BlueLyon

I think he should stay in Monaco for at least another year, but he sure shows unbelievable performances on highest level already. We have seen plenty of overhyped players, but I have a feeling Mbappe could be like Kluivert who also started as teenager and become world star. If we sell Costa, IMO we should target this kid over anyone else.

We knew what we were buying from the start. He was always this kind of character. And I dont remember strongly opposing the buy and advising to sell him when he was banging them goals. Yes there were few members who disliked his character and advised to be eventualy sold, but that was a few. Now its the majority. How can you say it has nothing to do with form when its the only thing different than couple months ago. He was always like that, unstable and agressive, but he scored goals. Bar few no one wanted him gone. This thread turned against him in majority twice. First when those rumours about china came when neither realy knows the truth and secondly when his form dropped. Before that when he was scoring in almost every match and performed brilliantly, no one wanted to sell him bar 2 or 3 people. Two years ago, he was just like this. But he was scoring which is the difference. Dont say its got nothing with form. It got everything with form. If he turns up in style, people wont care if he is a dick, like they didnt before. As for Torres comparison again, people sing Costa chants most as he is a cult hero here. Torres got nothing on him compared to that. "Put scoring abilty aside what does he contribute". Realy? Costa is a striker lol. His main thing is to score goals and he scored like 40 in 75 games before this slump of form. Here we go again, lets buy a striker who is good with ball, doesnt matter if he scores or not, as long he wont fuck up the attacks...There is Morata, a nearly perfect striker with ball control, but people will be like "he doesnt score enough". Costa admited he wanted to join Atletico in summer. Yet he performed brilliantly after that. This china thing is the same. Costa goes down every season in second half. Instead of getting a first choice striker to replace Costa, my question here is why we dont have a good enough backup that would be able to replace Diego when is plays so shit.

Its the feeling because of past two months. Before february I would pick Costa anyday. Lukaku will first have to play for bigger club and then see if he can lead the team like Costa did. I agree we should be considering selling Costa only because he is unstable, not because of his skill. But who is there available that is better than Costa at his best?

I just think people should calm down and look at whole thing from bigger perspective. Form goes up and down. A player who is shit now can be great later, and vice versa. Seen with Eden, seen with many other players. Costa is like I said in awful form, and its terrible to watch him like that. He destroys most of our attacks. But compare him to Torres is a joke, still. Torres was bang average every season. Costa might be shit for two months, but that doesnt change the fact he is big big reason for almost two PL titles in 3 years. I only mentioned burnemouth game because people said he doesnt contribute anything at all. Sure I want him to show more than just winning a free kick. But he has been one of top 5 players this season too. Thats why I think all this talk of him being sold and being disrespected is nonsense. Because he might stay here and come back with a bang again, who knows. He certainly has the quality. He is questionable character, a very unstable player and again I agreed for our club longterm, getting someone more stable would be good. All that said, he might not like life in london and will leave. That means we will need to find a replacement. Now hear this out, people talk of Lukaku and others, saying that when they are at their worst they still contribute more than Costa. A shit Lukaku is better than shit Costa. Then some come up with consistency? Well, Defoe is more consistent than Costa, doesnt mean we should be signing him. But is that realy what we want? That is as idiotic as it gets. We should target a striker that at his best is better than Costa is at his best. Now have a good luck finding that striker that might join us this summer. After all Costa is still a character and leader in a way that we as fans dont see. Sure we can sell Costa. And whoever we sign wont be that crap Costa is right now. But the real question is can he be as good as pre january Costa? My friend Belotti and Lukaku can score 40 goals, that means fuckall compared to fact that Costa was our best player in a Chelsea shirt. Bottom line, I dont disagree Costa should be sold in summer, but he should be shown more respect and everyone with too much Fifa on their hand expecting Lukaku or whoever to be our perfect striker are in for a surprise. Real football is not all black and white.

Lukaku is so good he goes in hiding against every better team out of respect, because otherwise it wouldnt be fair. Everyone who wants Costa out, at least target players who are better, in which case Lukaku is simply not.

In one of my previous posts I said that if he wants to leave, then so be it. Like you I dont know what is going behind the scenes. Im not saying he is happy here or china offer never came etc. He is that type of player that goes missing in second half. That doesnt mean its ok to play bad tho. He is just as gulity for poor games and deserves the criticism, I never said he doesnt. What goes on my nerves is people without any proof already throwing him to the gallows. And want him sold after two bad months. And if he stays, same people will praise him when he does well again. Thats all. How does he not contribute to the game tho? Against bournemouth he was involved in two goals still. As for pre january form, who would give us more points? Costa wasnt just decent, but world class till january. Only other two strikers Suarez and Lewa were as good. There were people saying constructive critics that he should be sold because long term it could be better for us. But then you have 2 pages per day of rubbish comments talking of Costa like he NEVER played good for us, treating him like garbage. That shit gets on my nerves. Onform he was best possible striker we could have for three years now. Yet people see only negative stuff.

Offcourse I read the thread? Every second comment including yours is that he is (in other words) shit and people want him out. You called him worse than Torres and I believe you want him out too, or am I wrong. Thats literaly saying he is shit and thats why you want him out. Please dont say its because his attitude, his ball skills. They were the same always. The only difference is he scored goals and now he is not. Most of people were praising him even tho they knew who he is back in december. There were maybe two or three that wanted him out because we need to look longterm. Now you have a bunch of people who want him out. The difference? He is in poor form. People want Costa out because he has been poor for past few weeks. And they believe he is poor because china messed his head. So that is reasonable excuse for talking shit of him? I can create a story about Azpi that he wants to join friend Cech at Arsenal, completely made up story, but if every media started reporting it, I bet my ass people here would be calling him out. Funny we have a bunch of people who know Costa so well personaly, because surely people dont say that based on what media says these days, right? Just saying last year Eden was poor, there were dozen of pages calling him rat, wanting him out because he was "shit". Because media said so. Same is going with Costa. He always performed worse in second half of season. I remember under Mou title season, we were barely grinding those games mostly because of Eden. Costa wasnt that great either as he was in first half. Like this season. Yet, it took half of season and Costa like two years ago, he brought us so many points this year that we are on verge of another title. You can say it is team work and it is, but you are kidding yourself if you dont admit it was Costa who was by a mile the best player till january. I dont say you are pro good players and anti bad form players, but in this case Torres comparisson was certainly rubbish and you just went "wrong way". Unless like I said if you were joking. Because saying Costa is worse than Torres with a serious face, man thats just retarded. I had similar discussion with Special Juan last year about Hazard and I dont want to continue this discussion, because I have nothing against you, but defending Costa on this thread against 15 members trashing him daily because of china move and bad form, its pointless. People just never learn.

He is in good form these days, like King for Bournemouth. Otherways, both had poor end product. But lets say we buy Redmond, you know Conte will play him once every full moon. His confidence goes down and there is that. Besides if we buy new RW, we still have Pedro and/or Willian and both are better than Redmond. Sure if you just want him to rack english players and he would be content with being 3rd or 4th choice winger. IMO as much I would appreicate english players, maybe Ox the most, but we are better off going after some foreign, experienced players who can make impact, rather talents who lose all confidence before the d-day comes.

One thing I dont like is that sometimes he is very active, screaming and managing like mad on the side, but then is some games like today, he just stands there, watching us getting overrun and beaten, and do nothing. Like he knew before the match we will lose and wont give a shit.

I hope guys with comments like you take this as a bit of a joke. Or you are being that type of person who when someone does well, you lick their ass and when they do bad, you talk all possible shit about him. If Costa isnt happy here, sure sell him. But saying he should be sold because he is crap is arguably one of most idiotic things you can read here. Much like everyone was liking Mou ass when he was here (except towards the end when we had crap results), when chelsea played bunker for ages and people loved it, now suddenly he is at united and the SAME people talk shit about him for same things they praised him when he was a blue. Ridiculous thinking. The bottom line, people on this forum, sorry including some mods love the players and managers when we win things. The moment we dont or when they play bad, you throw absolutely everything at them. Where is respect? Where is sense of adulthood where nothing is as black and white as people make it seem here? Hazard played bad, but he was "marked'. Costa played bad because he is shit? Wait, he is marked with two players every game. Sure he fucks up some actions, but makes up with freekicks etc. He is in shit form, but if teams sold players based on two shit months, lol that would be funny. SAME was said about Eden last year. Yet people never learn. I would expect kids to talk shit in this thread, but not adults. Because everyone who watches football for longer time and in this case is true chelsea fan, will not want Diego out after two shit months. Period. Never mind talk all kind of crap after all the games Diego won us. You guys are sometimes unbelievable. I would love to see comments if Diego stays and goes back to his best next season. Im sure same people who today forget what Diego did for us, will forget they talked shit about him. I would copypaste the damn thread and show it everytime that same person would start licking their ass after all the insults this season. Article by bluelion who definately wasnt joking show everything about the respect we have for the players. Unless he knows personaly that Diego wanted to china, and he is playing intentionaly crap(then all this would be different) but i think he doesnt. Media throws some shit on the wall, sheeps buy it. Unfortunely Costa is playing bad and fans take all the blame on him. Mind you that except for Eden there was no one who did well consistently in past months. Kante had very bad games, Luiz had them, Cahill had them, Pedro had them, never mind Matic. Tibo and Azpi were good enough tho. Critic is all welcome, but sell him because he is crap, compare him to torres and other nonsense shows the quality of fans. Remember that true strenght shows when you are down, not when you are on top. Same goes for football fans. Sorry for long post, but shit like after whole team did fuck all today boiled my blood.

We were awful. Pointless to blame ref or Costa only because whole team was utter shit today. No fight, no composure, nothing. Its easy to talk after game, but Conte messed it up today. Ridiculous lineup and constant changes of it during game, when we needed some stability. It seems that just one player missing makes our team painfuly average. And I wonder what will happen next year then. If we bottle the title, and with games like this we will, meh its just madness. We had quite a few blackouts like today this season, so we need to figure that shit out. Are we a Chelsea 4:0 United team or United 2:0 Chelsea team more. Because the more it looks we are hanging on that 13 game unbeaten run where we overchieved, rather that being our standard. Since january, we were painfuly poor in many games despite win, nevermind we concede goal every game nowdays. The bench is totaly useles because Conte is not playing them. Still the games ahead, we should win if we get our shit together. But we made the job hella lot harder. That said, the current table is alot more realistic than one with 10points advantage, because we arent that great yet. We usualy do it well against smaller sides, but bigger ones, its hard to tell, so the real question is what will Conte do next year in CL because 3 man defence has no place there. Next week spurs, fuck hopefuly we have no injuries.

The fuck is this formation?

We play like crap. Nothing else to say.

But maybe he could be very good wingback. Anyway with Alonso and someone like Alba, we would have two different options, plus IMO Eden would benefit alot playing with someone like Alba, who IMO is quite good in attack.

Is De Gea out aswell?

I think Alaba is absolutely impossible, but Alba might be a chance. I see plenty of rumours that Barca is willing to let Alba go. Considering their terrible buy-sell policy in recent years, I think it could be possible.

Once Ronaldo was to leave RM, I think Eden would fit their team absolutely perfect. True they would need better striker too because CR is scoring alot of goals, but the way Real plays these days, Eden would put his play 2 gears up. Him and Marcelo would be unbelievable. A tiny bit of me would love to see Eden reach next potential, because he would undoubtedly do that in RM with their players. But that said I hope he never leaves. I always loved watching Lamps, Drogba,...and in my eyes they are still far greater players for Chelsea than Eden, but Eden is without a doubt our best pure football player we ever had. Maybe Zola is close second. Its joy watching him truly and if we manage to keep him for rest of his career, he will settle down as our greatest player for sure. We need to keep him at all costs.

If Costa stays (hopefuly) my choice for backup striker would be Morata without a doubt. He would be expensive, but we would sell Bats who Conte obviously doesnt trust. CM, wingback or two and RW are priorities tho.

Because three things 1.) We dont have youth/players with national identity. Bayern, Real, Barca etc have players like Nacho, Kimmich...who are either a product of youth or players who identify with club. They are either super talented players ready to be on bench because they dreamed of playing for this club or they are youth products who are very reliable when called. And very loyal. We dont have such players. Actualy we do, but we dont trust them. Last season was a shit seaso and we could easily play RLC for remaining of season. Easily. Everyone was so bad, we werent in any race for trophy and should play RLC and Kenedy. But we didnt, because SHORT SIGHT. Hiddink was "cowardly" enough to inisist on Iva, Matic etc because they are safe options, to show he is doing good job, when in reality he should show some balls, realize we need to build for future and throw kids in fire, even if we lost even more games. At least they would gain experience. Usualy in title chasing seasons we cant do it, but last season was crap, no excuse and we still didnt give them a fucking chance. 2.) We make wrong purchases/lack of faith in them We paid 35m for Bats and we dont even use him. What else is there to say? For that money we could definately get someone at least good enough to replace Costa if needed. 3.) We are not as attractive club for better players Bayern has Costa, Boateng, Muller,...on bench and they are happy. Same for Real with Isco, Morata,... And even so Bayern was poor today because Lewa and Hummels didnt start. Very poor. You cant say they are equaly good. You are wrong about Barca and Juve. Both have very average bench too, no better than ours. If Msn is out, who they play? Arda or Rafinha? Neither is better than Willian or Pedro. Iniesta replacement is Gomes who is garbage. They dont even have proper RB. Juve without Dybala is much lesser team. They dont have quality replacement for him. If we pay 80m for Silva or Mbappe, they will be starters. They would be in any team. Sure if they underperform they would get dropped like Torres, James did. The problem is that we need a very strong bench. But we cant bring top players there because they wont join to sit. We cant bring top talents either because they will be useless because we dont have any faith. We cant bring there any youth for same reason. And we cant bring there any "utility" players; those who are not realy top, but would give 110% for club to help, because we are not big insitution. ---- Bottom line the best we can do, is bring some new players for our first 11 and KEEP our current players like Matic, Cesc, Pedro, Willian,...and obviously rotate enough so everyone has their play time. But you have to know one thing. What you talk about is team chemistry. Real can throw Nacho, Asensio,...whoever and they will perform because atm they are well drilled unit. Bayern, Juve are not as drilled, but close. Barca is far from it. One missing player and they play like crap. Last year we couldnt play well with our strongest 11. Because chemistry was shite. With Conte, we improved it massively. Just trust him. But one thing is certain. We will always be the dogs against Real, Barca, Bayern...they will always dominate. Its our dna to let them play their game and punish them. We will be masters of that if we create top team for such football. But we will also not lose 3:0 4:0 5:0 against them either. Yes we might not play fancy, we might be underdogs, but in the end, we have at least 50% chance to win everytime we will play them. Because we can grind out results. Because they can attack us all night. And we can play as shitty and ugly as possible. But we dont care. We care only about win. We need one shot and we beat them. And they know it. As long our players, whoever plays; give 110% those nights, I dont care about result or about how we play. I dont care if we dont have Galacticos in squad. If we dont have stars on bench. As long we do it our way, the Chelsea way.

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His link up for winger is often quite frustrating, and we hopefuly wouldnt play him as striker. I wouldnt say no for fair price of about up to 50m and thats pushing it, but it realy depends on how much we have left then. The problem is that our main player is Hazard. Our second key player is striker. Be it Costa or whoever else. Because we need someone that can score 20+ goals per season. That means, our RW has to be top top player, but at same time play for others. I think Alexis being a good player is considered a main star player, but we already have that in Eden. Maybe Eden and Alexis could be our Robbery, but who knows. Alexis only played for barca of the very best clubs and there he didnt do particulary well. Maybe he will get it level further under Conte. He has been brilliant for Chile whenever he plays, but with Arsenal, he is that typical Arsenal player. Talent and skill wise, he outgrown Arsenal. But character wise, not so sure. He goes missing when team struggles and he looks like he doesnt give a shit or gets frustrated, after that he plays poorly. Maybe he is upset with Arsenal form, but for a 28 year old and arguably one of top 5 players of season, you expect him to deliver his best week in week out without any bullshit. Payet last season was absolutely unplayable in average West ham squad, there is no excuse for Alexis to throw tantrums and suddenly not give a shit. Bottom line, like I said, Alexis is taking maximum of that striker role. His decisions and passing are not very good for winger, nevermind I dont want any wannabe dribbles and shots from wide areas when he should pass to our striker in the clear.

I wonder why they always pull some turkish, polish,... refs who are quite unknown. Why not go for Proenca, Clattenburg etc. While they arent great, at least they are big names. With refs like today, it almost feels they are picked because no one would give a shit if they never judged again but they would help barca continue for this particular game.

Barca without MSN is nothing but a good team. Two of MSN are in their 30s already. IMO they have so many positions to upgrade and bench, with not much money available. Their era is coming to an end I believe. And as a fan of football, I cant wait for the return of english and italian clubs to the top like they were in the past.

Well if we sign someone as equaly good as him or even better like Dybala, Bernardo,...I wouldnt care less.We will never have all the apples anyway. And while Sanchez is having absolutely brilliant season and would improve City, I dont see him THAT great player to offer twice what he is actualy worth just to have him and not city.

I doubt he would be interested in reading and posting on talk chelsea. Unless we create a dog thread.