OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I was at the U21s international last night and whilst Ruben had a good game, he was by no means outstanding. He took his goal well, but he was lazy and frequently couldn't be bothered tracking back to help his team. On top of that, his finishing was poor and realistically should have at least doubled his goal tally.The people calling him "our best midfielder" are, I'm afraid, well wide of the mark. He has a talent for sure, but let's not overhype him. At the minute, he is a decent young player, but lightyears behind the Luke Shaws, Ross Barkleys, etc. of this world in terms of his development.Thank you Alex, it's refreshing to read the truth.I love Ruben and have hope that he'll make it but that which was his major flaw two-and-a-half years ago, is still his major flaw. He simply is not busy enough and that applies equally as much when his team has the ball, as when it does not. You've spoken about the situation when his side is out of possession but Ruben also does not work hard enough to get into the play when a team mate is on the ball. He has a tendency to wait for the game to come to him. That's not how he's going to command a place in Chelsea's first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Hopefully Cfc will mould him into top class and help him on his weakness points and play to his strengths,good to see him,Hazard,Willian all hit the back of net . Hopefully Ruben gets a start Saturday has a decent game and keeps himself in the team . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I was at the U21s international last night and whilst Ruben had a good game, he was by no means outstanding. He took his goal well, but he was lazy and frequently couldn't be bothered tracking back to help his team. On top of that, his finishing was poor and realistically should have at least doubled his goal tally.The people calling him "our best midfielder" are, I'm afraid, well wide of the mark. He has a talent for sure, but let's not overhype him. At the minute, he is a decent young player, but lightyears behind the Luke Shaws, Ross Barkleys, etc. of this world in terms of his development.there's still a lot of work to be done with RLC before he's turn into a world class player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 there's still a lot of work to be done with RLC before he's turn into a world class playercan't tell until he's starting games. i think Saturday is where that begins. unless he's with cesc in a 2. then its probably game over. Reddish-Blue and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! BlueLion. 21,491 Posted October 14, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 14, 2015 I was only partly joking about not tracking back but I noticed even on highlights he was was not interested in getting back quicklyThere were two instances when he decided to track back and he won the ball back almost effortlessly, other than that his defensive workload and work rate was minimal, which disappointed me, He was playing as a #10 against a team only intent on defending he wasn't expected to. You call him lazy but I remember him tracking back to win the ball after giving it away with a poor pass. Obviously he isn't WIllian in terms of workrate but he's clearly made strides in that aspect of his game after Jose's public criticism.I agree with you on his poor finishing but he was by far the most creative player on the pitch and his technique was a level above everyone else's.As I said to zolayes, the amount of times he decided to track back is dwarfed by the instances when he simply allowed the opposition to steal a march on him.He is only young, but if he wants to play as a midfielder for Jose Mourinho's Chelsea, he needs to up the intensity of his performances big style. Thank you Alex, it's refreshing to read the truth.I love Ruben and have hope that he'll make it but that which was his major flaw two-and-a-half years ago, is still his major flaw. He simply is not busy enough and that applies equally as much when his team has the ball, as when it does not. You've spoken about the situation when his side is out of possession but Ruben also does not work hard enough to get into the play when a team mate is on the ball. He has a tendency to wait for the game to come to him. That's not how he's going to command a place in Chelsea's first team.Totally agreed with you. I went yesterday with the club where I coach, as we were given free tickets by the FA. I took my notepad and took notes on his performance and Lewis Baker's. I'll scan in what I wrote as the game progressed. there's still a lot of work to be done with RLC before he's turn into a world class playerTotally agree. But he definitely has the potential. These certainly are by no means the most comprehensive notes I've ever made, but you may be interested reading my notes on Loftus Cheek and Baker from Tuesday's England U21s fixture.Apologies for the shocking handwriting: the wes, didierforever, lucio and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Ruben Loftus-Cheek vs Kazakhstan (Home) 13/10/2015 HD herpthederp and lucio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Ruben Loftus-Cheek - the man to save Jose Mourinho and rescue Chelsea's season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Really good for him that Steve Holland is also in the England set up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,506 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I was at the U21s international last night and whilst Ruben had a good game, he was by no means outstanding. He took his goal well, but he was lazy and frequently couldn't be bothered tracking back to help his team. On top of that, his finishing was poor and realistically should have at least doubled his goal tally.The people calling him "our best midfielder" are, I'm afraid, well wide of the mark. He has a talent for sure, but let's not overhype him. At the minute, he is a decent young player, but lightyears behind the Luke Shaws, Ross Barkleys, etc. of this world in terms of his development.To be fair, Luke Shaw had already played 60 League games for Southampton by the age of 19, which definitely helped 'accelerate' his development Your point about RLC being a decent young player just raises the same question from the transfer window, why didn't we sign a quality CM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Ruben Loftus-Cheek - the man to save Jose Mourinho and rescue Chelsea's season?Wow. To be fair, Luke Shaw had already played 60 League games for Southampton by the age of 19, which definitely helped 'accelerate' his development Your point about RLC being a decent young player just raises the same question from the transfer window, why didn't we sign a quality CM? I believe we were in for Pogba, but ended up getting priced out. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Ruben Loftus-Cheek - the man to save Jose Mourinho and rescue Chelsea's season?And so it begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 To be fair, Luke Shaw had already played 60 League games for Southampton by the age of 19, which definitely helped 'accelerate' his development Your point about RLC being a decent young player just raises the same question from the transfer window, why didn't we sign a quality CM? If 13/14 was anything to go by we are probably waiting for the right player, I mean, when Jose returned he could have seen the CM issue panic and sign Guarin and Paulinho, instead he waited and we ended up with Matic and Cesc. BlueLion. and LDN Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Mourinho gives his reason why he pulled RLC off at half time http://www.westlondonsport.com/chelsea/mourinho-explains-loftus-cheek-substitution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! !Hazard! 3,394 Posted October 18, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 18, 2015 So Hazard doesn't defend enough, RLC doesn't defend enough.....and yet he keeps Cesc on the pitch week after week. Jose has lost it beyond repair I'm afraid. He wants to make Eden a fullback and turn our brightest academy talent into another Mikel. I'm lost for words. didierforever, King11Didier, rantdeville and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I still fail to see why he can't play a 4-3-3 with RLC and Matic. Does he see Ruben as a DM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I still fail to see why he can't play a 4-3-3 with RLC and Matic. Does he see Ruben as a DM?he wasn't a DM yesterday so im not sure. 433 with him and matic , is clearly our best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Ruben Loftus-Cheek vs Aston Villa (Home) 17/10/2015 HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmhdPFdR0bYIMO Ruben Loftus-Cheek was having a good performance yesterday. I don't understand why Jose sent him to the bench.For me His best position is as pure midfielder, not N.10, but he needs to accumulate minutes in our first team and maybe N.10 position is best for him to acquire more experience.If I'm honest I would not change Paul Pogba instead of Ruben Loftus-Cheek under any circumstances. RLC is an extraordinary player and he can become one of the best players in the world in a short time.Hopefully Jose decided to bet heavily on him because RLC is ready. In fact, he should be in our starting eleven from now until the end of the season. I Do not see any reason to do not bet on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 He lacks a specialty. That hurts him as a player. Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 He's a great player our manager is just a joke. He really played him as a #10 and phased him out the game. He barely touched the ball. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Ruben Loftus-Cheek vs Aston Villa (Home) 17/10/2015 HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmhdPFdR0bYIMO Ruben Loftus-Cheek was having a good performance yesterday. I don't understand why Jose sent him to the bench.For me His best position is as pure midfielder, not N.10, but he needs to accumulate minutes in our first team and maybe N.10 position is best for him to acquire more experience.If I'm honest I would not change Paul Pogba instead of Ruben Loftus-Cheek under any circumstances. RLC is an extraordinary player and he can become one of the best players in the world in a short time.Hopefully Jose decided to bet heavily on him because RLC is ready. In fact, he should be in our starting eleven from now until the end of the season. I Do not see any reason to do not bet on him.Good performance? The video you posted only confirmed my initial feelings after his performance. Just look at it. He did nothing. Even worse, he constantly lost possession.I didn't think taking him off was undeserved tbh. Cesc was poor as well but Mourinho was always going to stick with him rather than RLC, most managers would. Greater chance of him turning his performance around (which he kind of did) and he's more likely to produce a match-winning moment.I hope to see more of him though. Maybe a three-man midfield with Cesc, Matic and RLC against Kiev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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