-league will be created involving those teams. So in this case and going by the first rule there, Arsenal, Dortmund and Napoli have all beaten and lost to one another.

Arsenal

W - Napoli 2-0

L - Dortmund 1-2

Dortmund

L - Napoli 1-2

W - Arsenal 2-1

Napoli

W - Dortmund 2-1

L - Arsenal 0-2

Each of them have 3 points in this mini league and because of this, we then go to the second rule and look at the GD of the teams in matches between then. Arsenal have a GD 1, Dortmund GD 0 and Napoli GD -1.

Hence, this is why Arsenal are still top of their group, Dortmund in second despite having better GD and Napoli in third.

Thanks, I think that clears it up. Anyway It's highly unlikely to have the need to apply those rules in the end.

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