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what a pointless poll. anyway, the CWC would give us the tag of "World Champions". That opportunity doesn't come by often

yeah. the hazard incidents are different. his close control is too good. the refs just don't see that. maybe the rreputation we are building for diving is hurting us. last week suarez was taken for a spin by a norwich defender and he didn't get a penalty. classic case of the shepherd crying wolf. we are not as bad as suarez but still ivanovic and luiz made some pretty horrendous dives this year

Well that is just ridiculous but tbf our players dive more than other teams around except maybe liverpool.. ivanovic, luiz, torres have embarassed the club already this year

now a 1-0 win over Shakhtar in 2 weeks will do us just fine. we will top the group and i think juve will do a good job on shakhtar on the last day.

nah. you don't know the situation. it wasn't aired live here so i was watching the repeat at 4 in the morning. at HT i just checked the result and got over it

what a drab match. i stopped watching at HT

probably didn't need to play the wildcard in the end. although, my team ran on Rooney's 14 points

couldn't catch the game

Bale out :lol2:

yep. my confidence just shot up.. i think we'll win comfortably now

what a start to the weekend! thank you Mrs Bale!

yeah, he has that in his locker. He is a good long range passer.

ashley cole has a variety of crosses up his sleeve. plus he shapes his crosses in which is always dangerous. remember arsenal away 2 years ago? 2 goals from low ash cole crosses. last season, i remember sturridge's equaliser at white hart lane crossed by cole and lampard's winner against wolves, crossed by cole. cole is much more intelligent in comparison to ivanovic and that's why he is such an effective crosser. he looks for the cutback as well unlike ivan. this year he hasnt played a lot of crosses though. but he did play 2 beautiful crosses in the game against QPR.

overlooking your outburst, all you are doing is accusing me of assumptions when you are blatantly making assumptions about me making assumpions. let me break it down. firstly i didn't say he lunges in all the time.i said you won't see Cahill doing that. i didn't say that because he dribbled his way out of trouble he won't be taken seriously. those are 2 different points. the only point you made is passion. personality, commitment, ability to inspire are just other phrases you've used and you are overlooking the obvious points here. you can't deny david luiz is goofy. he has admitted it himself. he is not taken seriously simply because he is the joker in the squad. he is a hot head. there are enough examples to say he is a hot head, challenge from the back on rooney at the bridge, clumsy penalties given away to Fulham, QPR, shirt pull as last man on Ba away at Newcastle last season - early in the game and oh yeah, jon walters this year. but he is getting better, admittedly also, on the field of play passion could turn into a negative point. he is often carried away by the situation and gets in the face of the opponents. (against newcastle last season)hardly ideal for a captain. he has to communicate and calm down his team-mates, a job which cahill is more suited to due to his professional nature. also, have you seen luiz interviews? not a captain in the making. Passion is the ONLY plus point to luiz becoming captain. so if u have any other point to add to that, please do.

i am not comparing them as right backs. i am only comparing their crossing

i'm not saying he wont represent in a good way but the fact is luiz is a bit of a hot head. you won't see cahill lunging in for a 2-footed tackle on the half way line. you won't see cahill trying to dribble his way out of trouble. the thing about luiz is that he won't be taken seriously because that's who he is. the only plus point about luiz for captain is his passion for the club but that's about it. cahill is a much better choice

his crossing is not good. has gone only from bad to worse this season.real crossing is to shape the ball with pace (jarvis, albrighton etc) but as ivanovic is a right back, he can be excused for that but all ivanovic does is dump it in. his accuracy is not good. last week against norwich was the first good cross by ivan in ages. i have watched him closely since he became a right back. his crossing and his decision-making to cross were both dreadful but have been markedly improved in the last 2 seasons. still he's no Belletti or Fereira. those 2 were excellent crossers during their time

we dont really play wingers. that's why we don't rely on crosses and also no Drogba anymore. the width is provided by the full-backs Cole is really our only good crosser. consistently pings good crosses into the area. ivanovic can't cross to save his life. admittedly, that was a good cross to torres against norwich but that was a moving ball passed by mata. his crossing from stationary balls is woeful.

is there evidence that he is professional? there is more evidence pointing to the fact that he is the joker in the team. you can't accuse us of assuming things when really, it's there for everyone to see. David Luiz is the joker in the team. sure, he maybe professional at times but i wouldn't want a person like luiz leading the team out. as jason already mentioned he is representing the team on and off the pitch and someone calm/mature is a better way to go also, the captain needs to deal with the ref right? and luiz is not exactly fluent in english. that's another con of having luiz as captain.

he himself said it. "I'm an extrovert, a joker, and I didn't want to change my character when I moved to England. Yes, it was hard, but I wanted to show that Brazilians are happy people, and this is me." again, when you think of a captain's role in football, u need a cool head who keeps things professional. that way gary cahill is a better choice anyday. i can see the case made for luiz as he is popular, positive etc but i don't agree that he should become captain because he is not exactly calm and professional on or off the pitch. there are many occassions when he tries to play his way out of trouble or makes a rash challenge ( against newcastle, and against Stoke (Walters))

still no evidence on or off the pitch that he is captain material. he is the joker in the team. not the hard hitting professional leader we have now. but he does have his moments. in the CL Final, Mata later admitted that he had lost hope after his early penalty miss and it was David Luiz who had helped him/cheered him up during the shootout. he is a great guy. really positive but i would draw a line between positive and professional

doesn't really stick out as a leader. the captain should be level headed . he has to deal with the referee on behalf of the team. i don't think the ref will see david's sense of humor

too eccentric

umm. hang on. i am changing my team again

still i'd rather take my chances with suarez at home to reading than tevez away at west brom. i am gonna get tevez in for next week