Frank Lampard

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Lampard is almost identical to Van Persie. Both liars. One of their club's best players as well. But at least Van Persie wasn't a coward.

I would even put ZOLA in front of Lampard.

There are other heroes from previous generations, of course, but of the Abramovich era onwards, I firmly believe Terry, Drogba and Cech will firmly hold a monopoly on the 1, 2, 3 positions unless Hazard stays here for ten years.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Do you have inside info then about that pre-contract? It's not even important, because it was him who said yes to ManCity. It was him who agreed to play for our biggest rivals of this season, to beat us. You pretend like NY City put a sneaky clause into the contract to play for Mancity, no he decided to play for Mancity.

This guy has an IQ of 140, do you really think he didn't know what he was doing?

He knew what he was doing, he said he signed with New york City and then the chance came to train and play with Mancity. But when Premier league were researching the third party ownership thing, it was published that he signed with Mancity, from the beginning!

He also EXTENDED his stay at City, why? To gain fitness for the MLS season, nonsense.

He wanted to win the EPL with City so badly, to beat US Chelsea to the title.

He won City around 7 points on his own, 3 gained by that goal against us.

So let me ask you, if we finished second behind City with 1-2 points. What would you think of Lampard?

What would happen if we didn't win the EPL this season? He knew it, Jose probably sacked and Chelsea had to start all over again. But nothing is more important than his own ego.

Just because we were too strong doesn't mean he wasn't wrong. For me it's the same.

In Dutch we say "trust comes by foot and leaves on a horse". That's saying building trust you need time, but to lose it you just need one action, and this was his action.

He lied against us, set up a show in New york for the Newyork fans for marketing reasons. He tried to keep his face and reputation, a real man is at least honest and say "hey I want to play one more year in England, so I go to City."

A real man would not pretend it was a suprise to play for Mancity while he signed with them from the beginning!

He's a smart guy, using the media, saying indirectly Chelsea were wrong to let him go. Putting the blame on Chelsea, while it's him being the liar.

His records and trophies are in the books, but he damaged his legacy. There would be 0,0 discussions about his legendary status if he didn't move to City.

The case with Cech is different, he is still a top 5 GK in the world in his prime. He sat on the bench for a year to help us to win trophies, while he had 2 windows to leave.

What a load of over the top drama queen hissy fit statements.

So, now it doesnt matter that you agree he had a pre agreement with the NYC franchise. We have to believe that because thats what we have been told unless its you and the other drama queens are the ones with inside information or were actually in New York witnessing all the talks that went on.

Personally, once a player has left our club ( in this case he was told after the last home game v Norwich by Jose that the club were not renewing his contract and letting him go), as a supporter I wish them all the best.

So what if he ended up playing for another PL team......he was a free agent and we had no rights to determine what he did.

Cannot understand why so called proper football supporters get their nappies all wet when a player moves from one club to another....rivals or not. Happens all the time....especially in other big European leagues.

If Lampard had fired City to the title with loads of brilliant performances and goals....then who are the mugs? I would say the Chelsea board, not him, or us as we have to go on what they believe is right and in this case over the course of the season, they have been proven right

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Lampard is a former Chelsea Player and will be remembered as a City Player. I don't want him anywhere near the Bridge, wouldn't bother me if he is hit by a car or something. Screw him.

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What a load of over the top drama queen hissy fit statements.

So, now it doesnt matter that you agree he had a pre agreement with the NYC franchise. We have to believe that because thats what we have been told unless its you and the other drama queens are the ones with inside information or were actually in New York witnessing all the talks that went on.

Personally, once a player has left our club ( in this case he was told after the last home game v Norwich by Jose that the club were not renewing his contract and letting him go), as a supporter I wish them all the best.

So what if he ended up playing for another PL team......he was a free agent and we had no rights to determine what he did.

Cannot understand why so called proper football supporters get their nappies all wet when a player moves from one club to another....rivals or not. Happens all the time....especially in other big European leagues.

If Lampard had fired City to the title with loads of brilliant performances and goals....then who are the mugs? I would say the Chelsea board, not him, or us as we have to go on what they believe is right and in this case over the course of the season, they have been proven right

It does not matter cause he played a full season here in England. Pre-agreement for what then? 2016 or the last games of 2015?

The moment when you need to show loyalty is when you are a free man without obligations. Chelsea gave him so much, he knew he carried the club's image on him. He knew CFC supporters absolutely adored him and saw him as a legend. But he decided to do this, damaging the club, yes now some people will call him a EPL legend instead of CFC legend and hurting the supporters.

Jose also said "love stories ended when he decided to play for City"

Football is nothing without the supporters, they travel to matches spending thousand of dollars a year. Fans abroad stay up late or wake up early to watch Chelsea. Why? Because of the emotions and passion for the club, football without these emotions could be quite boring. And that's why people are so affected by moves like this one of Lampard.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Lampard is a former Chelsea Player and will be remembered as a City Player. I don't want him anywhere near the Bridge, wouldn't bother me if he is hit by a car or something. Screw him.

What a nasty vindictive thing to say.

Fortunately, the majority of the thousands that go to the Bridge will disagree with you as proven when they were singing his name during the last match v Sunderland and afterwards when Drogba was speaking about him to the support

[Rhino's Skin 972]

It does not matter cause he played a full season here in England. Pre-agreement for what then? 2016 or the last games of 2015?

The moment when you need to show loyalty is when you are a free man without obligations. Chelsea gave him so much, he knew he carried the club's image on him. He knew CFC supporters absolutely adored him and saw him as a legend. But he decided to do this, damaging the club, yes now some people will call him a EPL legend instead of CFC legend and hurting the supporters.

Jose also said "love stories ended when he decided to play for City"

Football is nothing without the supporters, they travel to matches spending thousand of dollars a year. Fans abroad stay up late or wake up early to watch Chelsea. Why? Because of the emotions and passion for the club, football without these emotions could be quite boring. And that's why people are so affected by moves like this one of Lampard.

So what....... he was free to do what the hell he wanted. No ifs and buts......just free as the club had let him go.

Most supporters are chilled about it but its the minority who seem to have got their knickers in a twist about the whole charade and shouting the loudest making more of the charade than what it actually was.

And that was no contract here, he left, free to play anywhere or do what the hell he wants. Thats it..no more...no less...simple.

Happens all the time when players...even legends leave.

The minority just need to chill.......will they boo and jeer if he appears at the Bridge doing commentary or halftime walk round?

Will they fark

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Just wondering what proof you have that he was a liar?

Even his recent tv interview explained a little of what went on.

If the club do not want a player then as an ex employee any player should be free to ply their trade wherever they want and go with best wishes from all at the club and the support.

Are you kidding?

Here is Frank Lampard's first press conference as "a New York player" blatantly lying about signing with them when he still to this day has not done so, and innocently pretending that he does not know where he will train to keep fitness when he had already signed a deal to join and play with City. He lied even more saying that he can't wait to start playing for New York on the start of their season when he knew fully well and was working towards extending his contract with City well beyond that point.

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So what....... he was free to do what the hell he wanted. No ifs and buts......just free as the club had let him go.

Most supporters are chilled about it but its the minority who seem to have got their knickers in a twist about the whole charade and shouting the loudest making more of the charade than what it actually was.

And that was no contract here, he left, free to play anywhere or do what the hell he wants. Thats it..no more...no less...simple.

Happens all the time when players...even legends leave.

The minority just need to chill.......will they boo and jeer if he appears at the Bridge doing commentary or halftime walk round?

Will they fark

I really wonder what supporters will think when Totti leaves Roma as a free agent, then plays for Lazio on loan.

Or Gerrard going on loan to Everton/United to gain fitness.

Or if Raul joined Barcelona to gain fitness.

Legends supposed to represent the club, even if they are released. You have some moral responsibilities like not joining the direct rivals.

If you don't think so, we should finish this discussion here.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Are you kidding?

Here is Frank Lampard's first press conference as "a New York player" blatantly lying about signing with them when he still to this day has not done so, and innocently pretending that he does not know where he will train to keep fitness when he had already signed a deal to join and play with City. He lied even more saying that he can't wait to start playing for New York on the start of their season when he knew fully well and was working towards extending his contract with City well beyond that point.

He signed a pre agreement.....nothing wrong with that.

You have absolutely no proof whatsoever that in his mind he knew he was going to Man City before he signed his agreement with NYC.

After the newspaer statements and sky interviews there hasnt been a report by any journo's saying he was lying and you would have thought especially after last sky documentry they would have picked him up on it if that were the case.

But at the end of the day...SO FARKING WHAT.

He had every right to do what he wanted and the majority of the support still SUPPORT him

[Rhino's Skin 972]

I really wonder what supporters will think when Totti leaves Roma as a free agent, then plays for Lazio on loan.

Or Gerrard going on loan to Everton/United to gain fitness.

Or if Raul joined Barcelona to gain fitness.

Legends supposed to represent the club, even if they are released. You have some moral responsibilities like not joining the direct rivals.

If you don't think so, we should finish this discussion here.

Figo barca/real

lewendowski bayern/dortmund

Tevez city/utd

Etc etc etc

Its not as if Lampard forced a move away from Chelsea just so he could sign for Man City.

It happens....get real and live with it.

If support at the away games and the bridge is anything to go by then Lampard is still adored, supported and would be made welcome back any time by them

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Figo barca/real

lewendowski bayern/dortmund

Tevez city/utd

Etc etc etc

Its not as if Lampard forced a move away from Chelsea just so he could sign for Man City.

It happens....get real and live with it.

If support at the away games and the bridge is anything to go by then Lampard is still adored, supported and would be made welcome back any time by them

Are you really comparing 3 years of Lewa at Dortmund and Tevez's short spell at United with Raul, Totti and Gerrard here?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He signed a pre agreement.....nothing wrong with that.

You have absolutely no proof whatsoever that in his mind he knew he was going to Man City before he signed his agreement with NYC.

After the newspaer statements and sky interviews there hasnt been a report by any journo's saying he was lying and you would have thought especially after last sky documentry they would have picked him up on it if that were the case.

But at the end of the day...SO FARKING WHAT.

He had every right to do what he wanted and the majority of the support still SUPPORT him

He signed the supposed pre-contract in the middle of January way after this press conference and more importantly after his lies exposed by the media and then the EPL.

At the time of that PC I posted above he was lying out of his mind about signing for New York when he has done no such thing, add to that that both he and City explicitly said later that he was "on loan" to them which was clearly not the case.

He obviously already knew that he'd sign a full contract with City or he would not have lied so blatantly about signing with NewYork when he had not done so.

There are PLENTY of articles in the media about how he lied like this in the Guardian. You may choose to stick your head in the sand but it is VERY evident that he lied..a lot!

[BlueLion. 21,491]

He signed a pre agreement.....nothing wrong with that.

You have absolutely no proof whatsoever that in his mind he knew he was going to Man City before he signed his agreement with NYC.

After the newspaer statements and sky interviews there hasnt been a report by any journo's saying he was lying and you would have thought especially after last sky documentry they would have picked him up on it if that were the case.

But at the end of the day...SO FARKING WHAT.

He had every right to do what he wanted and the majority of the support still SUPPORT him

Absolutely, he had every right. He could have signed for Spurs if he wanted to. But you're totally missing the point here. Some fans are mad because he went to City. Some fans are mad because he was so back-handed about it, and lied through his teeth. That diminishes his reputation in my eyes, and tarnishes his image. If he'd have been up front and said he wanted to join City because they were offering him what he wanted, then he'd have gone with good grace, in my opinion. We wouldn't have liked it, but we'd have accepted it. Instead he came up with some bullshit story where he fabricated some tale about going on an adventure to New York City, but that he'd join City on loan for a few months to gain fitness. Okay, I can deal with that. But then that "loan deal" was extended to Christmas; then it was extended to the end of the season. The reality is that "loan" was never a loan - it was a short contract agreement between Lampard and City:

Subsequently, however, that has proved not to be the case with City now revealing that Lampard never became a NYCFC player last summer and actually signed a short-term contract at the Premier League club instead. Subsequently, there was no need for a loan".

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2903456/Manchester-City-admit-New-York-City-mistakes-Frank-Lampard.html

He lied to NYCFC fans, and he lied to Chelsea fans, so it wouldn't tarnish his image. But the truth came out, in the end, didn't it? There was never a loan. He signed for City and lied about it. There are too many corroborating news reports for it to be otherwise (just do a Google search - the BBC, The Guardian, The Telegraph, The Independent - all the reputable British sources - all say the same thing). Frank will continue to lie through his teeth and say he intended to go to NYC, but the Premier League and Manchester City both came out and acknowledged there was no loan deal and they fabricated a story about a loan from NYCFC. That hurts. No contract with NYCFC was signed until mid-January this year.

He is still loved, but you're kidding yourself if you think every Chelsea fan loves him as much as they used to. Go back to the victory parade last weekend - I heard some people (not very many, admittedly) very clearly started chanting "Judas, Judas Frank" on the Fulham Rd. back to the train station... tongue in cheek you would hope.

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Can scarcely believe this needs to be set out in black and white yet again, lol. Good ol' Frankie made some puppy eyes and offered us some platitudes so these internet warriors need to chill the fuck out.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

He signed the supposed pre-contract in the middle of January way after this press conference and more importantly after his lies exposed by the media and then the EPL.

At the time of that PC I posted above he was lying out of his mind about signing for New York when he has done no such thing, add to that that both he and City explicitly said later that he was "on loan" to them which was clearly not the case.

He obviously already knew that he'd sign a full contract with City or he would not have lied so blatantly about signing with NewYork when he had not done so.

There are PLENTY of articles in the media about how he lied like this in the Guardian. You may choose to stick your head in the sand but it is VERY evident that he lied..a lot!

He signed pre agreement in June/july ....he didnt lie.

But as I have said...all you doubters need to get real and realise its a case of SO WHAT.

You lot are in the minority and the majority of the support will always welcome him back wether it be just as half time walk around or whatever

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He signed pre agreement in June/july ....he didnt lie.

But as I have said...all you doubters need to get real and realise its a case of SO WHAT.

You lot are in the minority and the majority of the support will always welcome him back wether it be just as half time walk around or whatever

I just provided several links in papers that he did not. Alex provided even more. It's not even debatable, it's a clear fact. You are so deep in denial here, it's unreal.

The second part is besides the point, you said there is no proof that he lied when in fact there are tons of proof. I'm debating that and that alone.

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Absolutely, he had every right. He could have signed for Spurs if he wanted to. But you're totally missing the point here. Some fans are mad because he went to City. Some fans are mad because he was so back-handed about it, and lied through his teeth. That diminishes his reputation in my eyes, and tarnishes his image. If he'd have been up front and said he wanted to join City because they were offering him what he wanted, then he'd have gone with good grace, in my opinion. We wouldn't have liked it, but we'd have accepted it. Instead he came up with some bullshit story where he fabricated some tale about going on an adventure to New York City, but that he'd join City on loan for a few months to gain fitness. Okay, I can deal with that. But then that "loan deal" was extended to Christmas; then it was extended to the end of the season. The reality is that "loan" was never a loan - it was a short contract agreement between Lampard and City:

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2903456/Manchester-City-admit-New-York-City-mistakes-Frank-Lampard.html

He lied to NYCFC fans, and he lied to Chelsea fans, so it wouldn't tarnish his image. But the truth came out, in the end, didn't it? There was never a loan. He signed for City and lied about it. There are too many corroborating news reports for it to be otherwise (just do a Google search - the BBC, The Guardian, The Telegraph, The Independent - all the reputable British sources - all say the same thing). Frank will continue to lie through his teeth and say he intended to go to NYC, but the Premier League and Manchester City both came out and acknowledged there was no loan deal and they fabricated a story about a loan from NYCFC. That hurts. No contract with NYCFC was signed until mid-January this year.

He is still loved, but you're kidding yourself if you think every Chelsea fan loves him as much as they used to. Go back to the victory parade last weekend - I heard some people (not very many, admittedly) very clearly started chanting "Judas, Judas Frank" on the Fulham Rd. back to the train station... tongue in cheek you would hope.

think it was the Oliver Kay interview in the times?..that spelled it out. He has never said it was a loan....it was City who said that and then backtracked.

As for singing....minority, Never said all...have always said majority

[Rhino's Skin 972]

FROM THE TIMES AND SKY.

confirming he had a pre agreement.

Of course the rest is a mess...never disputed that but he DID sign a pre contract agreement .

It was the 2 clubs City and NYC who got it all wrong with their statements which went against what Lampard was saying so the PL looked into it

The recent transfer saga about when midfielder Frank Lampard will feature for Major League Soccer franchise New York City has been “a farce of epic proportions”, according to The Times’ James Ducker.

Newly-formed MLS outfit New York City stated last July that Lampard had signed for them on a two-year contract following his departure from Chelsea.

Manchester City, who are New York City’s parent club, then announced the 36-year-old would be joining them on a six-month "loan" deal ahead of the 2015 MLS season, with Lampard then due to team up with his new side in January.

That was until it was revealed in December that Lampard, as a free agent, had actually agreed a short-term contract with the Premier League champions rather than being loaned to City.

But when it was then confirmed the former England international would be staying at the Etihad Stadium until the end of the season, rather than teaming up with New York for the start of the MLS season, there was outrage across the Atlantic.

And Ducker says City’s reputation in the United States has now taken a battering as a result of this whole affair.

“It is a mess,” The Times’ Northern Football Correspondent told the Sunday Supplement.

”The nuts and bolts of it are that in July last year New York City, who are owned by Manchester City - they are their sister club and are going to start in the MLS in March - announced that Lampard had signed for them on a two-year deal that would take effect from August 1.

'Completely above board'

Frank Lampard has been in fine form for Manchester City

“City then announced just under a fortnight later that Lampard was joining them on loan and that was completely above board. He had signed for one club and then was loaned to another.

“It was formally announced on both the New York and the City websites, but it then turned out that Lampard had not actually signed for New York and it had not been a loan to City, but in actual fact a pre-contract agreement with New York. He had signed a short-term contract with City, which ran through to June 30, with a break clause dated December 31.

“And City, obviously, given what good form Lampard has been in, wanted to extend that contract, so in effect the break clause was removed, he stayed until the end of the season and that sparked outrage in New York.

“And they basically accused City’s ownership of duping them, or pulling the wool over their eyes and they felt badly let down, which you can obviously understand.

Confusion

“In recent days there has been all sorts of confusion, with City claiming that he had only signed a short-term contract until December 31. The Premier League then confirmed that he had signed until June 30, and that their rules clearly state that you can only sign a season-long contract. And that is why the break clause of December 31 was in there, because his contract with New York was initially due to start on January 1, but that is now going to be July.

“The whole thing has been a mess and a farce of epic proportions. Why those mistakes were made in the first place is beyond me, but they have had a long time to address those and this matter should never have got to the situation it is now in.

“And City’s reputation overseas has certainly been damaged. The American press has nailed them, with the New York Post calling the signing of Lampard a ‘fraud’. So there is a big, big effort required now to restore their reputation over there and their director of football Claudio Reyna has been meeting with supporters, but there is a big way to go.”