Gary Cahill

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Except he is and he's shown he is with England aswell as Bolton. There's a reason teams offered for him and why we're desperate to sign him up quickly. He's kept clean sheet on a consistent basis with our captain in CB for England and apart from a freak game against Montenegro they've been very solid and effective together.

Like I read somewhere else.. England would finish like 10th if they were a team in the Premier League. He's not a bad player.. he's 'good'. Wenger had it right when he valued him at £6million at a time where Bolton claimed £15-20million would do it. Fucking LOL.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

That's a decent fee. I'm prepared to wait before I judge him at Chelsea.

Fair enough mate!

[Ashblues 30]

http://www.dailymail...illas-Boas.html

Looks like the deal is almost done. So, it's better if we stop being pessimistic with Gary Cahill ,and rather support him.

Cahill is a player who has years of experience when it comes to playing in 'tough' EPL. He is strong, tall, can read the game well. Moreover, being an English will help us following those quota rules. With 7 million it is a good deal.

[Tomo 21,751]

Hum... I am bothered with the price... £7m, for an average player coming from a club which is at the bottom of the table, and at the top of that, he has barely 6 months left on his contract... I find him overpriced. It should have been £5m at maximum.

Hence I hope he won't earn too much.

Think it's a bit unfair to judge a player solely on his teams league position.

In Rooney's last season at Everton, Everton finished 17th, didn't mean United made a mistake buying Wayne tho.

[Melanicus 5,208]

You have two types of central backs, stoppers and sweepers. Stoppers are Puyol, Terry, Pepe, Vidić and Silva. Sweepers are Pique, Luiz, Carvalho, Jones and Nesta.

As far as I'm concerned Cahill is sweeper and he's really good for high-line. He passes a lot and you can often see him in the oposition half or even in front of goal.

We can play Ivanović/Luiz/Cahill and Terry in defence. I'm worried about our stoppers, we only have JT.

[Hd123 5]

You have two types of central backs, stoppers and sweepers. Stoppers are Puyol, Terry, Pepe, Vidić and Silva. Sweepers are Pique, Luiz, Carvalho, Jones and Nesta.

As far as I'm concerned Cahill is sweeper and he's really good for high-line. He passes a lot and you can often see him in the oposition half or even in front of goal.

We can play Ivanović/Luiz/Cahill and Terry in defence. I'm worried about our stoppers, we only have JT.

Samba in, Bosingwa out.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I think he is "good" but nothing more. Meaning he will never be classified among the JTs and Vidics and Kompanys and the sort. But then again very few are. That does not take away that he is a very good and fairly consistent defender.

Now, seeing as he only has 6months left on his contract, 5-7m seem about right for him. If it weren't, then why would Bolton accept? Coyle is not stupid.

[Hd123 5]

I think he is "good" but nothing more. Meaning he will never be classified among the JTs and Vidics and Kompanys and the sort. But then again very few are. That does not take away that he is a very good and fairly consistent defender.

Now, seeing as he only has 6months left on his contract, 5-7m seem about right for him. If it weren't, then why would Bolton accept? Coyle is not stupid.

at one point (in fact it was until a year ago) nobody dared to mention Kompany in the list of those names. Just saying.

[HNKS 508]

at one point (in fact it was until a year ago) nobody dared to mention Kompany in the list of those names. Just saying.

Excellent point. I for one will wait to see him play with a better team than that of Bolton. He has done immensely well for England.

[Ashblues 30]

at one point (in fact it was until a year ago) nobody dared to mention Kompany in the list of those names. Just saying.

Yup! Very good point. He was even labeled as bad defender after the community shield match against United (where he made a terrible last minute error). He did not play well against us as well at the Stamford bridge.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

at one point (in fact it was until a year ago) nobody dared to mention Kompany in the list of those names. Just saying.

That's because a couple of years ago, Kompany was 23 years old and still in development. He still hadn't reached that list yet.

I would be very happy if Gary proves me wrong.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

You have two types of central backs, stoppers and sweepers. Stoppers are Puyol, Terry, Pepe, Vidić and Silva. Sweepers are Pique, Luiz, Carvalho, Jones and Nesta.

As far as I'm concerned Cahill is sweeper and he's really good for high-line. He passes a lot and you can often see him in the oposition half or even in front of goal.

We can play Ivanović/Luiz/Cahill and Terry in defence. I'm worried about our stoppers, we only have JT.

Spot on.

When I think of this defenders theory I always go back to the Manchester United model. Vidic & Ferdinand (in the latter's prime) were an exceptional example of this. Vidic will the be the first defender who will attack the ball, he'll be up there for the first header, coming in with the hard tackles etc. Rio will collect the second ball, he won't necessarily play it out, but he will do the last-man job.

You could argue Ivanovic is a stopper, because his ball skills aren't really good and because of his superior strength he's good at the one-on-ones. However even then, I don't trust Ivanovic at centre-back as of late. There's is a general decline of stoppers around right now, because of the way the game's evolved in the last 10years. Chalobah is also a sweeper, as is Bruma.

Cahill, as a sweeper, isn't "world-class", he's decent back-up though.

Edited December 24, 2011 by RZA