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Do you think language will be a barrier? man we do like to roll with very thin squads esp in UCL seasons! Isn’t James injured atm?

On the other hand, using your bats argument, we’ve got quite a few managers who consistently did not give him minutes. 2 of them also happened to be Italian.

Yeah esp at home when chasing a goal. And get azpi to rest a bit... managers clearly value azpi’s leadership on and off the pitch, but thought that with Jorginho they could rest him a bit and playing Zapacosta more. Odd.

Reminds me a lot of Oscar - before Oscar lost his pace and acceleration (for whatever reason). clever player with loads of skill and tight control, which makes him able to operate in tight spaces. A goal threat. On top o f that great work rate and aggression. Reckon he’s going to be a key player against the big teams. where did he come from? Slipped under most peoples radar or was i the one sleeping under a rock? didier above likes bakayoko, but Oscar was the shit one. Reminds me a lot of a different didier on here.

Heh good point.

Leicester city dominated the second half. They won every second ball esp after giroud left. They bullied us and did not need to sit and counter. we have more opportunities to score in the first, and they had far more chances in the second. yes, legs were prob a bit heavy given pool game, but some problems are recurring.

Brilliant! if you stick cho and james in this squad my money would be on relegation, but whatever. I see a vast improvement in our performance when giroud in on. I think it has more to do with Tammy being poor, but I digress.

Think zouma remains a problem, once again not for having a poor game, or making mistakes, but by being unable to work in a high press. And his positioning is also a bit disappointing considering his other shortcomings. second half was as bad as it gets. Bullied, esp once giroud left, because then we lost all second balls and could not keep possession. Another 15 minutes and Leicester would’ve easily won the match. lots of work to do and I’m worried by what I see from Lampard. I’m yet to see an improvement coming from the locker room. His subs rarely improve the team and are ill-timed.

but we are not a small club. I’m just telling you, from experience, what can happen, not what I want to happen. The scenario you picture is a nice one, but the ones I’ve experienced are far less rosy. football is a game of imposition, and the physically, not to mention experience, of the senior players does make a difference. We were bullied today at home by Leicester city. They won all second balls esp after Tammy came on. That’s why you don’t throw many youngsters in the starting xi at once. Do it gradually to retain balance and remain competitive. They develop better that way too. strikers need confidence and Tammy must not be feeling very confident today. Did you see that shot in row z? He was very bad when he came on. People will focus on those 2 good plays, but he was bad at everything else. We were unable to keep possession, hence why we got bullied and Leicester were the far better side in the second half.

I like mount and think he has a lot of qualities. Reminds me a lot of Oscar - the good things. sure with a midfield of 3 Ross can make that a bit more attacking which he’s done last season. dont think the pivot is working very well atm.

Sure it does feel unfair. Ross is also the established player, which makes it a bit odd.

Managers have favorites. It’s a pretty known and accepted thing. It’s their prerogative to rely on certain individuals to carry out his ideas. it’s also about characteristics though. How they want their team to play and what they are expecting from each player. If conte were still here, Alonso would still be playing a big part - and likely well enough in that system.

Yes and that’s usually the hardest thing esp at a top club, give minutes to the aspiring player. I think many here are disregarding the negative effects that struggling and losing can have on youth. once their confidence is in the shitter they won’t be improving a whole lot.

Nobody said he’s not going to be good enough for Chelsea. Agree that it is too soon for that, but we need goals and good play to win games and help the team, and right now tammy is providing neither. Good enough to lead the line is about perceived potential and also characteristics. We have to look at other top clubs and what type of players work nowadays. I see a lot of mobile skillful strikers and not many target men. Perhaps a really dominant target man would break that, myself and others don’t see that sort of potential in Tammy. Would very much like to be very wrong here tho. Very often hat I want to happen isn’t what I think will happen.

What a sliding tackle that was!

Don’t bother. He never replies with arguments - he has none. that guy just a fucking troll who only likes kids, not chelsea. Absolute worst poster on this site. Some here also overvalue the impact young players can have. Everybody (myself included) wants the shiny new toy, esp homegrown, but results are important to develop these very same younger players. They need stability which is only found with balance and patience. I’ve seen attempts to develop a lot of youngsters all at once... it never ends well. tammy is so very green,. It does not matter if in 6 months from now he’s more settled and scores a few goals, right now it’s hard to win games with him on the pitch. Perhaps @LAM09 has a point and we need to give bats a run of game to actually get some goals in and results.

Oh no, he’s definitely a good finisher and a proven one at that. Unfortunately, he’s also not a very good football player, which makes him quite the wrong choice for a high press.

Hah fair enough. I’m paid for the stuff I actually know, as it should be. the difference between you and I is that I understand I’m a fan and no more than that. The arrogance is very strong on this one. and once again your replies add no content whatsoever. Just a troll.

I very much disagree with calling a player who won us many games, playing as a starter for the entire winning campaign, a turd. I just happen to value silverware, winning, and important goals. you get that I was actually referring to batshuaiy and why he does not get games and has not during the tenure of several managers, right? for every Emerson, who might have been able to contribute sooner and even rotate with Alonso, there were players we never got to see bc they were bad. Emerson btw who had barely played (made that point in his thread many times). I barely saw KDB play. I was one of the 3-4 ppl who saw a lot of potential in salah, but you can’t even do that if the player does not play. The question is always should he even get minutes? whether a player plays or not is entirely up to the manager and coaches at the club. They watch them in practice drills, we don’t. A lot of the poor players we never get to see because coaches will take one look at them and see that they aren’t going to cut it. sometimes they err in not giving time to players who deserve it, and others by giving time to players who don’t, like bakayoko. That’s normal and happens everywhere, but again, we don’t see a lot of their successes. Of course KDB and salah were special fuckups, but those too happen a lot. We shouldn’t be crying for missing on lukaku for 70m now should we? regarding giroud, not sure who you are arguing with - nobody said giroud is going to improve or that he’s a solution for us. Just that at this time, against tough opposition, he’s the better option. Losing or struggling does not help with the confidence of the younger players either. Senior players are more used to these various different situations, whereas youngsters may lose confidence more easily. Giroud also offers more even when he is not scoring, which at this time is more important for the team. I also do not see a lot of potential in tammy tbh, but he should and will get minutes this season. There is no need to rush him though, given that giroud can help at this time of transition and give that air of stability this young team needs.

Couldn’t care less. Either sign the contract or move back to the youth team.

I suspect the reason is that bats is indisciplined and unfocused (low work rate too), which is something managers usually hate, esp in the modern game. regarding cover, we usually run very thin squads regardless of UCL or not. Kinda weird but that’s the way we roll.

We were actually talking about batshuai here sorry for the confusion. or did you really mean Tammy? if so, my point is that frank is the one rushing him this early, and I think that’s the risky part.

Bundle discount!? Realistically, not only the deal would be extremely difficult to pull of, but also, he just would not accept to join us. As mentioned above. our current reality is to try to find the next hazard as a young player and not lose him like we did KDB and salah. Perhaps Pulisic and/or CHO are it, who knows.

For every Emerson, a case where a run of games allows the player to improve, because he actually had potential, there are 100 others who don’t get the minutes because they really shouldn’t. that’s why we have the manager and a myriad of coaches to assess that. Like tomo said, different managers don’t like what they see in bats in training or in matches. looks like the club will rather give Tammy minutes instead, and I have no problem with that. Just think it’s risky business for Lampard.

We watched different games buddy. We conceded 2 goals, he was asleep for one of them. Salah had a strong game and kepa stopped him a couple of times. but please let’s not discuss whether zouma can tackle, defend, win headers, that’s not my point. Likely he will settle and do that consistently. If that’s all it takes for you to think he’s a good starter for us, great! but that is not nearly enough for me.