BlueLyon

I would wait three more games before being certain that players were playing intentionaly bad under Jose and are now alot better without him. Today it was seen what I havent seen this season, at least not in PL yet (in CL there were good games too), the desire, the speed of play, team work etc. But its only sunderland dont forget that.

Why Simeone? I like him as a manager, but he isnt exactly attacking type. One of the major things that bothered 90% of this forum was that Mourinho was too defensive and gave no freedom to players now you all want Simeone? Grass is always greener just get new coach for the sake right? Regarding the topic in ideal world I would take Ancelotti as first choice then Pep or Klopp.

I get you but how do you actualy know if Hazard or Matic dont give shit about club? Im pretty sure they like it even so because they extended their contracts...not liking Jose and playing bad to get him sacked doesnt mean they dont like the club. But I realy dont want to go behind that because not you or me know the story behind the scenes. And surely we cant just replace whole squad because of this ffs How about AVB and revolt back then? Same Drogba and Lamps and Terry were leading that. Playing bad to get him sacked and then we win CL. Its the SAME situation as is now. Then those players were spineless too or what? The only difference is that this time Mou is the manager who got the stick and fans have emotions toward him. You and me, fans, WE have feelings for Mou, but bottom line is this Hazard, Costa against Mou is no different than Terry and Drogba against Avb. Both played bad, both wanted manager gone. Thats it. And while loyalty is one thing, staying behind the coach and all, its pretty clear Mou methods were questionable. His training was certainly exhausting for players, not to mention his preferences for certain players, no different tacitcs, terrible attacking plan and not giving youth any real chance at all. Players had fair reason for looking in different way. Sure they could just leave themselves but maybe they want to stay at Chelsea with a different manager. And while players didnt do well, boing them NOW is not gonna solve the problem. If you want them to love to play for us then cheer them through good and bad and they might give it back with their loyalty. As of now no one left because he didnt like chelsea. When or if they do, we will find the replacements. But I wouldnt be pushing them out of door. After all they wanted Mou out and if they perform from now on, stay here when we are 16th and bring Chelsea good times back then no one should blame them for not being loyal.

Dp

DP

What point do you actualy want to prove? Its clear players and Mou werent in same direction. Why no one will know. Mou is now gone, we won today and players turned up. Might well now have a chance to win something and if lucky get to top 4 because we have a chance. I dont understand do you people want whole squad out or what?? Calling them cunts and booing without any evidence. I dont like what they did but they also brought us the title last year. Same Hazard and Costa many people call cunt and boo nowdays. I hope people support the club, the management and players no matter what. Because booing them will further kill their wish to play for us. And i for one dont want our best players to leave the club because right now we dont have buying power and you guys are kidding only yourselves if you want players like Hazard out just because they dont like Mou or dont play well this season. End of the day he and others are still top top players.

I feel like 90% people doesnt have a clue. From media to fans yet they make all this asumptions that make everyone toxic from management to players and that reflects chelsea public picture in all wrong directions... End of the day you people support chelsea fc. It would be nice to just focus on football and not talk about who is bigger cunt than other without actual evidence. At least Im gonna do it because it makes no point pointing at any player or Mourinho when I dont know the real story.

This forum and fans in general are so fickle...just because media spreads some bullshit stories about Cesc or Hazard or Costa, the fans imediately jump on them as if there was clear evidence they are rats or whatever. Whole team from Ivanovic to Matic to Hazard to Costa deliberately played worse than they can and its pretty much clear. But to throw shit at some of our players more than at others is just patethic. Im not a fan of Cesc for footballing reasons, but as long there will be no evidence I wouldnt throw shit at anyone. Not at Eden, not at Cesc, not at Costa. Either boo all of them for underperforming or find some evidence ffs.

While Im happy with the win, its pretty clear players were playing bad on purpose. Its only sunderland, but you could see in every individual how much they changed. That goes to a point that these same players would get chelsea relegated to get Mou sacked or what? What kind of attitude is that? Im happy with a win but Im realy questioning our squad and their attitude. Majority seems like proper cunts. But in the end, won and thats all that matters. But the players can now expect the same treatment from the fans like they gave to Chelsea. Lots of booes and doubts before they will redeem themselves.

I dont know why are people point to 2009. Yes we were good then under Guus but its 2015 now. In first time, Mou kept unbeaten record at home at SB too. Look at his second time... Its new age now' hopefuly Guus will make Chelsea as best possible. Good luck.

Didi Drogbaaaa

The umbrella is usual. This guy is going places

Kudos to that guy behind for coming to london in flippers in middle of december...

That is only in our eyes...in the end both arw just players and managers. Simple.

I know but as I remember the whole real squad thanked Ancelotti in summer...think if the players were in such great relationship as they were saying in media then they would definately say something regarding this in public too, like Azpi did. But then again they aint as big divas as madrid players indeed and might just do it privately (or not at all because Im positive the relaions werent as bright as they made it look like, that was impossible by seeing what was going on on the pitch)

Bar Azpi, did anyone else thanked Mou yet? Says alot about the whole thing realy...

I feel sad he was sacked for all he gave to us, but this season was truly dissapointing and it had to be done. I just hope the players turn up with the next manager because if they dont, we will be in serious serious trouble. On the other hand, Jose and Chelsea what a complicated relationship. It just cant get a happy ending can it...

Then he better start doing and not just talking. He didnt have one good big game in chelsea career bar vs arsenal and you can count on one hand the big games where he actualy dominated and played his game. I just find it ridiculous for someone to talk this kind of stuff to others (even if he criticizes himself too), while he himself never had top game against big opponent. But for a fact Cesc in prime couldnt put it in big game, I dont expect him to that in his worst time of career.

If anyone we should bring Carlo. Or just stick with Mou till the end of season. He is doing bad and his methods are bad from youth to team selection, but that said, there are no other managers available and at least I still believe we can go far in CL with Mou. But if Carlo is possible I would seriously consider it. Hopefuly the board does the right thing, because unlike us they know exactly what is going behind the scenes.

You just know that once or if he leaves us for real barca or psg, he will shut down moaners by a mile to a point they will never come back. He is going through a rough patch but I realy cant blame him. One of few players who performed regulary for so long that half a season wont change my opinion on him just yet. He might not be a leader yet but he is a top top player and considering what is going on at club he deserves criticism but by far he is not the only one. I get you he dissapointed this season but come on. One of few attackers that dont go down after every touch. Every time he played he tried. He is out of form and confidence, but he tried. Last season he extended contract wishing to stay here for long time. If he actualy wants to leave now, I dont blame him considering how bad is Mou doing this season.

Gary Neville is amazing lad, but if he did that I would be forever grateful to him. Regardless of this story, as a pundit he was one of best if not best I saw. Not biased, smart and clever, you rarely see all that in one pundit today.

Right now we are in perfect situation to give Kenedy or RLC (two unknown and cheap; RLC even being academy player) a chance, but hey they dont get it. IMO the problem is not in the board to find such player, its in management team that knows two fucks about how to give those guys a chance. Even a talent like Mahrez would turn into flop here because at best he would play in odd game here and there and regardless of display would be benched the next 10 games. KDB was THE gem we had (despite he didnt fit into Mou plan, he is still a top talent) and we didnt do anything. Wasnt even given a chance. I get what you mean, but even if we had the best scouting team in the world, Mourinho and Co would find a way to ruin every player they get hands on (or 9 out of 10 at least). Talents wont just turn brilliant as soon they come here. They will need positive enviroment with coach that trusts them which gives confidence and play time. Sadly they would get ''show us what you have in 5min'' treatment and even if they do good, some underperforming ''star'' player would still play ahead of them.

Anyone knows more about Paulo Oliveira from Sporting? Is he any good?

Mahrez would probably turn into Salah here. The main reason he is doing well is because he has confidence, trust from coach and brilliant hard working TEAM. He would have nothing of that here. Thing is, even Djilobodji if signed by Leicester instead of us, might become one of better CBs in PL. But since he is here, he doesnt even get a chance to show it (not saying he would if he got the chance, but you know there is a chance) Salah, KDB, Lukaku, Cuadrado and bunch of others are doing just fine elsewhere, it doesnt matter if we have top talent or not, we simply dont have the board that would transform them into good players.

Winning the league one season, battling relegation in another, being a chelsea fan is probably one of interesting things out there. Absolutely everything is possible, we could win CL and go in championship by current looks. Bottom line, its all about football. As long we play good football and have players who are proud to wear the shirt (right now Im dubious on both), I cant complain. Trophies are just a bonus. Sure I dont want us to get relegated, that would be realy sad, but maybe we simply need a kick in the ass. Our youth is good but we work with them like robots. We dont give them real chance. Our football is kinda boring for a while now too. Maybe we need to start from zero, however I fear the consequences if we actualy get relegated. Who of our team would be ready to stay and who not...