johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Oh dear god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Over your head son ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Telegraph:"Despite the fact De Bruyne could leave Wolfsburg for double what they paid for him, Cheslea have no regrets over letting him leave. De Bruyne claimed he was not told why Jose Mourinho allowed him to go, but club officials at Cheslea insist thereasons were clear. It is understood De Bruyne told Cheslea ’s manager he was not mentally capable of having to compete on a daily basis for a place. De Bruyne [informed Jose Mourinho that he] needed to play in every game to show his best form. Mourinho told De Bruyne he would have to fight for place like the rest of Cheslea players & that is when the player asked to leave". Fernando, TheIceMan and RoyalBlues 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Telegraph:"Despite the fact De Bruyne could leave Wolfsburg for double what they paid for him, Cheslea have no regrets over letting him leave. De Bruyne claimed he was not told why Jose Mourinho allowed him to go, but club officials at Cheslea insist thereasons were clear. It is understood De Bruyne told Cheslea ’s manager he was not mentally capable of having to compete on a daily basis for a place. De Bruyne [informed Jose Mourinho that he] needed to play in every game to show his best form. Mourinho told De Bruyne he would have to fight for place like the rest of Cheslea players & that is when the player asked to leave". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I wish thing's were looked at in context.Player's can leave and be successful elsewhere without it being a mistake to sell them. Ibra, Toure, Cesc and Sanchez have all left Barca and all have done aswell if not better for there new club's than KDB did for Wolfsburg yet did Barca fuck up letting them go? The two aren't mutually exclusive. Leif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Telegraph:"Despite the fact De Bruyne could leave Wolfsburg for double what they paid for him, Cheslea have no regrets over letting him leave. De Bruyne claimed he was not told why Jose Mourinho allowed him to go, but club officials at Cheslea insist thereasons were clear. It is understood De Bruyne told Cheslea ’s manager he was not mentally capable of having to compete on a daily basis for a place. De Bruyne [informed Jose Mourinho that he] needed to play in every game to show his best form. Mourinho told De Bruyne he would have to fight for place like the rest of Cheslea players & that is when the player asked to leave". If that's true, then truly well sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Manchester City’s hopes of signing Kevin De Bruyne have been boosted after contract talks with #Wolfsburg stalled. (Telegraph) #MCFCDespite the fact De Bruyne could leave Wolfsburg for double what they paid for him, #CFC have no regrets over letting him leave. (Telegraph)De Bruyne claimed he was not told why Jose Mourinho allowed him to go, but club officials at #CFC insist the reasons were clear. (Telegraph)It is understood De Bruyne told #CFC’s manager he was not mentally capable of having to compete on a daily basis for a place. (Telegraph)De Bruyne [informed Jose Mourinho that he] needed to play in every game to show his best form (Telegraph) #CFCMourinho told De Bruyne he would have to fight for place like the rest of #CFC players & that is when the player asked to leave. (Telegraph) DH1988 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Kristof Terreur @HLNinEngeland 4h4 hours agoManchester City are ready to offer between £50m & £60m for Kevin De Bruyne. Wolfsburg reluctant to sell, but have offered a new deal. #mcfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Man, I really hope he doesn't come back to the PL. Especially to City. Would be a nightmare and embarrassing for the club when each and every week all of the media and internet reminds us that we sold him for relative peanuts and he's now a star.He'd put up monster stats and look even more fantastic than he does in Germany playing alongside Agüero, Silva, Yaya, etcThink it's inevitable that he ends up back in England unfortunately because no one other than the Spanish giants can afford him now. Bayern won't spend £50m or more on a player. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Man, I really hope he doesn't come back to the PL. Especially to City. Would be a nightmare and embarrassing for the club when each and every week all of the media and internet reminds us that we sold him for relative peanuts and he's now a star.He'd put up monster stats and look even more fantastic than he does in Germany playing alongside Agüero, Silva, Yaya, etcThink it's inevitable that he ends up back in England unfortunately because no one other than the Spanish giants can afford him now. Bayern won't spend £50m or more on a player.Oh no, I'm sure the club is having nightmares over it despite the fact the season after we won the double.And what if he's shit at City? The media will praise us (well, as much as they would praise Chelsea for anything). If he isn't mentally up to compete for his place then he may suffer under competition from Silva and Yaya. City don't need a n10, they need a fullback, a centre back, a defensive midfielder and a central midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Oh no, I'm sure the club is having nightmares over it despite the fact the season after we won the double.And what if he's shit at City? The media will praise us (well, as much as they would praise Chelsea for anything). If he isn't mentally up to compete for his place then he may suffer under competition from Silva and Yaya. City don't need a n10, they need a fullback, a centre back, a defensive midfielder and a central midfielder.He wouldn't be a #10 there, he'd probably play on the right. A front four with Agüero up top, Silva in the middle, and potentially Sterling and De Bruyne on opposite wings is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 He wouldn't be a #10 there, he'd probably play on the right. A front four with Agüero up top, Silva in the middle, and potentially Sterling and De Bruyne on opposite wings is ridiculous. Aguero Sterling Silva De BruyneIt wouldn't be much better than our front 4, quality wise, and would would be inherently poor at tracking back and defending - they'd need better than Fernandinho-Lampard to do that. Matic Cesc would not survive either. They'd need something like Kondogbia - Pogba/Vidal. And for Kompany to remember how to defend.Willian = SterlingDe Bruyne = a less quality HazardAguero = CostaSilva = creator (Cesc) but pushed further up, to make up for the fact that behind them is the most uncreative central midfield ever.It'd be a quality team, but ours is more balanced and our manager is better - we could get a win over them.We have City away second game of the season. It shall be an interesting match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 £50-60m for De Bruyne... Jesus christ. We got an absolute bargain for Hazard. xPetrCechx and Vybz Kartel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 £50-60m for De Bruyne... Jesus christ. We got an absolute bargain for Hazard.Hazard and Sanchez look like the bargains of the century when you look at the numbers being thrown around for the likes of Sterling, De Bruyne, Pogba and all these guys. TheOneChan95, bababoom and xPetrCechx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Aguero Sterling Silva De BruyneIt wouldn't be much better than our front 4, quality wise, and would would be inherently poor at tracking back and defending - they'd need better than Fernandinho-Lampard to do that. Matic Cesc would not survive either. They'd need something like Kondogbia - Pogba/Vidal. And for Kompany to remember how to defend.Willian = SterlingDe Bruyne = a less quality HazardAguero = CostaSilva = creator (Cesc) but pushed further up, to make up for the fact that behind them is the most uncreative central midfield ever.It'd be a quality team, but ours is more balanced and our manager is better - we could get a win over them.We have City away second game of the season. It shall be an interesting match.Crooked comparison tbh. That front four easily beats Chelsea's in terms of offensive quality. Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne beats Costa, Oscar and Willian comfortably (Hazard over Sterling). Matic>Fernandinho/Fernando, Cesc=Toure (when both players are in form).But the question is how they would function as a unit. Chelsea's midfield is proven. didierforever and Clockwork 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 £50-60m for De Bruyne... Jesus christ. We got an absolute bargain for Hazard. 2012 was pre Bale/James/Suarez/Neymar/Cavani/Falcao/Di Maria/David Luiz (I smile every time I think about that transfer) transfers. Market has shifted significantly.Mangala cost City more than Hazard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Crooked comparison tbh. That front four easily beats Chelsea's in terms of offensive quality. Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne beats Costa, Oscar and Willian comfortably (Hazard over Sterling). Matic>Fernandinho/Fernando, Cesc=Toure (when both players are in form).But the question is how they would function as a unit. Chelsea's midfield is proven.My point precisely. But my argument is that in the end City will still be liable to being counter attacked - none of that front 4 will want to track back therefore leaving whoever is in central midfield exposed, unless it's Pogba-Kondogbia or something like that. Fernando/old Toure-Fernandinho would get fucking slaughtered. They have better offensive quality but we have the better balance. If we sat back we would struggle. But if we play our counter attacking game they are in danger. Aguero is not much better than Costa personally. It's there but negligible difference. Our overall squad even if they sign all of their players is still stronger. Especially if Zouma gives our CB pairing a little more pace. Their defence now that Kompany forgot how to football and that 36 year old guy they have, Mangala and their poor fullbacks (even Zabaleta would not get into our team ahead of Ivanovic)Obviously, I'm biased as a CFC fan but unless they buy a few defensive players too (so basically ending up spending £500m in a single window) I'm not overly worried. Arsenal's squad worries me more now that they have a WC keeper, if they replace Mertesacker and get a good striker (see: Lacazette; Benzema; Bony)[Especially Bony, he'd give them physicality that they haven't seen for many years) then they're in title contention with us. Luckily Arsene "Specialist in failure" Wenger will probably be thrifty instead. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 My point precisely. But my argument is that in the end City will still be liable to being counter attacked - none of that front 4 will want to track back therefore leaving whoever is in central midfield exposed, unless it's Pogba-Kondogbia or something like that. Fernando/old Toure-Fernandinho would get fucking slaughtered. They have better offensive quality but we have the better balance. If we sat back we would struggle. But if we play our counter attacking game they are in danger. Aguero is not much better than Costa personally. It's there but negligible difference.That's not entirely true. De Bruyne does defend, I don't know why I keep reading that here. Does he defend as capably as Oscar (in his first half of the season form), or run up and down like Willian? No. But that doesn't mean he strolls around when his team doesn't have possession. Just recently in the game against Wales, De Bruyne did plenty of back tracking. Just to use as an example, he averaged 1.2 tackles and 0.7 interceptions per game last season. Oscar (1.9 and 0.5), Willian (1.0 and 0.4). And De Bruyne is usually among the top 3 when it comes to distance covered.Silva is no slouch either. Far from it. Sterling I'm less familiar with in this regard but I'm sure he'd have to defend if he joined City. Even Robben defends so who is Sterling not to do so.Edit: You are right about the functioning of their centre midfield though. It's why I don't understand how Schneiderlin, or a different player of his ilk, was not a priority.Chelsea and City play different football, different systems. Both have achieved succes with their own ways. I always fancy Chelsea to beat City in a game, and even with De Bruyne and Sterling, Chelsea would be favourites to win the league for me. didierforever and CurlyHairLikeLuiz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 That's not entirely true. De Bruyne does defend, I don't know why I keep reading that here. Does he defend as capably as Oscar (in his first half of the season form), or run up and down like Willian? No. But that doesn't mean he strolls around when his team doesn't have possession. Just recently in the game against Wales, De Bruyne did plenty of back tracking. Just to use as an example, he averaged 1.2 tackles and 0.7 interceptions per game last season. Oscar (1.9 and 0.5), Willian (1.0 and 0.4). And De Bruyne is usually among the top 3 when it comes to distance covered.Silva is no slouch either. Far from it. Sterling I'm less familiar with in this regard but I'm sure he'd have to defend if he joined City. Even Robben defends so who is Sterling not to do so.Chelsea and City play different football, different systems. Both have achieved succes with their own ways. I always fancy Chelsea to beat City in a game, and even with De Bruyne and Sterling, Chelsea would be favourites to win the league for me.Sterling wouldn't I think. I read that much of the reason he wants to leave Liverpool is so he doesn't play wingback in Brendan's wacky 3-5-2 formation. Combined, Sterling-Silva-DB is quite a lazy AM 3. But that's okay, as long as they aren't planning to play Fernando-Fernandinho behind them, and they are willing to recover the ball from deep.We do have the strongest side overall, though. With a bit more depth it could be a treble winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 And we are going to get a piece of that!!!! Perfect!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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