TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I don't think you can win the biggest prizes without having a solid keeper in your team.Just look at the last 10 UCL winners...every team had a solid and/or top-class #1 keeper.I don't think Valdes has ever been a great keeper. He's been right for Barcelona because he can move the ball well, but on a team like Chelsea, he would have been only OK. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Belgian media report that Chelsea put a price on Courtois: €24 mil. Told you so, he's a goner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoop Nino Ktbffh 1 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Mourinho says we have the best goalkeeper in the world in Petr Cech and the best young goalkeeper in the world in Thibaut Courtois. Jose Mourinho on Thibaut Courtois: "We control the situation. Not Atletico. Not Barcelona" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Sure, he's still gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Sure, he's still gone. You'd like that wouldn't you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Mourinho says we have the best goalkeeper in the world in Petr Cech and the best young goalkeeper in the world in Thibaut Courtois. Jose Mourinho on Thibaut Courtois: "We control the situation. Not Atletico. Not Barcelona" May I ask, how does Jose controls the situation ?Is he going to bring him to Chelsea next year & him or Cech will sit on the bench or is he going to loan him out again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 You'd like that wouldn't youAs a Belgian I'd prefer him to be first keeper at Barca rather than struggle for a spot with Cech, who is equally great, yes. Is that a crime?The fact Chelsea put an actual price tag on his head (and 24 mil is not an impossible price) tells me they're at least considering his departure.This is what Courtois says in the same article: 'I feel great in Spain and I would like to stay here. I prefer the Primera Division to the Premier League. I'm not planning on warming the bench anywhere, even if it's at Chelsea. Becoming first choice for Barcelona is an opportunity no one would refuse.'Seems pretty clear to me.Chelsea and Mourinho are the ones deciding where he'll go next year, but tell me, how many clubs kept a player wanted by practically the entire world, while they couldn't even guarantee hem a spot in the team? Man Utd couldn't keep Ronaldo when he wanted to leave, Milan couldn't keep Kaka, Arsenal couldn't keep anyone. The options are either making a clear choice or destroying a lot of player value by keeping an unhappy talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 The fact Chelsea put an actual price tag on his head (and 24 mil is not an impossible price) tells me they're at least considering his departure. Sorry, has anyone from CFC come out and said, "we want 'x' much for Courtois"? You're making things up. The Mak and Ainsley Harriott 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 As a Belgian I'd prefer him to be first keeper at Barca rather than struggle for a spot with Cech, who is equally great, yes. Is that a crime?The fact Chelsea put an actual price tag on his head (and 24 mil is not an impossible price) tells me they're at least considering his departure.This is what Courtois says in the same article: 'I feel great in Spain and I would like to stay here. I prefer the Primera Division to the Premier League. I'm not planning on warming the bench anywhere, even if it's at Chelsea. Becoming first choice for Barcelona is an opportunity no one would refuse.'Seems pretty clear to me.Chelsea and Mourinho are the ones deciding where he'll go next year, but tell me, how many clubs kept a player wanted by practically the entire world, while they couldn't even guarantee hem a spot in the team? Man Utd couldn't keep Ronaldo when he wanted to leave, Milan couldn't keep Kaka, Arsenal couldn't keep anyone. The options are either making a clear choice or destroying a lot of player value by keeping an unhappy talent.Personally, I believe you are very clear on the whole matter.24m price is telling me, pay us 24m & Courtois is yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Sorry, has anyone from CFC come out and said, "we want 'x' much for Courtois"? You're making things up.http://www.nieuwsblad.be/sportwereld/cnt/dmf20131018_035The newspapers might be making things up. I'm just readin'. ,-)In the 'we are in control' article Mourinho also says:'We could also make a good financial deal, because both goalies are very valuable'.Read between the lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Mourinho says we have the best goalkeeper in the world in Petr Cech and the best young goalkeeper in the world in Thibaut Courtois. Jose Mourinho on Thibaut Courtois: "We control the situation. Not Atletico. Not Barcelona" Thats not true, if he had a contract for 4-5 years then i would agree, but since he only have 2 years left courtois has alot to say about his future, if he rufuse to sign a new contract we have to let him go for free, i quess some serious talking has to be done soonI would love it if he stay's here at chelsea but we still got a worldclass keeper aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 As a Belgian I'd prefer him to be first keeper at Barca rather than struggle for a spot with Cech, who is equally great, yes. Is that a crime?The fact Chelsea put an actual price tag on his head (and 24 mil is not an impossible price) tells me they're at least considering his departure.This is what Courtois says in the same article: 'I feel great in Spain and I would like to stay here. I prefer the Primera Division to the Premier League. I'm not planning on warming the bench anywhere, even if it's at Chelsea. Becoming first choice for Barcelona is an opportunity no one would refuse.'Seems pretty clear to me.Chelsea and Mourinho are the ones deciding where he'll go next year, but tell me, how many clubs kept a player wanted by practically the entire world, while they couldn't even guarantee hem a spot in the team? Man Utd couldn't keep Ronaldo when he wanted to leave, Milan couldn't keep Kaka, Arsenal couldn't keep anyone. The options are either making a clear choice or destroying a lot of player value by keeping an unhappy talent.No, it's not a crime.. just post this stuff on neutral football boards instead. It's obvious you want the best for Belgian players; I don't think you care about Chelsea much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 No, it's not a crime.. just post this stuff on neutral football boards instead. It's obvious you want the best for Belgian players; I don't think you care about Chelsea muchExcuse me, where do you read he does not care about Chelsea ?Please, take your time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Also, quarterback is easily the most important and difficult position to find in the NFL while keeper is the least important and easiest to find in football. (I'm not saying it doesn't matter, but teams can win with poor keepers and great defences can make mediocre keepers look great.). That wasn't the case with Ross Turnbull, poor keepers will instinctively make the defense more cautious knowing their is an error in the keeper.Also keepers that are good behind poor defenses and usually not as good when they have a good defense, Shay Given the perfect example. Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Hmmm so many reports about that 24 mil pricetag chelsea putted on his head now.Could be true and would mean that chelsea decided to keep cech for the upcoming years.Makes perfectly sense to me to be fair, cech is a chelsea legend and still worldclass, he also got atleast 5 years in him Some sources also reported that barca asked atletico to not bid for courtois and barca would loan/sell players to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I'm not using foul language and I'm not insulting anybody. It's a free world.I've been following the Premier league since I was a kid and I was obviously excited when a lot of Belgian players started playing in England. I'll support any team that plays them and any team that plays the football I like. This does not mean criticism is forbidden.To get back to the club, I was a huge fan of the Chelsea that won the Uefa Cup in '98, and later of the Hasselbaink Chelsea. The Abramovic Chelsea is somewhat harder to like for neutral, not London based fans (especially in the early years) but I have no negative feelings toward them since they had some of my favorite players in the past. Always been more of a player than a team fan outside of Belgium.But thanks for asking! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I'm not using foul language and I'm not insulting anybody. It's a free world.I've been following the Premier league since I was a kid and I was obviously excited when a lot of Belgian players started playing in England. I'll support any team that plays them and any team that plays the football I like. This does not mean criticism is forbidden.To get back to the club, I was a huge fan of the Chelsea that won the Uefa Cup in '98, and later of the Hasselbaink Chelsea. The Abramovic Chelsea is somewhat harder to like for neutral, not London based fans (especially in the early years) but I have no negative feelings toward them since they had some of my favorite players in the past. Always been more of a player than a team fan outside of Belgium.But thanks for asking! ;-)Fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Every player has a price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,908 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 So after hearing Mourinho speak at today's presser I have to say that it doesn't sound like Cech is going anywhere anytime soon. Which means Courtois likely will be. Can't see any way we'll just extend his contract and keep him at Athletico for another 5 years. Can't see him wanting that either.Even yesterday I said in here that there was no way we'd sell him, but after hearing Jose gush about Cech and call him the best in the world I think that if Barca offered something insane like 30m we'd sell him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 The fact Chelsea put an actual price tag on his head (and 24 mil is not an impossible price) tells me they're at least considering his departure. No, that's not a fact, that's just a rumor which you are building a lot of your assumptions on. There are thousands of rumors going around papers in Europe every week and I reckon less than 5% end up being true.Chelsea control the situation with Thibaut. If we want him to stay then he's stay at least till his contract is up. If we want him sold then he'll go to the team that we want to sell him to when we want to. The Mak and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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