Spike 12,049 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Hes a pretty good player, but I view him as a poor mans ganso. Same build, same style, just not quite as good.But is he as injury prone as Ganso? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incometax 116 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 But is he as injury prone as Ganso?Nope, his knees aren't as bad as ganso's, hes a touch faster to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonPride1905 236 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I got a friend that is a fan of Inter and he says that Ilicic is a very good player. He may have the class to be part of the Blues, if we bag him for 15 max 20 mil, I don't see why not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 20 millions? seriously? To put in perspective: We paid 23mil for Mata a player who has the assets to be one of the best in the world, 12mil for Meireles a proven midfielder.....Heck, Villa paid 1 million for shay given who is easily one of the best 3 or 4 goal keepers in the PL.Have we really gotten to a stage where no body values 20 million pounds any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 20 millions? seriously? To put in perspective: We paid 23mil for Mata a player who has the assets to be one of the best in the world, 12mil for Meireles a proven midfielder.....Heck, Villa paid 1 million for shay given who is easily one of the best 3 or 4 goal keepers in the PL.Have we really gotten to a stage where no body values 20 million pounds any more?We paid 50M for Torres, 30M for Sheva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 We paid 50M for Torres, 30M for Sheva.And as big flops as they were, they were considered amongst the best strikers in the world when we payed for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 We paid 50M for Torres, 30M for Sheva.And considering how both signings turned out, doesn't that say something about over-paying for players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Have we really gotten to a stage where no body values 20 million pounds any more?In a nutshell... Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 In a nutshell... Yes. lol, Wenger would probably die if he paid 20 million pounds for a player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,477 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 He was nothing short of amazing last season. This season he hasn't quite lived up to the hype around him, replacing Pastore is no easy task but he has lately been starting to look really good again. Also knowing Zamparini the buy out clause is something crazy like 60 mil.20 millions? seriously? To put in perspective: We paid 23mil for Mata a player who has the assets to be one of the best in the world, 12mil for Meireles a proven midfielder.....Heck, Villa paid 1 million for shay given who is easily one of the best 3 or 4 goal keepers in the PL.Have we really gotten to a stage where no body values 20 million pounds any more?Meireles not only handed in a transfer request but is also 28, Josip is only 23 so there's a much better chance of selling him again in the future. Given was obviously also a special case as he was not needed at City and lets not forget he is 35, yeah keepers plays a lot longer but that is still a big age for a keeper. Do you btw have a source for the one million for Given? Everything I have seen it has been between 3 and 4 mil.Mata was however a great fucking piece of business. But it's usually just silly to compare transfer fees, there's so many factors playing in and in the case of Josip I doubt Zamparini will let him go for anything under 20 mil, he sees him as the new great hope of Palermo and as the player to fill the role that Pastore left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 And considering how both signings turned out, doesn't that say something about over-paying for players?What are you talking about? I only meant that we are ALREADY at a stage where we don't value 20M anymore (seeing how much we spent on the two strikers). That said, I don't think we'll regret too much if we pay 20M for Ilicic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 From what I've seen the buyout clause for Ilicic ranges from £21.5m-£25m. Personally, I think it sounds like a bit much. However, I'm basing my opinion a bunch youtube clips and a handful of Palermo matches in which I've seen him appear. One thing I am sure of though, he certainly has the size for the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Do you btw have a source for the one million for Given? Everything I have seen it has been between 3 and 4 mil.Actually the fee was undisclosed, but I remember that it was first rumored to be around 1.5 millions.But it's usually just silly to compare transfer fees, there's so many factors playing in and in the case of Josip I doubt Zamparini will let him go for anything under 20 mil, he sees him as the new great hope of Palermo and as the player to fill the role that Pastore left.Well of course he has the right to ask for any price he wants, as I have the right to believe that he is not worth 20 million pounds. Surely we can find a player just as good but with a lower price tag, don't you think?What are you talking about? I only meant that we are ALREADY at a stage where we don't value 20M anymore (seeing how much we spent on the two strikers). That said, I don't think we'll regret too much if we pay 20M for Ilicic.And I meant that we ought not to be at stage where we do not value 20M because when you do not care about how much money you are giving players, they tend to not care about how much effort they give in return.That said, I think we are much less likely to regret paying 8 or 10 millions for a different player who is just as good ilicic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,477 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Well of course he has the right to ask for any price he wants, as I have the right to believe that he is not worth 20 million pounds. Surely we can find a player just as good but with a lower price tag, don't you think?I don't really see anyone with a lower price tag right now of same quality. Of course a lot can change like a player handing in a transfer request or a club wanting to get rid of a player but right now I don't see any really great attacking midfielders under 20 mil to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incometax 116 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 MM that video makes me think twice; him playing at full potential. I wonder if our interest will re spark and possible put a bid in january. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 No, we must not deal with Palermo because they will charge 25m extra for their sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Hope he joins Chelsea for 15 millions, he's really good and Slovenian too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 After the Pastore scenario, Palermo can fuck themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonPride1905 236 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 That was Pastore's choise, not Palermo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 That was Pastore's choise, not Palermo. zamp is a ballbag and id be happy for us to never encounter him again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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