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Funny thing is, everytime Marin has started a game this season, Benitez hasn't played the best XI and the overall team's performance have been either average or poor. And in turn, it made Marin looks bad every single time.

I agree, in other words poor Marko has been ruthlessly thrown under the bus. At times Moses has been just as bad or even worse than Marin but he still gets picked to play with Hazard and Mata, making it much easier for an average player to look good. In my opinion, neither Marin or Moses are anything special but they can both do the job as a squad player when occasionally used together with the big boys but starting with purely the second string will always end up in a disaster.
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I agree, in other words poor Marko has been ruthlessly thrown under the bus. At times Moses has been just as bad or even worse than Marin but he still gets picked to play with Hazard and Mata, making it much easier for an average player to look good. In my opinion, neither Marin or Moses are anything special but they can both do the job as a squad player when occasionally used together with the big boys but starting with purely the second string will always end up in a disaster.

The vital difference is that Moses is a proven player in this league with even worse players than Marin takes the pitch with. That is why he gets more playing time with the first XI, and for good reason IMO.

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The vital difference is that Moses is a proven player in this league with even worse players than Marin takes the pitch with. That is why he gets more playing time with the first XI, and for good reason IMO.

Being proven in the league is a tad different from being proven at the highest level. Moses has done OK so far(form dipped after returning from AFCON) but yet to fully convince. As for Marin, he hasn't proved himself at the highest level yet but how do one even expect him to prove himself in the league when he only gets the odd game here and there and when he does, the team always play poorly which in turn, affected his game and performance too.

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Seriously.

Yeah yeah he needs playing time to adapt and to show his worth and bla bla bla. You do realise that he is already 24 years-old and that he has nearly played 200 professional games in his career ? How many more games do you think he needs to prove something ? And it seems to be the concensus that since 2010 he hasn't delivered in Germany. Werder fans seemed to be happy to offload him. Di Matteo didn't trust him neither Benitez. Damn, even Bertrand and Benayoun get picked-up before him !

Which additional evidence do you need to start saying he is not a good player ? You need him to stick around for six years, à la Kalou, to eventually realise that he should not be here ?

And it's not even as if he was showing glimpses of genuine qualities. Does he have a good holding-up game ? A passing game ? A good crossing ability ? Vision ? Defensive abilities ? Nothing of that. Yeah, one could throw in the defense "oh, but when he is playing the team is poor". It can be true at some extent. But does it prevent him to show something ? No.

The fact is that he has nothing special in him... He was just another "flavor of the month" among so many others, who couln't make it.

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Being proven in the league is a tad different from being proven at the highest level. Moses has done OK so far(form dipped after returning from AFCON) but yet to fully convince. As for Marin, he hasn't proved himself at the highest level yet but how do one even expect him to prove himself in the league when he only gets the odd game here and there and when he does, the team always play poorly which in turn, affected his game and performance too.

Very true, but even that aside a player has to take their chances when placed on the pitch. You wont always have an Ashley Cole(of past) or Juan Mata with you.

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Dear Chelsea FC Scouts,

Next time you decide to raid the Bundesliga, please get one of Draxler, Bittencourt, Leitner or Gotze instead... not some washed up midget called Marko Marin who hasn't been anywhere near as good as he was in 2010.

Yours,

Ryan.

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