manpe 10,861 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Why were B'ham fans chanting for Mourinho? What was the purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Club needs to admit they fucked up...again18 wins from 37 games with a full squad of internationals.No where near good enoughIt wasn't good enough last season either. Now the players are a year older. This was supposed to be Torres' season, except we all know how that has worked out. It's easy tp blame the manager but we were awful last season, we are even worse this season, the deadweight in the squad is the problem, there are far too many players in the squad who simply aren't up to the standard required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5221 91 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I keep hearing that we should stick with him because he is youngSurely there should be a footballing reason to keep him?Tactics - NoTeam harmony - NoSubstitutions - NoMotivation - NoSelection - NoBringing through youth - NoPlayers respect -NoThe sort physio?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 The sort physio??fuckin hell Steve i retract everything. If only she could be persuaded to do a topless shoot in the magazine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Good tactics in 2 out of 37 games not good enough really.So if its the players disrupting harmony, motivation, and respect for him, then the employer is duty bound to fire the manager. Maybe when the golden oldies on the bench are gone you will see less player power, but the fact remains having a manager as young as that has been a big mistake by the club. Someone of the age of Mark hughes, Martin O'Neill and David Moyes are now the perfect age for a manager. All of them have had a good period of management and are young enough and experienced enough to become top managers with a top club.David Moyes was the only manager to get before AVB.And if Chelsea can't spend because we fire AVB and throw away 100 million in managers and Torres in 2 season, then Moyes would be the only manager to work with little resources.It's not Mourinho! Cause he will bitch and moan that he does not have the resources to produce a good omelet....Moyes can work with even a budget of 25mill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 David Moyes was the only manager to get before AVB.And if Chelsea can't spend because we fire AVB and throw away 100 million in managers and Torres in 2 season, then Moyes would be the only manager to work with little resources.It's not Mourinho! Cause he will bitch and moan that he does not have the resources to produce a good omelet....Moyes can work with even a budget of 25mill!Moyes sells and then buys.Its time we implement a similar philosophy.We must sell our players at the right time so that we can avoid paying their pensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 Also we could do a lot worse than some blokes with Chelsea tradition both Poyet and Brendan Rogers are doing some lovely stuff...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Moyes sells and then buys.Its time we implement a similar philosophy.We must sell our players at the right time so that we can avoid paying their pensions.It's easier said then done!People here only want to sell when the player is past his sell by date.Like A. Cole. He should have been sold last season, I even said he should be a couple of weeks ago and got slated because of that.Fact is that it's easier to said we should have sold this guy last season when we could have gotten more money.Should have, could have, would have...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Would Moyes be able to handle a big club though? So far he's had to manage with limited budgets and "small club mentality", we don't know how he'd fare with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Good tactics in 2 out of 37 games not good enough really.So if its the players disrupting harmony, motivation, and respect for him, then the employer is duty bound to fire the manager. Maybe when the golden oldies on the bench are gone you will see less player power, but the fact remains having a manager as young as that has been a big mistake by the club. Someone of the age of Mark hughes, Martin O'Neill and David Moyes are now the perfect age for a manager. All of them have had a good period of management and are young enough and experienced enough to become top managers with a top club.No, you would sack the employee who's disrupting the work space. What AVB did for Porto is no fluke, he won the treble, including the Europa league. Now i know you cant compare that to the premier league, but even last season we were playing just as bad, and we had Carlo... he has enough experience... right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Would Moyes be able to handle a big club though? So far he's had to manage with limited budgets and "small club mentality", we don't know how he'd fare with us.I think it's far more better choice then the choices people give here.Cause if they fire AVB to get someone like Brendan then they did not learn anything and it's the same bullshit all over again.They want a young untested manager because he had one or two good seasons....I would take a proven manager with over a decade worth experience in the EPL like Moyes any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I always thought Moyes is a good manager, I bet he would be cheaper and would do better than AVB, but Im sure If we fire him, the board would try another expensive manager, perhaps Capello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 No, you would sack the employee who's disrupting the work space.What AVB did for Porto is no fluke, he won the treble, including the Europa league. Now i know you cant compare that to the premier league, but even last season we were playing just as bad, and we had Carlo... he has enough experience... right.If a manager or teacher cant control his pupils -every place I have worked they are quietly ushered out the door.The club needs to employ someone who commands respect -the last was Mourinho, but this nerd isnt up to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Two good match out of 37? I would say those are outliersTwo examples of what happens when the players listen to the coach, and his tatics, and theres no disruption.At the end of the day we can slate AVB, but the same thing happened last season we were playing like shite, god knows how we managed to finish second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Also we could do a lot worse than some blokes with Chelsea tradition both Poyet and Brendan Rogers are doing some lovely stuff......How exactly are they more experienced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 How exactly are they more experienced?Ex Chelsea and know the Premership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 It is manager's duty to get a grip over his squad. Things are little bit unfair for AvB because he inherited a bunch of larger-than-club players . But at the end of the he would be responsible for losing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 If a manager or teacher cant control his pupils -every place I have worked they are quietly ushered out the door.The club needs to employ someone who commands respect -the last was Mourinho, but this nerd isnt up to itIt's not all of the pupils, it's a few who continue to do it when things don't go their way. How come some respect him and others don't... it's a common theme when we hire a new manager... it's because they think they're bigger than the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Ex Chelsea and know the PremershipAvb worked with Chelsea as well, when Mourinho was in charge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I feel sorry for this man, he looks tired and desillusioned. He made a mistake leaving Porto too soon, he wasnt ready yet, know he is doing a terrible job and should improve or get the axe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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