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The problem summed for Torres in 3 words is: HE IS SHIT!.... nothing more nothing less

LMAO

A win is a win! Bring on Arsenal! Hope Sturridge is fit for that game

Yessss! Ashley Cole shows Torres how to do it! Seriously I would rather see a holding mid upfront against Arsenal rather than Torres. Torres won't threaten Arsenal's defence at all.

Yessss! Ashley Cole shows Torres how to do it! Seriously I would rather see a holding mid upfront against Arsenal rather than Torres. Torres won't threaten Arsenal's defence at all.

Goal for Lukaku! So pleased for him. I would 100% rather him over Torres right now

Moses on asap please

About time he started, especially with Odemwingie suspended for 3 games. Big chance for him to prove himself

Will be funny if Torres scores and we get the stupid comments such as: "What are the Torres haters saying now?" Doesnt really prove anything, we are at home and these are games he should be scoring in. The scrutiny will still be on him, but if he has a shocker today I will lose literally all my patience with him, especially with Arsenal coming up.

He is fine and doesnt look tired at all. He has got a good week's rest after this, presuming he don't play against Wolves.

Like the lineup. Good thing is if we have struggled to breakthrough or want to finish of the game he is our best option to bring on due to his pace, trickery and dribbling ability. Look how dangerous Moses was when he came on against QPR. Hopefully we take advantage while Man City and United face Arsenal and Liverpool.

Falcao won't stop scoring. That is the difference.

Goal.com can stir a little and make stories up but if true I can understand Sturridge attitude. He deserves to start much more upfront but has not been given the chance to so far. All subsitute appearances and he should be given the chance to play more upfront which is his favoured position

The real problem is that he is history. He is not good enough anymore, like Owen they were both brilliant at Liverpool but they are not good enough to replicate the same form at any other club

Regardless, this talk of working hard needs to stop. It is quite ridiculous. Kezman use to work hard and drop deep but he was awful at us. Does that mean we should keep him? Not at all. Torres is here to score. I hope that if you and the other people who like Torres for is work ethic are not the same ones wanting Malouda out because it is horribly contradicting. Malouda works hard but many people don't appreciate this and think he is a crap player. I don't think Torres is awful but he is not good enough to be our no.1 for a whole season. But I find it a concern that in our last 3 matches: Atletico, QPR and Juventus Torres has been a mere spectator. Not good enough for a £50m striker, regardless of how much effort he puts in.

To be fair in an aerial battle no Chelsea defender will deal with him. It is just about which player has the better anticipating. We rarely concede to Stoke at home despite their huge strikers so I am fairly confident either way which CB RDM decides to put out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt19y30B5sc&feature=related The day I see a goal like that from Torres here would make my day

Ok but the goals against Sunderland, Blackburn and Arsenal were all goals of a difficult angle and worthy of a goal of season contender to be fair mate. The technique was class

No it wasnt. Look at his goal against Blackburn which was out of this world and his goals against Arsenal was from that range mate. When Liverpool beat us 2-0 I am sure his second goals was from a distance but even if it wasnt I know it was a very clinical finish. Has not scored any kind of goals here in the same calibre of his strikes at Liverpool

Arsenal in the Champions League quarters/semis where Liverpool won 4-2 IIRC, Liverpool 4-0 Blackburn, Liverpool 2-0 Chelsea. There was quite a few more as well but look at some of his compilation of goals and you would see that he scored some fantastic goals at Liverpool

http://www.westlondonsport.com/chelsea/di-matteo-expects6-quick12-sturridge-return

Sad to think of all the 20-30 yard screamers he scored for Liverpool yet he has not scored any such goal for us. Even Sheva scored the odd screamer for us

Thank you and some others (well one in particular) thinks me making that comment that they are rough is ludicrous. At least someone shares the same viewpoint as me

I still don't take my comment back that maybe he should be a sub against Stoke due to their physical nature. If he starts on saturday fair play to him because he has earned it but I would understand why RDM would decide to drop him to the bench

Yes, but one brilliant goal against Juventus doesnt make him all of a sudden Lionel Messi. We all saw what happened with Deco when he came. Oscar is younger and still has maturing and buliking up to do and RDM is wise to slowly introduce him into the starting 11 for every game. If Oscar had not scored that wonder goal yesterday many people would have expected him to be a sub. We still have many other wingers/attacking mids who deserve to start as well. I would have no problem seeing Hazard-Mata-Moses