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Indeed. Under Mourinho 2-0 v Arsenal (1) 2-2 v Newcastle *1 (1) Under Hiddink 3-3 v Everton *1 (1) 1-1 v Man United *1 (1) 2-1 v Southampton *2 (1) 2-2 v West Ham *1 (1) 4-1 v Bournemouth (1) 2-2 v Spurs *1 (1) * points won - (goals scored)

Yeah. Can't remember the number of times I've complained (and have seen others do the same) United getting late jammy winners under Fergie. It's annoying to watch but one can't fault them for giving up. It always played on oppositions' minds in every game.

Couldn't agree more with that and did a little bit of searching and compared the number of goals scored + points won after the 80th minute last and this season 2015/16 - Scored 8 goals, 6 of them helped to gain 7 points 2016/17 - Scored 5 goals, with 4 having helped to win 6 points (and we're only 4 games in!)

But it's the FA we are talking about here. They will find any stupid excuse to ban (or not to ban) players.

He did? Couldn't remember that.

FUCK OFF KANTE!

It was Matic. Costa assisted the second, Willian's goal.

Don't think my heart can handle that. Already took a battering today.

Should have put a tenner on you replying to that.

He really should avoid shooting at goal.

Burnley?

Not looking forward to the next 2 league games at all.

You just ruined the sarcasm.

It's Lollichon's fault though.

Disagree about him not taking defenders on. He bottled that one-on-one but on the other hand, he saved our ass (IIRC) by committing a tactical foul when Swansea countered and could have been free on goal.

Think that couldn't be more obvious in the last 10-15 minutes or so. Everyone's first option to pass to was Hazard. Honestly, based on what we have seen so far, if we don't have Costa, Hazard and Kante, we are going to be so screwed!

Yes, that's a foul but the situation could have been so easily avoid had Cahill just passed the ball. The situation happened because he fucked up with the pass. Maybe he should have apologized rather than blaming someone else!

Don't know if I should be relief or scared that Luiz is around.

4 goals in 4 games. Good start to the season. But on the flip side, he already has 3 yellow cards and we're only 4 games into the season!

Bottled that one-on-one...

Some thoughts... 1. Why do we always seem to turn matches into a war, even when there's no rivalry involved? When you're away from home, you're supposed to silent the home fans, not rile them up and in turn, motivate their side! 2. Cannot trust this defence at all. Conte can work on them for ages but there's always going to be a mistake in them. Never mind we left ourselves so open for their first goal, the second was just diabolical. Why the hell did Cahill even attempt to control the ball knowing well there's a Swansea player close by? Complacency and utter stupidity. At this point, I'm not even sure if I should be happy or banging my head onto the wall because we have Luiz. 3. We dominate a lot of matches. Score one goal. Can't kill team off. Make mistake(s). End up dropping points. Rinse and repeat. 4. Does Conte actually trust the players? Again, he waited till the final 10-15 minutes to make changes. Does he expect them to work miracles every single time?! And that Batshuayi sub 2-3 minutes from time was just taking the piss really. 5. Here's a fun fact - in 6 PL visits to Swansea, we have won just twice and guess who's the manager for both of those matches...

Chelsea vs Liverpool PRE-MATCH DISCUSSION AND LIVE CHAT 2016/17 Premier League Match 5 16th September, Friday, 2016 Stamford Bridge 20:00 Kick Off (UK time)

Chelsea 1-2 Liverpool POST-MATCH DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS 2016/17 Premier League Match 5 16th September, Friday, 2016 Stamford Bridge 20:00 Kick Off (UK time)

But it won't see them succeed at the highest level, where United want to be. Mourinho's overall approach is still the same. He's almost becoming like Wenger really. Too stubborn and too unwilling to adapt and change their approach.