Kevin de Bruyne

[zolayes 14,489]

Well from all the AM we played in the last 2 seasons De Bruyne and Salah were by far the worse ones. Schurrle was better and is also out.

Another mistake possibly

[Weckerz 3,781]

Well from all the AM we played in the last 2 seasons De Bruyne and Salah were by far the worse ones. Schurrle was better and is also out.

More facts?

[Leif 6,006]

we made from his sale what we spend on 2-3 youth players from Nordic countries every few seasons to never be heard of again. perspective.

[Rom2013 446]

Another mistake possibly

Yes... in your apinion we should have 20 AM players, 15 ST, and 10 CB.

[zolayes 14,489]

Yes... in your apinion we should have 20 AM players, 15 ST, and 10 CB.

I n your opinion ( or Apinoin) I suppose we would have 45 Portuguese players .. Pity but the only decent one wouldnt come

[Rom2013 446]

I n your opinion ( or Apinoin) I suppose we would have 45 Portuguese players .. Pity but the only decent one wouldnt come

No we wouldn't, the only one I would have here is Cristiano and obviously at his age he wouldn't be a good buy, and you can check that for example on Moutinho thread of William Carvalho.

About all the the other things you say, it's all really sad

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

I don't know why we were wrong. He is playing well in a worst team than us..

I'd like to see Chelsea play them tomorrow. I wouldn't put any money on the result actually.

[Rom2013 446]

I'd like to see Chelsea play them tomorrow. I wouldn't put any money on the result actually.

I would also. But anyway they are a worst team than us... we also lost agsint Bradford or Newcastle and we are a better team than them.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

I would also. But anyway they are a worst team than us... we also lost agsint Bradford or Newcastle and we are a better team than them.

Yeayea.

You want to be better? Don't lose to them.

If you lose to a team, you're a worse team than that team until you beat them again.

No excuses.

Also, they're still in Europe, Chelsea is not. Have some self respect dude.

Also, I'm slightly drunk \o/

[iseah100 5,612]

Yeayea.

You want to be better? Don't lose to them.

Wtf...

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Wtf...

What?

[Pizy 18,469]

we made from his sale what we spend on 2-3 youth players from Nordic countries every few seasons to never be heard of again. perspective.

Okay, this is a hilarious post.

[lionsden 4,689]

To be fair AVB was just too inexperienced to be manager of Chelsea (or any other top 6 club). Hope he comes back to the EPL in like 5-10 years and proves that he's a good manager

So that makes Jose's treatment of players he doesn't rate ok?

[lionsden 4,689]

All the talk about us making a mistake in letting him go are completely irrelevant because we did not "let him go", he asked to leave, it was his decision.

And I'm one of Kevin's biggest fan since his first spell in Germany and I was always the one to defend him when some of the same people wanting him back now were calling him shit last season. BUT it was clearly not working out for him here for various reasons, some of it because Jose, some because of Kevin himself, and some just down to bad luck.

Maybe had he stayed after Mata left he would have been able to turn it around, but we can only speculate. But we always knew that he was a top talent and obviously so did Wolfsburg and that was reflected in the fee we received. I'm very happy to see him developing so well and proving himself more and more, but that does not in any way change the fact that the deal we got for him was very good.

In a deal where literally ALL the opinions at the time fell between "excellent business" and "take it and run we've ripped Wolfsburg off", you cannot with any legitimacy criticize the club and manager now in retrospective unless your criticism is that the board should have used the time machine in Roman's secret lab to see how he develops at Wolfsburg before agreeing to the deal, and even then it remains a good deal considering the circumstances at the time.

So, I guess what I'm trying to say is, try to be more happy for Kevin and less bitter towards the club.

A decision that was borne out of Jose ostracizing him like he does to every player he doesn't particularly rate or deem good enough to start regularly. He was forced to leave due to his place in the national team for the world cup was at jeopardy due to lack of game time. either way, Jose's stubbornness and reluctance to rotate his squad is toxic and should be rightly criticised . Cuadradro is already experiencing the same treatment.

[Amblève. 4,995]

I was just getting over Sturridge and now this. The only way I get over it quickly is if we get a top class AM in the summer that hits the ground running and shift Oscar to the bench where he belongs.

Out of the club, you mean. I don't even think Oscar has what it takes to be an impact-sub off the bench. It's beyond me how we sold Mata and KDB while Oscar has had about 5 top-class games these last 2 seasons.

[DaddysHobby 60]

24 assists (after the Inter - VfL tie):

- 16 in 25 Bundesliga matches (and 9 goals)
- 2 in 3 DFB-Pokal matches
- 5 in 10 Europa League matches (and 5 goals)

... and 1 in 3 EURO2016 Qs (and 2 goals)

[Stingray 9,441]

Well from all the AM we played in the last 2 seasons De Bruyne and Salah were by far the worse ones. Schurrle was better and is also out.

Lol just stop your 'facts'. You look like The Onion when you present facts [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

[Reddish-Blue 2,372]

So that makes Jose's treatment of players he doesn't rate ok?

I think any top manager with an ego (Jose, Van Gaal, Fergie etc) will clash with players at some point and in most cases, the player is sold or the player asks for a move away

I never said Jose's treatment of players is okay...but he's a top manager and sometimes you have to take the good with the bad.