zolayes 14,489 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 been my best bet this .. Wolfs mean money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I swear his passes... The only one who I think curently is better than him at killer passes is messi.He certainly has a supernatural talent for passing the ball. Excellent in many qualities, but his passing stands out above the rest of his qualities. Not many players in the history of football can give passes like he does. And some of them don't work, because he always tries the most dangerous passes, but he has to keep that risk in his game. Opponents are afraid of the coming pass when he has the ball. His 75% passing is a lot better than the passing of all the 90-95% players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 He should go to Liverpool imo...Don't think he would start on either City nor United. Liverpool has a vacant spot waiting for him already.. However, I think Liverpool are going to regressed next year again with everyone else improving.He reminds of the Vertoghen situation years ago, when barcelona and a lot of other team were targeted him as their 4th option, which KDB essentially is for those clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 He certainly has a supernatural talent for passing the ball. Excellent in many qualities, but his passing stands out above the rest of his qualities. Not many players in the history of football can give passes like he does. And some of them don't work, because he always tries the most dangerous passes, but he has to keep that risk in his game. Opponents are afraid of the coming pass when he has the ball. His 75% passing is a lot better than the passing of all the 90-95% players.when I first saw him it was his crossing and delivery of a set piece ,, Beckham standard on those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 when I first saw him it was his crossing and delivery of a set piece ,, Beckham standard on thoseAnd he is half english (his mother) so i would welcome him back in the PL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 This is possibly the worst transfer in Chelsea history regarding a player we sold. I thought Robben one was bad but at least he was injury prone as fuck back then, but this guy was told to fuck off because he doesn't track back enough and apparently not motivated/suit Jose's ego enough.At least we can comfort ourselves with David Luiz zolayes and The Mak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamad138 190 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 He also had problems with mou. According to wolfsburg ,sometimes he goes 1v1 with the coach if he dont agree with the coach.Now think what mou would do in a 1v1 Situation with him, lol Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 He should go to Liverpool imo...Don't think he would start on either City nor United. Liverpool has a vacant spot waiting for him already.. However, I think Liverpool are going to regressed next year again with everyone else improving.He reminds of the Vertoghen situation years ago, when barcelona and a lot of other team were targeted him as their 4th option, which KDB essentially is for those clubs. Yeah, the 4th option for €80M. German analysts call him the big favourite for Bundesliga Player of the Year. Nice 4th option/bench player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Yeah, the 4th option for €80M. German analysts call him the big favourite for Bundesliga Player of the Year. Nice 4th option/bench player.HAHA... No one has him for 80m, its only you that keeps coming up with random numbers and random teams....Vertoghen was essentially the 4th rated one for Barca. 1a. Silva1b. Marquinhos3. David Luizthan was Vertoghen by default. Look at Vermaleen. Barcelona bought him due to default and he hasn't played a game at Barcelona yet, even though he captained Arsenal and even lost his spot to the slowest player in the world. At City, United and Bayern, they already have options ahead of KDB.Pogba. Gundogan. Bale. Reus. Sterling. Etc. KDB is essentially what Vertoghen was before, an option for these teams if everything else fails. Liverpool is a better destination due to the void left by Steven Gerrard and the lack of defensive play that Rodger implements. He can do what he is doing for Wolfsburg there, while in the other 3 teams he would have to exert himself both ways... All three teams are essentially managed by guys that want to press like dogs. LVG, Pep and to some degree Pelligrini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 He also had problems with mou. According to wolfsburg ,sometimes he goes 1v1 with the coach if he dont agree with the coach.Now think what mou would do in a 1v1 Situation with him, lolWhy not TALK to the player and educate him .. instead of getting rid ...or does Jose prefer yes men The Mak and MrBlueGuy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 HAHA... No one has him for 80m, its only you that keeps coming up with random numbers and random teams....Vertoghen was essentially the 4th rated one for Barca. 1a. Silva1b. Marquinhos3. David Luizthan was Vertoghen by default. Look at Vermaleen. Barcelona bought him due to default and he hasn't played a game at Barcelona yet, even though he captained Arsenal and even lost his spot to the slowest player in the world. At City, United and Bayern, they already have options ahead of KDB.Pogba. Gundogan. Bale. Reus. Sterling. Etc. KDB is essentially what Vertoghen was before, an option for these teams if everything else fails. Liverpool is a better destination due to the void left by Steven Gerrard and the lack of defensive play that Rodger implements. He can do what he is doing for Wolfsburg there, while in the other 3 teams he would have to exert himself both ways... All three teams are essentially managed by guys that want to press like dogs. LVG, Pep and to some degree Pelligrini. It's the media that is coming with these amounts and teams. And Wolfsburg already said they would laugh with €50M, so he won't be a cheap bench player for those teams. It also doesn't make any sense to get the favourite for Bundesliga Player Of The Year (according to German journalists, I didn't say it) for the bench. It's like Real Madrid that buys Hazard for their bench. But believe what you want to believe. Yeah, he sucks and he will leave Wolfburg for the Man City bench for €15M. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 It's the media that is coming with these amounts and teams. And Wolfsburg already said they would laugh with €50M, so he won't be a cheap bench player for those teams. It also doesn't make any sense to get the favourite for Bundesliga Player Of The Year (according to German journalists, I didn't say it) for the bench. It's like Real Madrid that buys Hazard for their bench. But believe what you want to believe. Yeah, he sucks and he will leave Wolfburg for the Man City bench for €15M.Wolfburg won't sell at 50m, but that doesn't mean that these teams will buy him at 80m. If your going to spend that much money, you might as well go all out for Pogba, Verrati, Koke, or whoever. United already have Herrara, mata, rooney and di maria who are all very good longball passers and deadball specialists. What would KDB add to United and how would he fit with United and LVG? AND LVG doesn't play 2 of 4 of them at the same time. Munich wouldn't spend that money on KDB when they wouldn't spend the money to buy Neymar.City need a phsycial cm to replace yaya toure, not someone like KDB. IMO, Nasri is still a better player than KDB as is Silva. Next season, I'm not sure if City is going to revert back to the 2 striker formation, however, unless you think City going to run through KDB, rather than Silva, I don't see why he would go to City. Liverpool need a long ball passer, set piece specialist to replace Gerrard. KDB would fit in perfectly with the space left by Gerrard and he would have more freedom to do play his game, moreso than the other three squads. Jose Mourinho is a very conservative and defensive minded manager, however, LVG is as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 the fuck am i reading Viper22, Sovieticus and iseah100 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Liverpool need a long ball passer, set piece specialist to replace Gerrard. KDB would fit in perfectly with the space left by Gerrard and he would have more freedom to do play his game, moreso than the other three squads. Jose Mourinho is a very conservative and defensive minded manager, however, LVG is as well. Why are you bringing Liverpool ? They're outside of Champions League and don't have resources to buy him. From KDB perspective it's way worse than what he has at Wolfsburg when next season they want seriously challenge Bayern. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Why are you bringing Liverpool ? They're outside of Champions League and don't have resources to buy him. From KDB perspective it's way worse than what he has at Wolfsburg when next season they want seriously challenge Bayern.Liverpool have tons of money. They also have a lot of players they can sell and a lot of wages being dropped this summer...I always thought KDB didn't want to be in Germany and would rather be in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Liverpool have tons of money. They also have a lot of players they can sell and a lot of wages being dropped this summer...I always thought KDB didn't want to be in Germany and would rather be in England. They were barely passed through FFP for last season reports. I very much doubt that they can spend without Champions League money with big spending last summer. Just look with what players they are linked now. Pirlo (for free), Ings (for free), Konoplyanka (for free) !!KDB is one of the hottest products on the market. Liverpool chances are ZERO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Why not TALK to the player and educate him .. instead of getting rid ...or does Jose prefer yes menCausing drama/having an attitude is one thing. However, there are some players who cause drama/have a bit of an attitude but they're world class and you put up with it because of that exact reason.I severely doubt though that KDB had a major ego or attitude, just maybe questioned things a little. A lot here did the same, including myself, when Mata was dropped for Oscar.José is a manager who had Ibrahimovic for feck sake, the most egotistical player on the planet, and he has always said he would go out and kill for him if José asked; KDB was a bit difficult? I don't buy it now if I'm honest. Could he not motivate him? Did he bother? Did he not think he could be as good as this? That Oscar could be better? Whatever he thought, it is clear now that José was very wrong regarding KDB. MrBlueGuy, zolayes and MCM4PR3Z 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 honestly i wish kiwi's had less calories iseah100 and Sovieticus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Perhaps it was just José being dogmatic again and deciding from the start that he just wasn't a 'Mourinho player', like he did with Mata. Can't believe we got rid of him in favour of Oscar, who repaid our faith directly afterwards by saving himself for the WC. Now, KDB is just on the brink of becoming world class if he continues this trajectory; I severely doubt Oscar ever will be up there.We've generally done good business in the past few windows, but there are some mares in there. Namely letting KDB go without a proper chance and buying Cuadrado for some stupid f**king reason. What an absolute waste. Everyone makes mistakes... (although it was a really stupid one!!!). But if we wouldn't have negotiated a buy-back clause.... NOW THAT would be unbelievably stupid and naive from our board!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 He is one mutant kid Despiadado.Maleante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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