TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Our poor, terrible, woeful, awful, mediocre, uncreative, passionless, stupid, old, pathetic squad is maybe the third best in the PL. Stop deluding yourself, it's the manager who is hauling us down.Arsene>AVBSAF>AVBRedknapp>AVBMancini>AVBYou've virtually contradicted yourself. This isn't AVB's squad, let him build one then make that point. AVB is doing what he think is best with the squad we have, it's not our shape, formation or any of that but a tired squad yearning some fresh and creative additions (not to mention little mistakes by some players). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 You've virtually contradicted yourself. This isn't AVB's squad, let him build one then make that point. AVB is doing what he think is best with the squad we have, it's not our shape, formation or any of that but a tired squad yearning some fresh and creative additions.Exactly!! All of them have been at their club for a while now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I will completely lose my faith in this club if we sack him now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Do you make that joke every week? Christ sake.Maybe you should try and SUPPORT a Chelsea manager for once.every time we get the same bad result, play the same football and make the same joke, you dont realized that ?ask VB to change things and you wont see that in after the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 You've virtually contradicted yourself. This isn't AVB's squad, let him build one then make that point. AVB is doing what he think is best with the squad we have, it's not our shape, formation or any of that but a tired squad yearning some fresh and creative additions.Clutching at straws I see? Where is the contradiction? Its HIS squad, irrelevant of who built it. Last year it was Carlos squad even though Mourinho built 3/4th of it.He's not getting enough out of them. They are merely playing on his instructions and it's miserable to watch. If he can't get consistent performances out of a good team, than it's his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 As the saying goes in French, you can't turn a donkey into a race horse. No one will turn Torres into a 30-goals-a-season player, no one will turn Meireles into the next Xavi, no one will turn Bosingwa into the new Dani Alvès, etc... Our team is filled with mid-table players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Exactly!! All of them have been at their club for a while now...Do you ever feel any disappointment or anger?Or do you like being beaten constantly at home?just how bad is our home record?Fecking happyclappers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Honestly, I know our squad is not good enough to challenge for the trophy, but AVB is doing a terrible job. For me its pretty clear that with a better squad he wont do a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 every time we get the same bad result, play the same football and make the same joke, you dont realized that ?ask VB to change things and you wont see that in after the next game.It seems like you're happy when we he fails, every time a manager does bad you say we should sack him e.g Carlo.Why cant you just support them? instead of making these unfunny 'jokes'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Clutching at straws I see? Where is the contradiction? Its HIS squad, irrelevant of who built it. Last year it was Carlos squad even though Mourinho built 3/4th of it.He's not getting enough out of them. They are merely playing on his instructions and it's miserable to watch. If he can't get consistent performances out of a good team, than it's his fault.Your missing the point completely, how can 3 additions too a squad suddenly transcend into a squad built by AVB. Give him January ffs, just a window too make this squad his own and then you can complain. Sacking AVB NOW WILL MAKE this difficult period redundant, and we'll be back to square 1 in our ruthless sacking of managers. None of us are happy at these results but we can't afford to sack a manager on emotion. Use your brains and look at the bigger picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 As the saying goes in French, you can't turn a donkey into a race horse. No one will turn Torres into a 30-goals-a-season player, no one will turn Meireles into the next Xavi, no one will turn Bosingwa into the new Dani Alvès, etc... Our team is filled with mid-table players.Ah, but my friend, nobody is asking him to turn a donkey into a racehorse. But it's pretty sickening that he's turning our beloved donkey into a some sort of hideous creature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Do you ever feel any disappointment or anger?Or do you like being beaten constantly at home?just how bad is our home record?Fecking happyclappers.No because because I dont feel surprised anymore,after the Arsenal loss maybe but this loss werent a shock and was coming for a while really.Dissapointed in the performance and the fact the players looked like they couldnt give a crap but that just seemed to be the way they're playing at the moment like teams that arent in the top arent worth turning up forAnd besides we've only lost one game more then Man U at home..3 losses aint the worse home record... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 We sack AVB this will happen.Hiddink will come in temporarily again, then next season the new manager will want to "aceess" our deadwood and give them another chance.Great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 When Ramires went to Chelsea, he said there is no pressure, the fans never ask for anything. Very different from what happen in Brazil or in Portugal. It pisses me off when I read people saying this thread is useless after all the evidences showing AVB is not the right man.If you dont want the axe on his head, at least recognize he is not this great manager everybody thought he was, recognize he is not doing a good job, and recognize he must improve to honor the money he is receiving. People come here and say he never make mistakes, he has nothing to do with our bad form. Gimme a break, this is getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 We sack AVB this will happen.Hiddink will come in temporarily again, then next season the new manager will want to "aceess" our deadwood and give them another chance.Great idea.Thats if Hiddick even wants to come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 It seems like you're happy when we he fails, every time a manager does bad you say we should sack him e.g Carlo.Why cant you just support them? instead of making these unfunny 'jokes'.When we win he goes hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Manchester United were in a similar position squad wise to us in 2001/2002 and were 9th at this stage.We can't blame AVB he is trying to do a rebuilding job that really should have been started the second we touched down from Moscow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death B4 Dishonour 32 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 It's simple we as fans need to have patience. chelsea is not the team we once were. we have to stick by AVB his plans are solid. We just have to get rid of the "deadwood" some players that have pasted their time but have serviced the club well.Why does everyone point the finger straight to the manage he is doing a fantastic job considering he is working with a team that is full of worn out players in their 30's . The players themselves besides a select few show no pride in wearing a chelsea jersey and no gratitude for the position they are in. I think the best thing for chelsea this year is to not finish in the top 4. Then maybe the squad would show hunger and desire to win games instead of playing like a bunch of zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 We sack AVB this will happen.Hiddink will come in temporarily again, then next season the new manager will want to "aceess" our deadwood and give them another chance.Great idea.EXACTLY, I think some people are blind to the bigger picture and actually expected AVB to pull of a treble immediately. Alex Ferguson was so close to receiving a pink slip but didn't. 20 years later look where the prick has brought them. Temporary Salvation in bringing Hiddink back is absurd, we MUST give AVB the time to bring in some new faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 AvB is NOT doing good. this is a fact not a subject for a public debate. He holds responsibilty but he should not and MUST NOT take all the blames. I honestly think tht this form does not warrant a sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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