🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Patrick Bamford

[Tomo 21,751]

Happy to see that he's cutting his loan short. A move to another Prem side would be ideal, but playing time is a must wherever he ends up

Why does it have to be a must? Just because they are on loan from Chelsea doesn't make playing time compulsory, that way ones that do play (Ake) are playing because they deserve it.

[-Kaplan- 410]

Can we send him to Newcastle?

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[BlueLion. 21,491]

Swansea thinking about offloading Gomis if they can get Bamford on loan.

[LAM09 7,056]

Why does it have to be a must? Just because they are on loan from Chelsea doesn't make playing time compulsory, that way ones that do play (Ake) are playing because they deserve it.

I'm talking about being given a chance to find form. That wasn't the case at Palace and he has essentially wasted 5 months. I didn't say he has to be a guaranteed starter, but chances of playing have to be a higher priority than joining a good club. I think Villa could be the ideal place for him in a sense. However, it looks like it would be a losing battle to keep them up and possibly wouldn't be a great experience.

[Ossie the King 634]

Give the lad a go here. For years we've said young players could benefit from a loan to a team in the bottom of the Premier League....well WE'RE that team now.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,076]

if the way we've handled the kids for years now under many managers doesn't give you a clue about how it works, then I don't know what else does.

Then there's the tweet just above my post to reinforce what everybody already felt would happen, he won't be here because the manager (or whoever is behind this decision in addition to Hiddink) doesn't want him in the squad.

Thanks Barbara. Hope you are well.

I don't agree with you on this.

It is true of course that we have failed to produce any first teamers through the academy for more than a decade but I do not believe this is because we're not trying. I'm convinced that we are trying hard but, for one reason or another, we are not very good at it. If any Cobham graduates had gone on to have top level careers elsewhere then maybe the claim could be made that we are ignoring young talent that deserves to be picked. The only possible example, Bertrand, is a debatable one in my opinion and, in any case, was not fully schooled at Cobham.

I have been a long term defender of the academy and feel that we have only just reached the time when we can begin to judge their work. It takes a long time to set up a facility, its systems and its staff. Then it takes much, much longer to take 8 year old lads through the programme to first team age. It is still early days for Cobham. Having said that my early judgement on Cobham is must do better.

I approved of the dismissal of Dermot Drummy. It was spun differently of course but he was moved sideways and rightly so. I am concerned however that we still don't have the coaching staff right. Our coaches have not, in my opinion, made RLC into the best player he can be and, equally worrying, Jeremie Boga is no better a footballer today than he was 3 years ago. In both cases the flaws in their games are things which can be coached yet the flaws remain. This is the real problem in my opinion. It's not that we are ignoring the talent, it's that we're not producing it to the required standard. The law of averages says a club isn't going to get many recruits of the right calibre in the first place so we can't afford to waste the ones we do find.

Apologies for the length of this but there is one more point I'd like to make. All that an academy can honestly promise a young recruit is that they will help him become the best player he can possibly be. If that turns out to be up to the level which matches Chelsea's ambition then great, but if not then help the young man find another club and collect a transfer fee for him if appropriate. In other words, there is no distinction between what the academy needs to do to produce Chelsea players and what it must do to make a profit. In either case, just turn out the best footballers possible. The profit or player debate is therefore a non issue as far as I'm concerned.

P.S. The manager does not want Patrick because, as I said when I saw him play for our development squads a few years ago, he isn't good enough. At least that's my opinion anyway.

[coolhead23 1,147]

We played without a striker against United ... And we have "a" striker available to us!!! He isn't in the plan of the gaffer ... seriously WTF!!!

Atleast now give him a chance, goddamn it!!! Someone mentioned it above that we have become the team to breed young players ... so plz keep to the tradition!!!

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

Chelsea could offer Patrick Bamford first-team chance despite failed loan spell at Crystal Palace. #CFC (Mail)

Guus Hiddink is understood to have sought advice from Ray Wilkins after they worked together at Chelsea in 2009. #CFC (Mail)

Ray Wilkins rates Bamford and suggested he stay, telling Hiddink that the forward can help solve their problems in front of goal #CFC (Mail)

 

[jernej93 569]

He could reach Harry Kane level .. here, I said it 

He was player of the year in Championship least year, he has got qualities in front of goal. He should be in Boro for one more season and he could win them promotion this year but now he is here ... so give him a proper chance or a proper loan where he can build on his confidence. Him and Solanke are our future in attack !! 

[Special Juan 28,141]

Start him at the weekend, go on I really dare you to take a chance and give the lad a shot Guus.

It's time these lads got a chance, grow some fucking balls and play them.

[didierforever 7,349]

10 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Start him at the weekend, go on I really dare you to take a chance and give the lad a shot Guus.

It's time these lads got a chance, grow some fucking balls and play them.

THIS. exactly THIS!!!

[Tomo 21,751]

I know theirs a desperation around playing youth player's, but could we atleast play players who are good enough or at least have the potential to be.

Bamford is neither it would be like United playing Nick Powell, complete waste of time for both parties.

[azinopik 10]

is there any chance for Bamford to play against West Brom if Costa still injured?

if we register him now as Chelsea player, will it make him unavailable for loan? 

[Yeboii 1,844]

19 minutes ago, azinopik said:

is there any chance for Bamford to play against West Brom if Costa still injured?

if we register him now as Chelsea player, will it make him unavailable for loan? 

Traoré would probably play. Have not seen that Bamford has been registered.

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

29 minutes ago, azinopik said:

is there any chance for Bamford to play against West Brom if Costa still injured?

if we register him now as Chelsea player, will it make him unavailable for loan? 

If Bamford was to play for Chelsea against West Brom, he wouldn't be able to play for another club this season. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Traore > Bamford

 

Traore scored 10 or 11 goals for Vitesse upfront last year after being shifted there. Give him a go ahead of Bamford, hes a much better talent. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,076]

10 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Traore > Bamford

 

Traore scored 10 or 11 goals for Vitesse upfront last year after being shifted there. Give him a go ahead of Bamford, hes a much better talent. 

Whether Bertrand can carry our ambitions up top is far from certain but I definitely agree that he's the better talent of the two.

[the wes 7,212]

Patrick Bamford must prove himself with Chelsea under-21s before he can be given a chance to shine with the senior side, according to Guus Hiddink.

[BleachedList 1]

Delete my account plz!

[Kieran. 6,317]

Scored 2 against QPR u-21s.