BlueLyon

Thats bad for both sides then if he doesnt want to move back...Wenger will again use him in wrong way, beside I think Vela was tailor fit for Laliga, unless arsenal use him as striker, he will have competition with Ox/Walcott and Im sure one will want to leave...

Great. Soon we will have enough deep playmakers to create a monopol over market it seems...

Rakitic to barca now clearly a done deal, yet no news about Cesc to Chelsea...it appears media is clueless as shit. I doubt this two deals are connected in way; as soon Rakitic goes, Cesc will go too... Im sure that Cesc deal to chelsea wont be done for a while because Barca will look for more offers...regardless of Rakitic. And media saying; it will be official on tuesday, then on tuesday they say it will be on friday...and that can go for another month or so. Just writing bs so that people buy it.

Well if they will want to move (Cazorla, Negredo,...), then money wont be a problem. Btw is Vela to Arsenal official? I know he said not long ago he doesnt want to return and recently that Atletico sent him offer he can not refuse.

I think Atletico wont be that bad next year...yeah they will lose Diego, Diego Costa, Villa, Filipe Luis, Tiago and Courtois; maybe even more, but they are also heavy linked with Cazorla, Vela, Siqueira, Negredo,...Im sure they will spend most of their money earned on new players like they did with Falcao, after selling Aguero back then. And now they will have plenty of money from sales, la liga win and CL final. Plus tv rights etc...they will have lot of money IMO.

I would understand PL loan, but why Koln?

This guy is extremely marketable...appearing in every commercial hah. He was realy a big public figure of Chelsea club...we will have to find new one. However I was thinking...IF brazil wins cup, with Luiz playing big role, Im sure Mou was one who couldnt fit Luiz in team and not Luiz who couldnt upgrade his game. If he can play on top level with brazil (they play similar football to us; counter attacks with lot of defending), I dont see how he couldnt perform here...and Mou didnt manage to make Luiz play best.

We lost Robinho back then, but we didt have Jose as manager. Im sure Mou wont allow something like this to happen with cesc.

I was just wondering...Oscar alrady has plenty of work in defense, even with Ramires and Matic. Now remove Rambo and put Cesc in, that means even more work in midfield for Oscar...and less freedom. I just dont think Cesc-Matic will be that succesful. Yes its great for smaller teams as plan b to break defences, but Cesc is far from Modric, Gundogan, Pogba, Rakitic work-wise. Those guys work lot and run lot, Cesc is brilliant individual but he doesnt add much to team as whole. Similar to Mata. I hope Im wrong because for 27m its worth a try, and might work brilliant but I dont think he fits into Mou tactical plan.

I dont think he will flop, but I wont get too excited over any striker we buy again until he performs well for us. The past few years we had many striker issues its almost unbelievable, apart from Drogba and Anelka...

I always knew that the penguins fly too

I dont even want to think what would happen if he flops. That would be disaster.

Oscar wasnt anything special back then at confed cup...WC will be even bigger test. Im sure he is taking friendlies careful, similar to Hazard and both will show best in WC. However if he gets average performances and Brazil dont win cup or get realy close, he will be axed from first 11 IMO. At least for some time until he proves he is good enough. This guy is one big mistery and lets hope he finds his form back, would be sad to see another talent leaving club after such promise.

If we do buy another striker along Costa, it means Lukaku is off. And with money from Lukaku sale, I would rather buy Benzema, not Mando. If the rumours about Suarez to rm are true, maybe Benzema will be sold.

Whats your point anyway? Just trying to counter my opinions or what...Lukaku never got proper chance here yet and you can make another 100 claps while responding to my comments, thats fact.

At age 21, Drogba probably didnt even play football Never say things that are this far in future. I agree though if Jose doesnt like him, no point keeping him. But I feel Lukaku sale would be even more stupid than Sturridge one. Board and coaches just never learn that one. We have these problems with strikers, we buy ones that turn shit, while ironicaly we sell those who are good, because board lacks trust and patience.

Uhm okay...so you say Lukaku got a proper chance at Chelsea? Just like Sturridge right? You do know strikers, unexperienced, at age 21 need around 10-15 straight games to say atleast and full support from manager no matter what. But hey, those three games with ton of pressure from Mou, were more than enough for Lukaku right? All strikers go through rough pattern and not scoring in 4/5 consecutive games, even best ones like Rvp, Falcao, Costa, Cavani,...Lukaku had bad start, but surprise surprise he actualy played good for Everton after he was given regular football. As I have feeling you dont believe in Lukaku too much, I will be happy when he proves you how wrong you were, either here or anywhere else.

On Tuesday, Chelsea will announce the signings of Costa, Cesc Fabregas, Luis, Koke, Tiago, Courtois (duh), LeBron James and Messi who will be directly loaned to Vitesse, sources claim. Media these days...

I said he couldnt help win any titles, but it was transition season and we didnt plan to get trophies. And even with Etoo we still didnt get trophies...

Funny how Iva is only cfc player in best 11, and also one everyone wants to replace with Filipe Luis. Either I dont see how good realy Iva is or those in Uefa are blind. He should either play CB next year or be a sub. As much he is good in defence, he is bad in attack.

Every player will generaly have better stats when playing further up the pitch. But oftenly, stats are not best for midfielders. Mata had great ones, but he was useless of the ball. While Modric stats are average, he does superb job in midfield. I find Cesc better in deeper position rather than #10, however he is not typical player to play in pivot. 4:3:3 suits him best and if Cesc-Matic-Oscar wont be too weak and lack speed, it will be world class. Just to be on safe, side, we should have fourth CM, a power DM ala Gustavo, Gueye, Carvalho, Pogba,...someone who would offer different tactics for big games where cesc, oscar and Matic wouldnt be enough mobile.

We still have Torres to do that job though

Its normal on this forum, either we overrate or underrate things. When someone pulls good game, he is better than Messi, if someone says he wants to leave the club he is overrated and average...It seems peoples striker expectations are unreal, they want instant success even if from someone who is just 21. Right now, after all the Lukaku comments, it looks people saying he is average and overrated, but in few months when he puts good WC performances he will be like god. And if he will be sold and succeed elsewhere, people will say they always knew Lukaku is special and stuff like that. We have Lukaku now, he is raw and unwanted, once we will sell him. he will start scoring goals and everyone will regret selling him. It never learns us. If we sell him, I hope there will be chance he comes back eventualy becuse kid will be on top in few years. I dunno what he had with Jose, but things must clear and it will be crime if Jose wouldnt offer him at least second choice striker spot behind Costa.

I think we fucked with Torres twice. First when we bought him and second when we kept him for this long. Im sure even if Costa wont be as good, the disaster wont be as bad as was with Torres.

But can he do it for Chelsea?