The Mak 4,459 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 What will it be then? Most of us want him here but if a big offer comes along I don't think the board will swiftly reject it. I reckon they would consider it while we have a brilliant keeper as it stands.It will be on whether he'll be number 1 or not. Simple as that.If José says it's best for the club to have a top-class keeper for another 15 years instead of 5, then that is what will happen. We may get away with 1 year with both of them while Courtois gradually takes the mantle from Cech, which is the best we can hope for. (ala Chech-Cudicini)However, the decision will have to be made soon and it will be made on the basis of what is best for the club long-term and not based financially reasons. Since when do we need money anyway? If the club say we'll be ok for FFP, then we'll be ok. I'm not worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polo 18 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Am I the only one who thinks Courtois is a tad overrated? He's woeful on long shots and is way too parry-happy, nowhere near the complete GK people make him out to belCech is only 31 and is still playing at an extremely high level. Only Neuer is better for me, would be harsh to just bin a club legend for the youf fanboys.Stop bringing up his clean sheet record by the way. He has the best defense in the World protecting him.are you crazy??? The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Well, we do have all kinds in here. Some are out of it, some just sniffed into the world of football, but claim to be experts on what Jose or the club should do.Every day, it´s a hoot in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 i don't know howBuffon,casillas,valdes or Cech were at the same age but Courtois is amazingFixedDon't put that name in the same bracket with legends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrancken 8 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I'm pretty sure Courtois will be at chelsea next year and will enter into competition with Ceh. The only reason he is not here this year, is the world championship. Courtois is'nt afraid for being benched half a year, he will enter the competition with Ceh. the following transferperiod (winter 2014-2015 or summer 2015) we will have to make decisions.May the best keeper win.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Cech the 2nd best keeper in the world?No where near, no matter how many Chelsea supporters who think Cech is the greatest, he hasn't been his best for a long time now.Because our fans are morons.After the Champions League run in 2012 where he was by far the best GK in Europe that season how can anyone claim he's "nowhere near". Who's better Casillas who's a bench warmer? De Gea? Cesar? The increasingly error prone Buffon? Joe Hart?Where are these mistakes by the way, I need video evidence. Take away his bad form after his head injury and this wouldn't even be a debate. It's ridiculous how underappreciated Cech is..by our fans no less. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 are you crazy???What part was crazy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Well said. I saw Cech making several questionable calls for the past year or so.To me, there is no choice here. It´s Courtois all the way.Name the questionable calls, you can't just say something like that without video evidence or something.You're clearly biased, as with other sports the young player is almost always valued over his senior. So you look for the slightest fault or error to emphasize your point.I can almost guarantee Courtois has made more errors than Cech over the past 12 months and I'll give you videos of it once you point out Cech's errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Because our fans are morons.After the Champions League run in 2012 where he was by far the best GK in Europe that season how can anyone claim he's "nowhere near".Who's better Casillas who's a bench warmer? De Gea? Cesar? The increasingly error prone Buffon? Joe Hart?Where are these mistakes by the way, I need video evidence. Take away his bad form after his head injury and this wouldn't even be a debate. It's ridiculous how underappreciated Cech is..by our fans no less.I thought you would bring up Cechs Champions League performances, besides that he hasn't done much, he has been error prone and sometimes proves to be very weak. I can't forgive him for that Arsenal 5-3 game, one of the worst games from a keeper I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Am I the only one who thinks Courtois is a tad overrated? He's woeful on long shots and is way too parry-happy, nowhere near the complete GK people make him out to belCech is only 31 and is still playing at an extremely high level. Only Neuer is better for me, would be harsh to just bin a club legend for the youf fanboys.Stop bringing up his clean sheet record by the way. He has the best defense in the World protecting him.You could have Maldini and Beckenbauer in their prime at centre back and if the keepers dodgy you will still concede. If the keeper isn't good then it will lead to the defense being nervous knowing their is an error in the keeper. Is it any coincidence that Leti have turned into a great defensive side since Courtois has turned up? because they weren't before that when Asenjo was in goal. Chelsea's defense with JT and Ricky in their prime is lauded the same way United with Rio and Vidic in their prime were, but they wouldn't have been half as good without the world class keeper's they had behind them.We set the record for least goals conceded in a top flight season with 15, then the next season we got the joint 3rd highest i think with only 22 shipped in 38, yet the season after when Cech was injured the previous solid defense turned to jelly when Hilario was behind them, coincidence? i think not.I agree that Cech is under-rated, even by our own fans, but to put Courtois record down solely to the defense is unfair, very unfair. To answer your question no he is not over-rated, i meet a decent number of Spaniard's when i went to central America (most of them Barca/Madrid fans) and each and every one of them couldn't stop waxing lyrical's when i asked them about how good Courtois is.Their is the phrase that keeper are only as good as their defense, that is just as applicable the other way round, if not more so.We have a tough decision next summer, and luckily we have the best manager in the world making it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I hear he has a €24M release clause and I guess it will be Mourinho's word against Barcelona's word. As some of you have already said, next summer it will be decision time - if Courtois won't be granted a spot in the first team, I'm afraid that Barcelona will chose to match the release clause... You know, we are glad about his spell in Madrid and the fact he is the first choice there, and he has the chance to play in one of the best leagues in the world and win some domestic and european trophies, but unfortunately this might just turn against us at the end of this season and I would not be surprised if Courtois choses to go to Barcelona even though Mourinho will ensure that he'll be a starter here... He has settled very well in Spain, he is happy there, his Spanish is also very good and the most dangerous thing about it is that Barcelona really wants him and I'm sure they will do everything they can to play with his head and turn him against Chelsea.So 50-50 this one, let's just hope Jose will convince him to stay here because once he'll put the blue shirt on, Chelsea won't be looking for a new GK for the next 10-12 years. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I hear he has a €24M release clause and I guess it will be Mourinho's word against Barcelona's word. As some of you have already said, next summer it will be decision time - if Courtois won't be granted a spot in the first team, I'm afraid that Barcelona will chose to match the release clause... You know, we are glad about his spell in Madrid and the fact he is the first choice there, and he has the chance to play in one of the best leagues in the world and win some domestic and european trophies, but unfortunately this might just turn against us at the end of this season and I would not be surprised if Courtois choses to go to Barcelona even though Mourinho will ensure that he'll be a starter here... He has settled very well in Spain, he is happy there, his Spanish is also very good and the most dangerous thing about it is that Barcelona really wants him and I'm sure they will do everything they can to play with his head and turn him against Chelsea.So 50-50 this one, let's just hope Jose will convince him to stay here because once he'll put the blue shirt on, Chelsea won't be looking for a new GK for the next 10-12 years.Since when did Chelsea use release clauses? When has any other Chelsea player been reported to have a release clause? Its just bullshit media reports I reckon, many clubs in Englands don't include such a clause in contracts, its more a continental thing as we've seen in Spain, France, Portugal and Italy in the last 10 years. Plus Chelsea aren't a selling club as well, we've seen that. Bar Robben who was the last good player we sold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Bar Robben who was the last good player we sold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I thought you would bring up Cechs Champions League performances, besides that he hasn't done much, he has been error prone and sometimes proves to be very weak. I can't forgive him for that Arsenal 5-3 game, one of the worst games from a keeper I've ever seen.Ok but mind providing evidences or examples to back your claim that Cech has been error prone and proving to be very weak sometimes? TorontoChelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Name the questionable calls, you can't just say something like that without video evidence or something.You're clearly biased, as with other sports the young player is almost always valued over his senior. So you look for the slightest fault or error to emphasize your point.I can almost guarantee Courtois has made more errors than Cech over the past 12 months and I'll give you videos of it once you point out Cech's errors.Let me help you a bit here.Not every blunder by cech was recorded. Most likely, you have not seen it. They do not show it on highlights.One more thing. Don´t tell me I am biased ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Ok but mind providing evidences or examples to back your claim that Cech has been error prone and proving to be very weak sometimes?Look I had found one of the costly ones.Chelsea's English Premier League title hopes suffered a big blow on Saturday as a costly error by goalkeeper Petr Cech allowed lowly Wigan to snatch a 1-1 draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Seems like courtois got a 24mil buyout clausule in his contract, barca are willing to trigger that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Seems like courtois got a 24mil buyout clausule in his contract, barca are willing to trigger thatSounds like bollocks and not very us. guddy69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Yeah , was thinking the same when i was reading that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guddy69 174 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Let me help you a bit here.Not every blunder by cech was recorded. Most likely, you have not seen it. They do not show it on highlights.One more thing. Don´t tell me I am biased !They would show in on the highlights!They are always desperate to highlight cech's mistakes so they can say "since the injury" Brilliant goalkeeper.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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