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55 minutes ago, MCM4PR3Z said:

From the moment De Bruyne arrived here, he was the best player of the club. He was the best player in preseason, he was MOTM in the first PL game. And then we had a sh*t first half against United. And Mourinho offered De Bruyne with the intention of never bringing him back in the team again.

Mourinho hated De Bruyne and made his biggest blunder ever. It remains one of the first things that people think about when they see Mourinho. The guy that couldn't see the talent of De Bruyne.

He wasnt. Think people tend to forget that he really kicked on at Wolfsburg for 18 months. He wasnt given a fair crack here maybe but that cup game he played against a league 1 team he was so poor. The Hull game he was good but there was more inform and better suited players to our team when he was here. Saying otherwise is daft.

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2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

He wasnt. Think people tend to forget that he really kicked on at Wolfsburg for 18 months. He wasnt given a fair crack here maybe but that cup game he played against a league 1 team he was so poor. The Hull game he was good but there was more inform and better suited players to our team when he was here. Saying otherwise is daft.

Yet a blind man could see his undeniable quality. He showed it at Genk, he showed it At Bremen. He was the best midfielder in Bundesliga even back then. This incredible free kick he scored today I had seen him score those for Genk already. He just got more consistent with age which was to be expected. There can be no excuses for Mourinho. 

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11 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

Yet a blind man could see his undeniable quality. He showed it at Genk, he showed it At Bremen. He was the best midfielder in Bundesliga even back then. This incredible free kick he scored today I had seen him score those for Genk already. He just got more consistent with age which was to be expected. There can be no excuses for Mourinho. 

Definitely but it is a stretch to say that when he came from Genk or even back from Bremen he was our best player straight away which is what I was replying to. 

Mata had just come off a huge couple of seasons. Hazard was also here. There was also a great deal of hope around Willian when he signed (maybe because how he played against us the previous season and I also think because Spurs wanted him) and I think that the signing of him and the clubs persistence in bringing Schurrle that summer always meant at least 2 of the attacking midfield players would always struggle for playing time and ultimately end up leaving either on loan or permanently. It is a shame that it was Mata and De Bruyne who didnt stay as opposed to Oscar and Schurrle but at the time, the 55mn recouped was well invested considering Matic cost 21mn and Salah (who for me I think seeing what he has done now in a position we’ve really lacked a regular goalscoring player in was just as big a loss if not more - imagine him playing where Pedro did in Conte’s system for instance or Sarri’s) for 11mn.

Both obviously were hugely talented and we've seen the aftermath and heard all the quotes from Conte, several sky sports pundits and De Bruyne going on about Mourinho mentioning the running/tackling/interception stats to him in a meeting as well as whoever else has gone on about it. Those mistakes will scar Mourinho’s reputation a wee bit but still what he's done in the game in the last 20 years its hardly going to affect him hugely. I still think those moves definitely would of made them better than Mourinho would have as well. Young players haven't really been hugely common in Mourinho’s most successful teams plus his short term mindset was always going to work against the clubs idea of developing young players just like Villas-Boas’ lack of prioritising the present worked against him here too among other things. 

Plus in terms of how that season finished with Jose and then next year when we won the league next season, I dont think people really complained overly too much about missing Mata or De Bruyne either because their was always more talk of us needing a top CF (Costa), LB (Filipe Luis) and a deep lying playmaker (Cesc) to make that team work and compete for the league.

It was always said, Jose had said it himself, many might have recognised Kevin and Salah’s talent but I do believe that nobody was saying when we finished 3rd and went into the summer window that we really lacked those players especially. That squad after making those signings (Cesc, Costa, Filipe Luis, recalling Courtois), again nobody really talked about Chelsea lacking De Bruyne or Salah. 

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6 hours ago, Beigl said:

In my opinion he is the best player in the world.

Mbappe for me is the best on the planet, KDB 2, Messi now 3

pure top 25  global ranking at this exact moment (not cost, not who I would buy, but simply the best players, in order, IMHO)

Kylian Mbappé    
Kevin De Bruyne  
Lionel Messi
Robert Lewandowski  
Cristiano Ronaldo   
Neymar   
Sadio Mané   
Raheem Sterling   
Mohamed Salah    
Joshua Kimmich
Jadon Sancho   
Alphonso Davies
Trent Alexander-Arnold  
Virgil van Dijk    
Jan Oblak  
Saúl Ñíguez  
Alisson  
Paulo Dybala    
Kai Havertz    
Erling Haaland 
Thomas Müller 
Serge Gnabry
Marco Verratti
Sergio Ramos
Ansu Fati

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8 hours ago, shrenshah said:

Best midfielder in europe officially, slipped through our flawed system thanks to Jose :(

And who would have seen this coming when he was 20/21/22? 

Some haven't learned their lesson and are writing off some of our current players in that age group (who have shown quality), the one's that are deserve seeing KDB at City.

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5 hours ago, Tomo said:

And who would have seen this coming when he was 20/21/22? 

Some haven't learned their lesson and are writing off some of our current players in that age group (who have shown quality), the one's that are deserve seeing KDB at City.

We signed KDB in January 2012. That summer I met my younger daughter's then boyfriend for the first time. He's an Arsenal fan but we talked about football anyway. When Hazard joined he asked me if I thought Eden was the best player we had signed. When I told him no, he thought I meant that Rom Lukaku (signed at the start of 11/12) was better. I told him no again and said that we had sent the best new singing out on loan. He told me he never heard of Kevin De Bruyne. Fair enough, nor had I until we signed him, but I then watched a lot of KDB as he finished the 11/12 season back at Genk. I posted, elsewhere, to say that I loved the way that lad played football. In fact I remember that I typed, "I love, love, love, the way he played football."

Mason, Ruben and other recent Cobham graduates are not in Kevin's class.

EDIT: And I knew that about RLC in 2013 when I posted (again elsewhere, I wasn't on TC in those days) that Ruben had virtually no chance of making it anywhere unless he changed his MO and learned to make an impact on football games.

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And who would have seen this coming when he was 20/21/22? 
Some haven't learned their lesson and are writing off some of our current players in that age group (who have shown quality), the one's that are deserve seeing KDB at City.
Mount has not KDB potential. I can guarantee you that.



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