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What a fucking night. Perfect, just perfect. Nothing coulda made me more happy than what happened tonight. Not just with us, but with all the games combined. Arsenal are now in a bit of shit after being the best team destined for the quadruple yesterday... Napoli winning has put them under pressure and Steaua equalising has given us a bit of breathing space.

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arsenal group

after round 3

arsenal - 6 points

napoli - 6 points

bvb - 6 points

after round 4 (expectations)

arsenal - 6 points

bvb - 9 points

napoli - 9 points

after round 5 (expectations)

arsenal - 9 points

bvb - 12 points

napoli - 9 points

so in the end according to me, it would all come down to the napoli-arsenal fixture. napoli will have to win it as a draw would send arsenal to 2nd on head to head. the best thing would be napoli is able to get a point off bvb (away) in round 5 (improbable) or arsenal drop points to marseille at emirates (can happen after seeing arsenal's fixtures

palace (away) - PL

chelsea (home) - COC

liverpool (home) - PL

dortmund (away) - CL

united (away) - PL

southampton (home) - PL

marseille (home) - CL.

really tough fixtures and as we all know, once they start fucking over, arsenal dont stop. lets all hope for the best and hope that arsenal fuck up big time!!!

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Just had a look at Arsenal's group again and was thinking of the following scenario. Knowing that head to head games is the primary tiebreaker when two teams finish with equal points, then what's the procedure if:

1. Dortmund, Napoli and Arsenal finish equal on points

2. Dortmund have better head to head record against Arsenal

3. Napoli have better head to head record against Dortmund

4. Arsenal have better head to head record against Napoli

If that happens then head to head games are ignored and the criteria is the teams' goal difference in all the matches, right?

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Just had a look at Arsenal's group again and was thinking of the following scenario. Knowing that head to head games is the primary tiebreaker when two teams finish with equal points, then what's the procedure if:

1. Dortmund, Napoli and Arsenal finish equal on points

2. Dortmund have better head to head record against Arsenal

3. Napoli have better head to head record against Dortmund

4. Arsenal have better head to head record against Napoli

If that happens then head to head games are ignored and the criteria is the teams' goal difference in all the matches, right?

That will only happen if the three teams beat each other with the exact same result. Otherwise it will go down to away goals or whatever (like it happened to us and Shakthar last year).

For instance: BVB beat Arsenal 2-0, Napoli beat BVB 2-0 and Arsenal beat Napoli 2-0. Then it will go to goals difference or whatever.

But that cant happen anymore....

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That will only happen if the three teams beat each other with the exact same result. Otherwise it will go down to away goals or whatever (like it happened to us and Shakthar last year).

For instance: BVB beat Arsenal 2-0, Napoli beat BVB 2-0 and Arsenal beat Napoli 2-0. Then it will go to goals difference or whatever.

But that cant happen anymore....

I see, you are a bit confused here or whatever ? :blink:

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That will only happen if the three teams beat each other with the exact same result. Otherwise it will go down to away goals or whatever (like it happened to us and Shakthar last year).

For instance: BVB beat Arsenal 2-0, Napoli beat BVB 2-0 and Arsenal beat Napoli 2-0. Then it will go to goals difference or whatever.

But that cant happen anymore....

It was different with us and Shakhtar. We had the same number of points but they had better head to head record (by conceiding less goals in the home fixture). However in that case there were only two teams in question. In the possibility that I suggested we have 3 teams with the same number of points with their head to head records cancelling each other out.

Actually, there is a similar situation in the standings in that group right now.

23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png Arsenal 3 2 0 1 5 3 +2 6

23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Borussia Dortmund 3 2 0 1 6 3 +3 6

23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png Napoli 3 2 0 1 4 4 0 6

23px-Flag_of_France.svg.png Marseille 3 0 0 3 2 7 −5 0

Considering we are looking the head to head games: Arsenal beat Napoli but lost to Dortmund, while Dortmund on the other hand lost to Napoli and all the teams are tied in points. So why are Arsenal first? The head to head tiebreaker is not working under these conditions and Dortmund have better goal difference.

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