ParNolio7 285 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 if not KDB,who out of the other two do you believe should have gone off? First of all, I don't agree that either one of Mata, KDB or Willian needed to be replaced when 0-2 up against Arsenal in the league cup.If you wanted to bring in a fresh pair of lungs, could easily have replaced Essien or Mikel (whose standard of passing wasn't at all great, mind you).But if you really want to replace one of the 3 AM's, KDB would've been last choice for me as he's the only one who really needed the 90 minutes. Maybe Mata also more than Willian. So, could've replaced Willian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 The above headlines make it clear. KDB will eventually play, might just end up as a solid starter after a couple of games. The entire reason why people are having a meltdown ( not just here, but even the Lukaku thread) is only because of the English media and the way they play with words. None of them seem to regret being at the club, none of them want to leave. Its only the propagandist English media that spreads it all. The worst part is, people actually fall for it , word to word , without rational thinking. Eden2020, The Mak and Stingray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Its only the propagandist English media that spreads it all. The worst part is, people actually fall for it , word to word , without rational thinking.Whilst it's very easy to bash the English media when you don't really know how it works and use terms like 'propagandist' in a rather hysterical fashion, there's very rarely smoke without fire to these stories and players' camps are often all too keen to brief reporters on their client's unhappiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 He just played on Tuesday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 31, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted October 31, 2013 But if you really want to replace one of the 3 AM's, KDB would've been last choice for me as he's the only one who really needed the 90 minutes. Maybe Mata also more than Willian. So, could've replaced Willian.We also needed the win.I think that's where some of the confusion comes in. Mourinho makes decisions to benefit Chelsea, not De Bruyne or Belgium. If Mourinho thinks that the way De Bruyne puts out the cones in the morning is worth an extra point to us over the course of the season then I'd quite happily support his decision to keep him and not play him.Personally I think he'll eventually get a chance and become a good player for us, but there's no rush at this point in time when we're winning games and doing well. Barbara, darrus, Fastrobbie and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 You're just paranoid and obsessed. It's sad really. You realise this is a Chelsea forum don't you? You know the team that's won 8 out of the last 9?Oh man, do I really have to repeat what I said to Tomo? You're on the KDB thread here so it's quite logical you will read comments about KDB, how he played, his future, the way he's dealth with etc. That's why this is A KDB THREAD.Again, if you don't want to read about KDB, DON'T COME TO THE KDB THREAD.What's so difficult about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Oh man, do I really have to repeat what I said to Tomo? You're on the KDB thread here so it's quite logical you will read comments about KDB, how he played, his future, the way he's dealth with etc. That's why this is A KDB THREAD.Again, if you don't want to read about KDB, DON'T COME TO THE KDB THREAD.What's so difficult about that? Were it a KDB thread on a KDB Forum I would get your point, but it's not.The bigger picture here is Chelsea FC, you just ignore the way we've won 6 in a row and 8 out of our last 9 whilst stabbing every other player in the back to make your point about Kevin, which is always the only point you ever make on this forum. didierforever and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I cant understand, why do you all seem to care SO MUCH about this guy? i mean more than other player in the squad it looks like the all forum is behind this boy like he's born at the club. What did he do to deserve that kind of support? ChelseasMessiah and darrus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 The bigger picture here is Chelsea FC, you just ignore the way we've won 6 in a row and 8 out of our last 9 whilst stabbing every other player in the back to make your point about Kevin, which is always the only point you ever make on this forum. I once said I dislike David Luiz as a player, but to my knowledge that's the only time I spoke bad about another Chelsea player. If not, please show my quotes where I "stabbed other players in the back". Pathetic, really.I also stated that the fact that being happy with Chelsea's performances doesn't necessarily exclude being unhappy with how a particular player is treated, or with a particular situation. Great results don't make up for everything, just like bad results don't mean everything's bad. Anyone who know the least bit about football, knows that much.Boy, really hate having to repeat myself over and over again... Level of some comments is really sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 What did he do to deserve that kind of support? Just be a phenomenal player is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 i think mourinho will look to offload him and bring in ross barkley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 http://www.chelseafc...contract-agreedUh oh.... Just be a phenomenal player is all Like Oscar and Mata....and Willian and Schurrle...and Hazardand possibly Boga and Traore.Meh didierforever, Barbara and OneMoSalah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Just be a phenomenal player is all Thing is we have a couple of more phenomenal players in his positions. And to be honest he seems to me like the less talented one (with Schurrle, but Schurrle is a different player from the rest so he gets to play). The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Thing is we have a couple of more phenomenal players in his positions. And to be honest he seems to me like the less talented one (with Schurrle, but Schurrle is a different player from the rest so he gets to play). Totally agree with the fact that all Chelsea AM's are absolutely phenomenal. Even Schürrle.To say that Kevin is the least talented one, however, is just silly. Quite obvious that your opinion is solely based on the few minutes you've seen him play for Chelsea.He will stand up and impress you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Totally agree with the fact that all Chelsea AM's are absolutely phenomenal. Even Schürrle.To say that Kevin is the least talented one, however, is just silly. Quite obvious that your opinion is solely based on the few minutes you've seen him play for Chelsea.He will stand up and impress you all.No, im saying that based on games i saw him in Berman and Belgium.Who do you think is less talented than him (except Schürrle)? and why does it so "silly" to think he is the least talented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Who do you think is less talented than him (except Schürrle)? and why does it so "silly" to think he is the least talented? Okay, doesn't matter. They're all great, not much point in argueing who's better or has more potential. Just reading KDB and "least talented" in one sentence is very strange.Just read an interview with KDB in "Het Nieuwsblad" (Belgian newspaper). Some quotes:"The coach told me I played well but that he subbed me for tactical reasons.""I don't think I played bad. The whole team was good and we deserved the victory."When asked about his future: "I'm not worried. I just have to keep quiet. I work real hard during training and feel sharper than ever. Mourinho also told me that I've been training really well for a couple of weeks now. But there's 25 of us who want to play."Bottom line, KDB still not worried, nor thinking about leaving Chelsea. Just keeping calm, working, and hoping for a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 if it had been some1 like kalou who would have had a game like kdb did, then my oh my!!!, hell would have risen on this forum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I don't think it's inconceivable to say that KDB is the least talented between him, Hazard, Mata, Oscar and Willian... Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 De Bruyne has played 4 games this season and has one good half against Hull. (Pre-season is worthless) He's been the worst player on the pitch in pretty much every other performance. It's hard to build momentum when you don't play regularly, but at this level, you have to learn how to make an impact and build your playing time. You can't come on and be useless every game and move up the depth chart. You don't rate Schurrle, but he's been better than De Bruyne in every aspect of the game. His passing is better, his workrate is better, his impact is greater, his defensive work is vastly better, his positioning is better, he fits Mourinho's system better. Who is De Bruyne supposed to start ahead of? He's #6 on our depth chart and that's where he deserves to be until he can play his way out of it. I like his potential, but his obsessed fans drive me crazy with how much they act like he should be handed opportunities just because, opportunities he hasn't earned. Your judgment is far too harsh.Not every talent shines in every game, so the strict approach your using is meaningless, it takes time. No matter what you think we still have the luxury of giving De Bruyne time, their is still a full season to be played.If De Bruyne was playing utter dog shite and I mean Torres style, then I would consider what you said valid, but I don't think he's been anywhere near as bad as you've said. It's took him time to settle sure, but it was the exact same thing with Schurrle. Mufassir08, Stingray and zolayes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Totally agree with the fact that all Chelsea AM's are absolutely phenomenal. Even Schürrle.To say that Kevin is the least talented one, however, is just silly. Quite obvious that your opinion is solely based on the few minutes you've seen him play for Chelsea.He will stand up and impress you all.I'd say he probably is right now the least talented one but thats not a bad thing given that players like Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Schurrle and Willian are in the squad. I used to think De Bruyne was better than Schurrle but looking at the situation and how Schurrle has done he edges it for me. You go on about how we base him on the few minutes he's played for Chelsea, ultimately that is what we are judging the players on, how well they do for Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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