See what youre saying and Ramires took near enough a season to be comfortable -but we have quite a few boys from Brazil now who will let him know the SP. The Premier league can be physical, but the South American leagues are quite fond of kicking lumps out of each other as well, so not much of a learning curve in that respect.. theres the wet and freezing Wednesday night away at Sunderland argument, but most players know their full responsibilities now with a few exceptions ie Tevez. With regard to positioning theres too much pigeon holeing going on -flexibilty, as with Luiz and Ramires all over the shop, is the key but behind and feeding Torres could be devastating.