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Ok then fair enough. So i guess we will have to go back 10, 20 years, to see all the infamous UCL matches that Madrid has won...... Go back to all those trophies Madrid won and see how much thievery, highway robery, and all that you call it, Madrid did. And with 2009, i agree it was a robery, but there has been far worse robery then that. But you probably don't know about it, cause it does not involve Chelsea.....One that was involved Chelsea as of late was in 2010 when Mourinho Inter rob Chelsea....

Well it depends what kinda style you like. For example some people prefer the Italian league then PL or la Liga because that's the style they like.

No, it's just weird! Cause I am talking about la Liga, an el clasico and you come and mention something about what happen in a CL match. Two different things. If we want to talk about CL we talked about it in their respective place. Now I agree with "A cheetah never changes" cause Madrid never changes! And again, the term "majority" does not refer to everybody. You don't have to argue that case. You watch la liga and that's good. But then I am amazed that if you watched la Liga you don't see all the diving and cheating that comes from a club like Madrid when they play against other teams.....

The word most of you curtails to a majority not everybody. So if you are not one of them then great. But I am right that most posters here hardly watch la liga because it's a "2 team league" as most put it..... And last your experience about Barca comes with CL. CL and la liga are two different things. Don't go mixing the two things.

Here have this link from Wigan88:

How much disparity there is between Real, Barcelona and the rest of the league in term of money received from TV! Then they complaint when a small team sits back and defend! You expect a team that was assemble with measly 10 mill to come and challenge your 200+ plus million team? ha they are having a laugh. It is why I have come to admired the PL a lot. And yes I am new supporter to the PL and Chelsea. I only came to knew Chelsea because of Roman and Mourinho. I was like fuck yeah when they eliminated Barcelona in the first year of Mourinho. I think after that is when I started liking them. I liked them even more when they lost the CL final against United. Any glory hunter fan would have jumped team by then, but I saw a great spirit from this team, especially from John Terry which brought tears to my eyes, and from then on this is the team I support from England.

But yeah please don't come and tell me why I am not suppose to like this team because they are fakers, actors, ref helped, etc, when Madrid is 10 times worse then that. Not that I am a fan of Barcelona, cause I am not, but when you are talking about el clasico of Barcelona vs Madrid....Madrid is the most pathetic of them both, and Madrid does not deserve no backing. Especially no help from no dam ref! Unless you are a self proclaimend Madrid fan, at which case that's different and I don't like you! And when you take the clasico out and talked about both team in general against other teams from the league (something most of you don't care, cause all you care about is el clasico, Barcelona and Real Madrid), then there is further fuel to add towards my dislike with Madrid and this time with Barcelona! When you look at stat like this, you can't help but be dumb fucked at how these two have ruin the spanish league: How the hell is A. Madrid and other teams going to compete with these two, when they control the majority of the market? It's a disgrace what these two have done to Spanish league!

And our best hope is not to see Madrid win anything! I guess you don't understand the concept of true rivalry. Oh boy I am sure the Arsenal fans where singing when Chelsea did not win no league...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk0PSIG57Z8

Freaking stupid analogy! So I am suppose to feel happy if Madrid beat Barcelona in el Clasico? Bullshit! It's like when this weekend some people where cheering Man City to win over Spurs...... Or Liverpool fans cheering their rival to beat United.....

BTW since it noticed you just been watching la liga these past few years, then I am sure you must have caught this: Dive +2 Foul +2 Foul + 1000000 And can quote you many games where this pathetic Madrid had to had the help of the ref. to help them win matches!

What? It's not that I like them. It's only in the clasico when i prefer one over the other. It's that not so hard to understand???? And so just because you witness that in the past few years, is that suppose to make Madrid saints from the last 20 years? Ridicules!

lol I like Atletico Madrid. But we sucking at the moment, and ain't the near lvl to challenge Real Madrid. So do I take Barcelona over Real Madrid when they play against each other? All the time. But that's cause I like to see Madrid loose. P.S. The coach that started Spain clicking was one of the greatest manager in our team of A. Madrid. Guess who?

With a passion! This does not come just from the last few years, which is what most of you know. Most of you watch now just because of Mourinho, which is understandable. Or Because of Chelsea in the CL. But this unlikeness goes way back. And I agree with the Barcelona. But then again, any one who pounds Madrid is alright in my book! P.S. It kinda sucks cause I like Mourinho....but Mourinho is not going to change in one or two years, what I had to endure for nearly 3 decades!

Do you just watch el clasico? Or all the matches they play? Barcelona vs the whole league? And Madrid vs the whole league?

Oh if you dislike Barcelona because of that fair enough. But don't come and tell me that Barcelona gets more preferences from the ref. as Real has in the past cause you are wrong! Real deserves all this shit. They deserve the total domination from Barcelona. They had it coming!

Another source that talked about the failed bid: Chelsea fail with £29m bid for Sao Paulo starlet http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/1489/73/chelsea-fail-%C2%A329m-bid-sao-paulo-starlet

And this only come from watching a few matches???? Dude Real Madrid is disgusting in how much the ref have helped them over the years, is sickening!

It used to be the opposite. Madrid owned Barcelona. But then everything has changed the last decade Like SAF did with United to Liverpool! My how times change!

What the hell you are talking about??? All the decision go Barcelona way??? Excuse me, if there is one team that has the ref in their pocket is pathetic Madrid!!!!! Gosh I can't believe someone is so blind to say that. You have to not watch La liga for the past few years to make such a remark like that!

We got Kalou, and Malouda. Let's get rid of them before we think of saying KDB should be in our team. Thus, the loan till the rest of the season makes sense, as Kalou might be out by then.

He should stay there for a year, like Josh should stay for a year. Of course unless, they explode like Sturridge, but Sturridge was a bit older then they are. The best decision Bruma and Courtois have been doing is stay at their clubs for 2 years. 2 years give you a good time to grow, and you are settle at one place instead of going from here and there. Thus after 2 seasons, the clubs will have something better to evaluate. Weather for Chelsea to integrate the youth to the first team or sell him to the current team.

I feel you. Why do you think I dislike Madrid so much? Mourinho wanted to go there to prove himself a point that he can managed the big seat at Real Madrid. And in my humble opinion, he did not had to go there. We already knew he was a great coach. What he had achieved with Porto, Chelsea, and Inter was extradornary. He had nothing to prove, but his ambition took him there. But as always with some people their downfall is their over ambition. Mourinho can return to the Premier, but this time in Madrid will put a dent in him. It is why SAF told Mourinho that he was managing a circus, and he was right.

Well I do. Actually in my country La liga was more popular for years. EPL was hardly ever heard of. Just like the last decade when EPL has expoded more. I think it has to do with more Latino players playing there...... Mourinho was destined for this to happen, all this problem with the media and his players. No matter if he wins la liga, because in Madrid they don't take too kindly to his style. I think you would understand if you followed Spanish football for a long time. Now ask yourself, if Madrid don't like his style why they hire him? Because Madrid wants to get "Galacticos" the best of the best just to have a name that they own the best. Even if it doens't fit their philosophy.....

Your right. Ramos is a hot head. Like Guti was. Not sure if you knew but Guti and Pellegrini had a fight in the past. But Casillas.....very tough thing my friend. If he turns against you, you are dead man. It's like saying Terry turning against you years ago. Now it's different cause he is old and his place might not be as secure, but say a Terry at 26 years old. They hold too much weight in the team.

Again you are talking about Madrid, where they don't pride themselves in the win Mourinho had against Barcelona. They don't deem that football "good enough" Look at how they treated Capello when he won them the league? Sorry but what Mourinho has done in the past does not stack up to what these Pathetic Madrid think of themselves. Even Hiddink was not well taken when he was in charge of Madrid.