Rubber bullets

When they nominate for end of season awards, it would be a good idea to do it at the end of the season, not when there is 5 games to play and anything could happen. Luiz vs Basel goal of the season by far, yet I have already voted for Oscar.

Even thought it was never a penalty, its frustrating that we never really went at them until we conceded. Thank god for Luiz though, even if he made 4-5 mistakes that could have cost us.

And again, you're not reading properly. I will be laughing at the people who have basically belittled the club as something that is Jose's thing, and that he makes or break the club, which I have already said on this thread but you seem incapable of understanding.

Its not becuase I'm pessimistic that he won't come. I don't want him back in the first place (you already know this - which is why I won't repeat my reasons for it)

Well sorry, but this thread and the whole Mourinho debacle does seem to have killed a few brain cells in everybody and the concept of rationality being completly thrown out of the window

I'm already laughing at how people like you have posted in this topic. Whether he comes or not, the amount of orgasmic groping that has come on for one manager to come here as though he makes or breaks the club has to me as supporter of this club been cringeworthy

I for one will be laughing at them.

3 points, now watch us fuck it up at Anfield and see this game become pointless.

Ruiz would have cleared the ball of the line had Terry not headed in.

Sorry Ivanovic, but please find another club in the ummer if you want to keep your reputation in tact. You're pretty much fucking it up to the abyss.

Meh, there have been worse. Remember Drogba and Ballack having a right go at each other on the simple issue on who should take a free kick. Coincidentally it was one of the very few times Ballack was the star of the show.

Sorry bud, but in today's world with financial play rules and the increasing competitive nature and difficulty in competing, then it really does matter on how the team is structered on who is more important and who gets paid motr. Frank is on at least £120,000 a week and at best he can only be an impact luxary player for us. Sure he can score goals every now and again, but in a changing team which does not focus on his goal scoring abilities and the criteria set up for him to play in - he has to adapt (which he seems to refuse to do). But since you like throwing phrases like 'he has so much leadership' and 'he reperesents the club' - then sorry that I then hold him up the higher standards. Like I said he is being paid over £120,000 a week - by that he should be giving consistent good performances, but like I said people throwing rubbish like the word leadership seem to use it to to try and brush off the fact that he is often been poor this season, and that he is refusing to adapt his game in order to help the team. Just him scoring some goals is not enough, as a midfielder who is clearly declining he should be looking at other ways to contribute to the team, but he does not, and thats a big reason why he should go. Funny though that you sight one of the reason why Jose has to come back is becauuse of his relationship with Lampard, but just last year he and Madrid let Raul, a player like Lampard who many considered one of the faces of the club he reperesented in the last decade, leave becuase of the clash of interest between what Raul had and what the club wannted. The irony of your last few posts on this topic is quite funny actually.

Lol. Yes, how dare there someone to have the AUDACITY to criticise a player who the clubs pays massive wages to constantly perform below par .

Hm big games, would that be the ones like the Super Cup Final? Club world cup final? Manchester City? United? Some of the big games where he was poor in all of them? The problem I have with the people who through out the word leadership with Lampard is that its used like its some kind of magical pixie dust in order to justify why Lampard should still play a big part in the teams plans. In other words its being used to try and brush of some piss poor performances this season.

But in all those games he is one of the first players to go missing as soon as thier midfield starts to put pressure. Brilliant leadership, would you honestly make him the leader of a platoon about to go to battle when he easily goes missing when things start to get difficult?

It won't be the 4-2-3-1, it will be if he puts Lampard and Ramires in the pivot. Mikel and Ramires should be fine, but the former will just see Ramires being wasted trying to be the DM in order to free up Lampard, who will just be anonymous and picked of by the likes of Toure.

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What an enigma Torres is - between 10-15 games of dross he has one where he is simply unstoppable, would win you any game that perfromance.

How much do Rubin Kazan use their midfield? Becuase I fear Lampard and Ramires will be anonymous yet again.

No you plonker.

Oh no not that wanker. If thats the case I definitly do not want Jose to come back.

Well it shows that what ever he touches does not mean it will become a sweet rosy garden that will last for years and years. Which is what some people suggest happened after Jose left and give him credit for any future trophies we won under the context that "Jose built the team".

But to bring another point (which I have expressed repeatadly) its not just about how long you stay there (of course it has a part in it) buts its also the philosphy you use on how to shaoe the dressing room. Jouse Mourinho is football's personifcation of hedonism - he is there if you want instant success (providing you give him bug funds to buy players he wants, ususually those over the age of 25), but its what happens after he leaves, as it seems that he creates a dressing room that is difficult to manage becuase of the big egos he creates and as seen with Inter - filling the team with players in their 20s, past their prime but under him given long term contracts. Meaning its hard to get rid of them to replace them with younger players. As seen with us after years and years of trying to keep the status quo, we are going to have to go through a couple of years of major reconstruction to be a constant force in football. More so look at Inter, after a few years as club who could only get into the Europa league, they are only now starting reconsturct themselves and go into the right direction, replacing their older players that were given huge contracts under Jose with younger players who can take the club forward. We already had our go with Jose's way of running the team, I sincerely believe trying to do it again will just not give us the same success.

He got 96 points in the only La Liga campaing he had with them, at that point the most in Madrid's history. There were two factors that went against him, the fact that one of the greatest teams in history were at their peak and got 99 points (that may also be seen as why the Spanish league is seen as shit and boring for those not supporting the top 2) and that pro-Madrid publications like Marca (who have influences on the running of the club) hated him from day one and seem to staged a horrible media campaign to get him out. The club even admit that had Mourinho not been available they would have given him another season. I think its a bit harsh to say it was a complete failure.

The problem is he is only going to be here for at most 3-4 years at a maximun before leaving either through arguments with the board and/or players. Looking at his tenure in Real Madrid its not certain he is going to be a huge success with us like last time (he has to win the CL this season with Madrid otherwise Madrid fans will considere his reign a massive disappointment) but it does seem that he always leaves with a dressing room with over powered egos and a atmosphere that is prone to be volatile atmosphere for future managers. Klopp would be my dream manager, seems to have the right approach for a club to be sustainable in long term (even if he does not stay there for 5+ years) measurements, but since he is someone who is unikely to agree to join us then someone like Pellegrini. Who bases his tactics on the best players less on trying to create big egos to drive the team.