BlueLyon

The club is beyond stupid if they go after those two for 50m. 50m man. We are in dire need for new striker, but thing is we should rather pay 100m on someone who is actualy top instead of forking 50m on those average ones and then splash 50m in summer again. Will the club realise that paying big on average players is the worst possible solution? Either pay huge and get actual quality or go for bargains, hope it works. If reports are true, Pool is looking after Werner who might cost only 40m, yet we will end up with someone crappier and pay more.

Funny we have the same thing in my country but the saying is about wolf, not goat

Icardi for me is the most overrated striker along with Lukaku. If he is the best out there, than the strikers are realy poor nowdays. He isnt bad or anything, but far from a complete or great striker. Serie a suits him perfectly because he isnt fast and pace of the league hides that flaw. He is also positionaly great and has top finish, probably best in football right now, but he isnt great anywhere else. For Pl he just isnt dynamic enough and if we paid 110m it could be another flop. Nothing like Morata though because it would be more case of not suiting the league rather being bad player. Werner is miles faster. His finishing isnt great, but still good. Dont start on consistency here please, because Suarez or Cavani arent consistent finishers either, but they get into so many chances, they still end up with lot of goals. Icardi is better finisher than all, but hardly better striker. In what sense superb with the ball? As in running in space and positioning? Indeed. But when we talk about link up and hold up, creating chances, he isnt all that much. If Icardi doesnt score, he has often quiet game. Suarez or Aguero are miles ahead in overall game. I dont watch every inter game, but quite many of them because of Handanovic and while Icardi did improve, he doesnt give the impression of complete striker.

Loads of options indeed, but with Cesc leaving we wont have Jorginho backup and overall neither of our midfielders can shoot or be very creative which could be a problem in the future.

Werner over Icardi any day. Not that either is ideal, but Werner's pace and finishing ability along with lot of potential suits us much more than Icardi who is quite slow and more of a poacher. Jovic though would be probably most realistic. He looks like young Suarez and isnt super expensive.

The worrying thing is that if there will be another Aguero, we wont be anywhere near. Too expensive, too much competition etc. 1st tier established players and talents are out of our hand.

Absolutely. Marina is just making us into franchise. Pulisic getting them millions of fans in usa and us having record revenues every season is her dream. United has a cuckoo in Woodward too, they havent been doing well either. Liverpool and city brought some brain from germany and spain which did wonders to them.

I replied to you in another thread on this. But yeah completely agree it will not be a quick process. However we did play much better two months ago, the way we should be playing. Dont even mind we won 12 straight or so. Point is our football was actualy very enjoyable to watch. Now its pure boredom even if we manage to win 1:0 or 2:1. What happend? We didnt have injuries. It couldnt be fatigue because it started in october. Hazard was absolutely on fire prior and he isnt that great since october. Jorginho was also much more influental first months compared to now.

Yup, I said before Im willing to stick with Sarri but so far its just not working. Jorginho would be victim of circumstances if he was dropped, but the real culprits would be board and Sarri. Either we should continue Conte football and bring 1,2 players or get Sarri that would require 6 new players. Now we play Sarriball, but without proper players. We need to get players that fit this style or drop Jorginho, Sarriball and do the best we can with current lot. With Sarri or without. That said Sarriball would always take at least two seasons to make some noise. But the current state is beyond worrying. I expected we will have problems with results, but play wise I thought our attack will be way more fluid and our defense full of holes. Similar to Klopp in Pool. That way you can work things out eventually. With us however, there are so many problems that its hard to see benefits of Sarriball at all. Bottom line, even when Klopp had shit defense and kept losing, their team was showing promise when they pushed forward. Entertaining football. What do we have? Possession on possession with zero creativity and end product. Its like the worst possible football style. Even gold Mourinho or Conte ball was more interesting because oppont obliterated us, but we survived and won. And the worst part is that we actualy played well in august and september. With the very same players. So its not just down to bringing new lb or striker. Why? IMO Jorginho isnt as influental, Hazard is not as good and Sarri doesnt rotate one bit.

Tbh regarding tonight, even a good striker isnt a solution IMO. We were jerking the ball for 90min and created almost nothing. We are slow and uncreative. Static and have no dynamic. Yeah it might be 1:0 with better striker but honestly who would want to watch this boring football week in week out? Sarri was brought to make us more attractive. For months, even when we do win, we play realy bad for most games.

Change of tactics or formation etc. If we dont have the players, we have to adapt. Azpi, Kante, Alonso etc all look much worse compared to last season. All due to this new Sarriball that isnt even working. I would gladly drop Alonso, but right now it wont happen. Conte had limited squad and he made changes that won us the title. Its absolutely pointless to accomodate whole team just so that one player (Jorginho) plays his role, even if he is doing well. Im not saying we should just instantly drop him or whatever, but longterm if this isnt working whats the point? At the end I dont care if we play possession football or more defensive. As long there is visible progress and it suits the players we have. Right now sarriball looks extremely forced. Kante out of his place, Azpi and Alonso who are nowhere near good in attack for Sarriball. Hazard in false 9 role etc. If the board saw it right to spend 60m on Jorginho, they better be prepared to support Sarri with new LB and striker that fits this system. Otherwise it makes no sense.

Didnt say he is or isnt worthy. Just pointed out he wont be anywhere near 30 goals in this season. And goals are not always everything. Morata was decent scorer in season prior to joining us. You just cant predict that because player x scores y goals, he will score y goals in different team in different league. Even less if you predict that after half a season. There could be injuries, drop of form etc.

Yes but it makes no point in playing Jorginho if rest of the team cant do shit in Sarriball. Either bring new players/make some rotations or drop Jorginho/ play Kante next to him.

Where did you find those numbers? Sarabia is on 6 goals and 6 assists in laliga so far. Wont get near 30.

Exactly. Like Tomo said Jorginho is doing his job. But what good is it of we do f*ck all with such style of football.

Well he is there just so we can rotate the ball and keep possesion. When in reality he should be here to allow us play football to a point that can help us win games. What is the point of playing possession football if the result is no wins, no chances, no goals and players playing out of position? He was brought to improve us. To help Sarri play his football. But right now, all we have is more problems than solutions. We shifted Kante to side too. You better be fucking great to justify changes like that. We are just playing posseesion football for the sake of playing possession football. What we have to do is adress the problems, accommodate playing style to the players in the squad and bring some reinforcements to complement the team. Not shift everyone out of their ideal position and regress even further. Our goal is to win games and score goals. Not possession and passing. Sure it should go hand in hand, but its clearly not. And if the board was so hell bent on getting Jorginho because he is "crucial" to Sarri system, well so are the fullbacks, striker and wingers. You cant play Sarriball with Alonso. Or Willian. Or Morata. But hey striker isnt important right now. As long as we paid 60m on midfielder who is crucial to this system that is clearly not working for months.

Apparently Serie a is super tactical and all. But they didnt figure out Jorginho in five seasons. He comes to england and every manager knows how to shut him down in 3 months. Sarri is doing one big mistake here if he doesnt fix Jorginho and still play him.

If we had high scoring games and not win, I wouldnt be that dissapointed. But these 0:0, 1:0, 2:1 games where we are scrapping for that one goal, but cant do shit are beyond boring. Are we playing attacking football or what? Just keep the possession isnt enough and Sarri wasnt brought for that. Where is player freedom in attack? Where is the joy? Where are team work and one twos between players? This shit looks so forced, there is zero chemistry. No runs, no connection between players. No plan. Nothing. We cant create shit. There are 11 individuals on the pitch, but unlike in the past, no one wants to take responsibility and win us the game. We are so boring ffs. I would rather lose this game if we actualy played some promising football. But week in week out, same old shit. Grinding for that one goal whole game without any offensive plan. Just ball rotation and possession. Barkley is average. Alonso, Willian and Morata are absolute shite. Azpi, Kante and Jorginho are massively underpeforming. Hazard lost his magic. Everyone is on low confidence and yet absolutely nothing changes. Month from now, it will be the same old.

Hmm I think thats the last thing they are upset about. At least what I read. In fact, the biggest advantage is that he is from USA, so we can get alot of marketing publicity and fans because of that. The negativity comes from factors like he doesnt play much and when he does, he doesnt perform that great. He cost 65m and comes only in summer. Needs much more development when we need a starter etc. Also him being american created big hype. Probably bigger than how promising he actualy is.

80% of the things our marvellous board does, turns into shit. So if we actualy sell CHO and bring Pulisic, you can bet your ass that in 5 years, CHO will be superstar and Pulisic play somewhere in China.

He dribbles and then nothing. There is alot of development that he needs. Sure he might be superstar one day. There is no denying he has the talent. BUT is he realy going to get those chances here? We truly suck with youth and as soon he doesnt perform to expectations, there will be pressure. The club isnt patient and they will not let him develop in peace. IMO we need already established player, someone who is ready to jump to bigger club, like Hazard was in 2012. If we get starter AND Pulisic, then it would make sense. But there is also CHO. Why the hell not just develop CHO instead of Pulisic? Here comes the idiotic board again with their stupid ideas and then they fuck it all up. Kdb and Salah doing wonders while we favoured Willian and Oscar.

Salah, Mane and Firmino have not been around together that long, but they are absolutely fantastic. The way they link up, move positions and work in defence is brilliant. They are so easy going, but efficient, its scary. VVD is there since january and after couple weeks he became rock solid and made their defence 3 times better. They realy hit the jackpot with their recent signings. But the real reason is Klopp who is managing them absolutely perfectly. Take a look how he handled Fabinho. Utter bad in first games, so he simply benched him not to lose confidence, but didnt give up on him and worked him in training. Since december, he is realy improving. Compare that to how we handled Bakayoko. They are 9 points clear and they have been playing Henderson, Wijnaldum and Milner in midfield. Credit where its due.

The moment Poch starts talking about title, they go on and lose 3:1 well done yids

7 league games without a goal...Higuain fits us like a glove

J Cole is returning in coaching role in 2019.